<<@CrossExamined
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<<@ajgibson1307
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Amen and God bless
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<<@spankyblu
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I would really like a response to this I understand if you can't because you got tons of comments but the problem with argument that everything created has to have a creator I've seen online and I've also actually hurting person, is that they actually use that argument against you because they believe that if you're right God would have been created as well. I think you have to believe in God in order to accept the argument that he wasn't created. So how do you get around that
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<<@saintmichael9736
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GOD CREATED ALL THINGS AND GOD BE THE GLORY FOREVER AND EVER
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<<@saintmichael9736
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PEOPLE NEED THE FOUNDATION OF JESUS CHRIST AND JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY ONE IN HISTORY THAT WE KNEW WHO HE WAS BEFORE HE CAME EXCEPT MOSES AND NOAH
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<<@the-logic-of-the-rainbow
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Why can't existence necessitate itself? Why can't some circular modes of logic support and necessitate themselves, like God! have videos which show (My video called "Mathematical metaphysics") existence can necessarily support itself by itself. It's quite technical though and quite complex, its at a post-graduate reading level, and is still in its draft mode, so it might be difficult to understand.
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<<@colinblackie9654
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Belief in god comes down to one’s subjective view of the evidence provided
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<<@steveprofiler
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Maby it is immoral to live if everyone is a liability to eachother.
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<<@MR-yx8hj
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I’m more of a deist than anything. 🤷♂️
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<<@TheTruthKiwi
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Argument from ignorance and incredulity. "I don't know how the universe and life could originate naturally therefore gods". Fallacy 101
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<<@victory9285
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I've heard a good counter arguement to the fine tuning of the universe from Neil de Grasse Tyson.
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<<@steveprofiler
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Would it be better to press a RED button to blow the whole world so no life can suffer anymore?
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<<@ByGraceThroughFaith777
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That if a simple failure of one mitochondrial component causes the cell to die, how many cells died in pursue of uptimal function while sustaining survivability long enough and close enough to each other for evolution to figure it out? I say none, cuz God made them all at once, and they worked from the start. HOW?don't ask me that 😆
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<<@GrrStreams
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This is laughable. Utterly laughable.
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<<@Thejjay005
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Could someone please explain why he adopts the premise that it could not have been out of physical necessity? Because he doesn’t explain and it reminds me of how atheists say things like “every natural thing has a natural cause” without explaining why.
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<<@The-Wretched-Spawn
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Just a few of the Messianic prophecies fulfilled in Christ... ⬇️ Genesis 3:15 ~ "Born of the seed of a woman". ~ Galatians 4:4....... Genesis 12:2-3 ~ "Born of the seed of Abraham". ~ Matthew 1:1....... Genesis 17:19 ~ "Born of the seed of Isaac". ~ Matthew 1:2...... Numbers 24:17 ~ "Born of the seed of Jacob". ~ Matthew 1:2....... Genesis 49:10 ~ "Descended from the tribe of Judah". ~ Luke 3:33....... Isaiah 9:7 ~ "Heir to the throne of David" ~ Luke 1:32-33....... Daniel 9:25 ~ "Time for Jesus' birth". ~ Luke 2:1-2....... Isaiah 7:14 ~ "Born of a virgin". ~ Luke 1:26-27, 30-31 Micah 5:2 ~ "Born in Bethlehem". ~ Luke 2:4-7 Jeremiah 31:15 ~ "Slaughter of the innocents". ~ Matthew 2:16-18 Hosea 11:1 ~ "Flight to Egypt". ~ Matthew 2:14-15 Isaiah 40:3-5, Malachi 3:1 ~ "Proceeded by forerunner". ~ Luke 7:24,27 Psalm 2:7 ~ "Declared the Son of God". ~ Matthew 3:16-17 Isaiah 9:1-2 ~ "Galilean ministry". Matthew ~ 4:13-17 Deuteronomy 18:15 ~ "The prophet to come". ~ Acts 3:30, 22 Isaiah 61:1-2 ~ "Came to heal the brokenhearted". ~ Luke 4:18-19 Isaiah 53:3 ~ "Rejected by his own people" (the Jews). ~ John 1:11 Psalm 110:4 ~ "A priest after the order of Melchizedek". ~ Hebrews 5:5-6 Zechariah 9:9 ~ "Triumphal entry" ~ Mark 11:7, 9, 11 Psalm 41:9 ~ "Betrayed by a friend". ~ Luke 22:47-48 Zechariah 11:12-13 ~ "sold for thirty pieces of silver". ~ Matthew 26:15; 27:5-7 Psalm 35:11 ~ "Accused by false witness". ~ Mark 14:57-58 Isaiah 53:7 ~ "Silent to accusations". ~ Mark 15:4-5 Isaiah 50:6 ~ "Spat upon and smitten". ~ Matthew 26:67 Psalm 35:19 ~ "Hated without reason". ~ John 15:24-25 Isaiah 53:5 ~ "Vicarious sacrifice". ~ Romans 5:6, 8 Isaiah 53:12 ~ "Crucified with transgressors". ~ Mark 15:27-28 Zechariah 12:10 ~ "Body pierced". ~ John 20:27 Psalm 22:7-8 ~ "Scorned and mocked" ~ Luke 23:35-36 Psalm 69:21 ~ "Given vinegar and Gall". ~ Matthew 27:34 Psalm 109:4 ~ "Prayer for his enemies". ~ Luke 23:34 Psalm 22:18 ~ "Soldiers gambled for his coat". ~ Matthew 27:35 Psalm 34:20 ~ "No bones broken". ~ John 19:32-33, 36 Zechariah 12:10 ~ "Side pierced". ~ John 19:34 Isaiah 53:9 ~ "Buried with the rich". ~ Matthew 27:57-60 Psalm 16:10; 49:15 ~ "Would rise from the dead". ~ Mark 16:6-7 Psalm 68:18 ~ "Would ascend to Gods right hand". ~ Mark 16:19 All praise, honour and glory belongs to Jesus Christ, the King of kings and Lord of lords.
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<<@iansarmiento5991
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Plato's cosmic world soul did it. The goddess Hecate Not the biblical god because Yahweh is weak and powerless during the pandemic. And, the fint tuning argument requires an old universe. Read more.
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<<@4504595
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This is the most touted BAD argument for the existence of God... and the "problem of evil" is the worst (and most touted) argument against the existence of God.
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<<@singwithpowerinfo5815
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This is quite possibly the second worst argument I’ve heard in support of a god. The moral argument is worse. They both fall on several points each. Do some sincere research and find out the counter arguments from the best in their field, not from a Christian who doesn’t address several issues within his straw-man argument.
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<<@praveenliverpool
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A fool says in his heart that there is no God
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<<@amac9044
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This argument is so utterly flawed: 1) How does he demonstrate that these are the only 3 possible explanations to account for the seeming "fine tuning" we see in the universe? 2) How does he rule out chance and physical necessity? He never provides reasons to eliminate them. He just says they aren't it... 3) How can WLC assert that life or the universe couldn't exist at all if any of the constants were altered? What are his scientific qualifications? Because every scientist I've heard has said that life and universe only couldn't exist IN IT'S CURRENT FORM were these constants altered... Ultimately this is entirely an argument from ignorance/incredulity (i.e. "I can think of no other way all of this could have happened, therefore god"). This is a logical fallacy.
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<<@ltlsWhatltIs
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The universe not having a creator would be like magic being performed without the magician.
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<<@Glorious716
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✝️🙏🏽❤️
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<<@NewCreationInChrist896
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The world-society is a cult the Matrix, must be Born Again. John 3:3
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<<@simplyseculardave
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No, it doesn't. Complexity is not an indicator of an intelligent design, simplicity is. You can't argue that the structure of our universe is 'special' if it is literally the only instantiation of a universe which exists, that we can observe. It is a 1 of 1 chance. But if you are going to "reason" this was driving forward along you bias to arrive at the desired conclusion, you would get more view and likes if you attributed the Universe to cats. "It sure seems to point to... [insert bias here]"
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<<@sidwhiting665
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The fine-tuning argument is very persuasive to me. Is it fool-proof? No, but then again nothing is. Any courtroom trial lawyer will tell you that evidence doesn't have to leave no shred of any doubt whatsoever. Rather, good evidence supports what we observe and is logically consistent. Get enough evidence, and one can say, "This is the most likely explanation for what happened." If someone is going to say there is no God/god/the gods, then one has to provide a reasonable alternate theory along with their evidence. 1) The multiverse? We have no observed evidence for that. At best, we have theoretical math calculations, but these offer nothing other than "what ifs?". 2) Chance? Even with trillions upon trillions of chances, the math on us being here today are infinitesimal. So small as to take a lot of "faith" to believe that "it just all sorta worked out this way. To date, we have never observed life come from non-life. Abiogenesis has been posited, but never observed. Thus, it remains not even a theory that we can test. To date, there is no explanation for the irreducible complexity of biological systems. An eye is useless by itself. It must connect to a developed central nervous system, which in turn must be connected to a brain capable of processing the input signal in a coherent manner and then reacting in a way that is advantageous to the organism. All of these must be present to result in offspring inheriting that trait. An eye by itself taking in sunlight does nothing. It's like a camera lens with an open aperture, but no shutter, no film, and no one composing the picture. And yet, some people will claim that all these systems just sort of worked themselves out over billions of years and ta da....here we are today as amazingly complex organisms. The bottom line for me is Occam's Razor. What is the simplest explanation for fine tuning, irreducible complexity, and the existence of sentient life? It was designed. Ergo, there is a designer. We can discuss WHAT FORM that designer might be, but to say this all "just happened" is, to me, a bigger leap of faith than the obvious conclusion that someone or something greater than us put all of this together: the uncaused Cause, the Prime Mover.
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<<@briendoyle4680
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Hahaha... EXCEPT that nothing is 'fine-tuned'! Our Universe is chaotic, and sometimes barely balanced enough.... You all still need to prove your gods... hahaha
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<<@BlueRainMusic1
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If the Christian god is omnipotent then nothing needs to be fined tuned. Fine tuning assumes certain limitations. The Christian god has none. If this deity wanted, humans could live on the surface of the sun. Nothing is impossible, not even resurrecting people back from the dead, making donkeys speak, humans that can fly etc. This argument makes no sense giving the attributions of the Christian god.
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<<@Dhorpatan
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Why do people call it OUR Universe. That is weird.
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<<@Foxygrandpa2131
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I would like a follow up video to more thoroughly exclude chance and necessity if you don’t mind.
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<<@Whatsisface4
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The support for premise 2 is an argument from personal incredulity. "It seems crazy to think that these numbers … are somehow necessary..." Is that what this argument relies on? It seems crazy? The effects of relativity seem crazy on the face it but have been proven true. Btw the universe isn't fine tuned for life, as our immediate environment tries to and succeeds at killing us in great numbers what with disease and natural disaster. As for a cumulative case for God, the more arguments there are that don't actually prove God in itself can be used as an argument against God.
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<<@NewCreationInChrist896
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Some believe in Jesus and The Big Bang Theory which is a contradiction. Genesis 1:1-3 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcomea it.
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<<@NewCreationInChrist896
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💫😇🌍 Seek and worship the Creator not the creation. John 3:16-21 👑💝
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<<@unc1589
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The one that gets me is the fine tuning of the earths vantage point of the sun and the moon and how they are both basically the same size in the sky from our viewpoint. The moon is 238,900 miles away. The sun is 94.033 million miles away but to our eyes they are just about the same size when we look up. Talk about fine tuning my goodness! It just supports the notion that our solar system is pretty much all about us! So if the skeptical question is “why would God create all this expanse in space if there was only life on earth?” The answer is “I dunno! I guess He just felt like it” (Sorry empirical evidence seekers). The Bible covers itself by starting… “ The secret things belong to God the things that are revealed belong to man!” I can live with that no problem. I serve a jaw dropping God!
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<<@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe
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There are so many it's hard to count how many atheists increase the views of this in so many other Christian videos. We thank them for that. They're never as smart as they think they are. They have no idea that we can see through their schoolgirl crush on Christians. They define themselves by what they deny. Their arguments are emotional not based in science or logic. WE LOVE YOU ATHEISTS!!!
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<<@grayintheuk8021
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The fine tuning argument like all the other is a big old heap of 'made up, wishful thinking'. It explains nothing. Zero good evidenced for any deity.
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<<@matthewpohlman
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No such thing as outer space.
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<<@regstoy
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So, the christian god is so powerful, that it could design a universe within such precise parameters, but forgot to give humans a gene, which would prevent childhood cancers, stop us getting old, make it so we don't suffer from genetic diseases. Thing is, life evolved because of the conditions, the conditions weren't set in place to specifically allow life. I particularly love, how god botherers say that if the earth was just x amount of distance further from our sun, life would not have happened, completely untrue, a different life would have evolved.
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<<@tTtt-ho3tq
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"Those numbers (basic cosmic constants) which describe the initial conditions of the Big Bang ... " He accepts the Big Bang at least. That means he accepts the current physics. And that means the universe is 13.8 billion years old ... not 6,000 years. Or no 6 day creation in the Bible. So what do you do when science contradicts the Bible or our interpretations of his words in the Bible (or Allah's word in the Quran)? He's accepted science ... just like Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Newton and others. They followed the evidence in the nature. What about Evolution by natural selection, though. Copernicus 2.0
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<<@MrFossil367ab45gfyth
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The Fine-Tuning Argument is my personal favorite argument for God. Here are some explanations for the apparent "fine-tuning" of the universe: 1. Chance 2. Natural processes "Anthropic Principle" 3. Multiverse 4. Intelligent Design "God" "In my opinion, 1-3 don't debunk 4" But there is a large flaw to the Fine-Tuning Argument. Constants are constants. This means that they are and were constant, meaning unchanging. So how can we test if any of these constants were different at one time? Or if any of them were off, that life wouldn't exist or be different. Or even bigger, nothing would exist at all?
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<<@akoskormendi9711
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The fine tuning argument is a failure at arguing, as it has the hidden assumption of the *constants* of physics being *variable* which is just unfounded. It's actually amazing how easy it is to debunk this argument, and no Christian so far have answered my objection...
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<<@asyougo
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Thank you! Why does this argument for a powerful, intelligent, personal infinite being connect to the Christian theology?
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<<@ΓραικοςΕλληνας
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Actually natural theology does not prove anything to an atheist . It is a non correct way to show there is a God. Because muslim can use that also but the issue is to show who is the reall Absolute God ,and that is not from natural theology seen.
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<<@hiddenrambo328
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Supernatural things require a supernatural source. Super = Above or Beyond. Surgery is Beyond nature. Surgery comes from the Human Mind. Human mind is supernatural. Human mind requires a supernatural source. = A God like entity is required. (Mind) The universe is space, matter and time. The universe started. Everything that starts comes from something that is greater than itself. Space, Matter and time must come from something Space less, timeless and Immaterial. = A God like entity is required. (Body) To have objective Morales requires an objective standard of good unchanging to measure against cannot be based on subjective things like people. Objective Morales exist. = A God like entity is required. (Spirit) These natural observations match the Christian claim of the Bible that God is three in one like above is 3 in this 1 Universe, that we are made in the image of God with Mind, Body and Spirit and that nature - space, matter and time testify to us that there is a creator. Just ask yourself what was first everything we know has started, something had to already exist to start everything what do you think that first thing is a particle, energy, a wobble gobble doesn't matter if it's the first cause that made everything else start meaning it's the source for everything than that thing whatever it is, is called God which is a title for the first being. Being because it started it always was then it started and if it's first that means it has to choose to start to go from inactive to active making it a being. Making it the supreme being because it's the cause for creation making it the creator. The creator is the source of power and is outside space matter and time as that started, so the being has no restrictions making it Omnipotent. It's the source so everything comes from The creator the first supreme being meaning it makes up everything and as such is everywhere and to maintain order and continued existence (laws) it must know where everything is making it Omnipresent and Omniscient. All we have done is used Observations and followed abductive reasoning from nature to answer what came first and you end up with: A necessary first cause, a supreme being and creator that is Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient that would be given the title of God doesn't say which God claim is true just that there is a God regardless of how we feel about it so we should probably find out who it is what it wants when it wants it and where it is and all other questions we can answer just as a matter of prudence.
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<<@philb4462
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The vast majority of the universe would cause instant death to the vast majority of life. We know of one planet where life can exist, and an awful lot of that is completely inhospitable. So is the universe *really* fine tuned? It's wrong to say that life would not exist if the constants were changed. We don't know if life could exist under changes to the constants. It's only life as we know it that couldn't exist - see physicist Sean Carol's debate with William Lane Craig on that. We don't know if these constants can be altered. So the proposal that the reason the way they are the way they are is that there is something that can alter the values. But this just takes one mystery and explains it with an even bigger mystery. Why is there a fine-tuner in the first place? How does this being change the constants? Surely something that can adjust universal constants needs a lot more explanation that the universal constants just being a certain way? I have never heard the proponents of this argument answer my question that comes from it: Who fine-tuned the fine-tuner?
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<<@coolnegative
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Mathematics (the only truly provable science), particularly statistical mathematics favors engineering over random chance as the source of our physical universe.
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<<@ancientfiction5244
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If anyone thinks the Bible is the "word of God", they need to read the below article from a critical Biblical scholar and spend some time reading the other articles on his website. "So for example, when we read carefully what Yahweh says in the book of Leviticus, namely that the Aaronids (the sons of Aaron only), are high priests contrary to the Levites, that they alone are Yahweh’s mediators and the Levites are reduced to mere ministers of the Aaronids, that only through sacrifice can one atone for sins and not confession as preached by the Levites, or more precisely the Levite’s Yahweh, etc., *it can be no coincidence that in these laws and commandments,* ***which are placed on the mouth of Yahweh,*** *that Yahweh himself is presented advocating and legitimating the very views and beliefs of the specific priestly guild writing the text, and, contrary to the views and beliefs of their rivals, the Levites and the Levite’s Yahweh!* We will examine this more closely when we get to the contradictions in these books. But in short, this was the function of ancient literature, and we are allowing these ancient texts to speak for themselves. *In this particular case, the Levites and Aaronids wrote specific texts that each advocated their religious beliefs, views, and their position as high priests* ***by writing these sentiments directly into the mouth of their god!*** But just studying the Bible alone, scientifically, affords us the occasion *to see that many of these so-called words of Yahweh are* ***actually the very words of the texts’ authors.*** When we see numerous texts employing this ancient literary technique, and moreover, ***presenting Yahweh as the spokesperson for their own views and agenda,*** *and* ***contrary*** *to Yahweh’s other words in other texts written by other authors employing the same technique,* how can one conclude otherwise. In other words, when in the composite text that we now call the Bible we find: Yahweh declaring that only Aaronids can officiate as his priests and Yahweh declaring that all Levites can officiate as high priest; Yahweh declaring that sin is atoned through confession and Yahweh declaring that sin is only expiated through the sacrificial cult, no exceptions; Yahweh declaring that he gave laws and commandments at Sinai and Yahweh declaring that he only gave the Ten Commandments at Sinai; Yahweh commanding to exterminate all the Canaanites without pity and Yahweh declaring to tolerate them and live in their midst; Yahweh declaring that the wilderness generation were disloyal and rebellious and Yahweh declaring that they were a paradigm of loyalty and faith; Yahweh declaring that he may be offered sacrifices at any altar and Yahweh declaring that there is only one altar where sacrifices are to be offered up; Yahweh declaring that the people saw him at Sinai and Yahweh declaring that they only heard his voice; Yahweh declaring that circumcision is an eternal covenant and keeping the land depends on observing this very commandment and Yahweh declaring the Mosaic laws as the covenant and keeping the land is dependent on keeping these laws; Yahweh declaring that he dwells in the midst of the people and Yahweh declaring that he only resides in heaven; Yahweh commanding Passover to be celebrated by all at Jerusalem and Yahweh commanding it to be celebrated at each person’s home; Yahweh commanding that animals for consumption must be ritually sacrificed and Yahweh commanding that they don’t have to be sacrificed ritually, etc. ***one must conclude that Yahweh is being used by these authors, each with their own contrary views and beliefs as a spokesperson for each of these authors’ agendas.*** These are all the personal, and competing, views, theological beliefs, and religious systems of our biblical authors. And this is only the tip of the iceberg." *"Studying the Bible"* - Dr Steven DiMattei *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
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<<@jeffphelps1355
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God of the gaps is not a very effective counter argument. Atheism is faith based
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<<@tedoldham7703
says :
Really? Which God does it point to?
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<<@Gamer_thoughts58
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It's harder for some to believe in God but easy for them to believe in a "higher self" or the "universe" being the creator of itself. People will make up all sorts of things in attempt to avoid acknowledging the existence of God
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