Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@mikegraphone2736 says : What motivates a Calvinist to expose their Apologetics is their inflated egos I have yet to meet a Calvinist that isn't an egomaniac and very Prideful of the fact that they believe they are one of the so called Elect.>> <<@hasanyoneseenmyark says : As a Christian who grew up with the same views on this matter as Dr. Frank, while just recently being exposed to Reformed doctrine, how do we reconcile the Arminianism view with Ephesians 1:4-5 or Acts 13:48?>> <<@kvelez says : 1:14 Choices>> <<@verraymundo2016 says : In fact ,those who finally apostasised were not,their names, written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world.God knows who are His from the very beginning.Those who turn away are the goats, not His sheep.Jesus Christ came not to seek even a single goat,but to seek the lost sheep!The sheep are considered lost sheep before they saved,so they MUST be sought out to be taken to the shephold!>> <<@v42dyk36 says : The only thing that Pull me to Calvinism until now "the Sovereignty of God can't be comprehended even the brilliant minds" if you say it's wrong then it's yours. For TULIP up lift the trust on the Sovereignty of God and his Plan of Salvation for his people.>> <<@solomonnallapu says : Thank you for sharing your views. As a Christian who believes in the doctrines of grace, I do not believe that non-Calvinistic soteriology will lead to hell. However, my major issue with non-Calvinists is that they are gradually introducing liberal, open theology, and lgbtq+ views into the church. Yes, there are moral failings among Calvinistic preachers, but congregations and preachers (with the exception of a few) with non-Calvinistic soteriology appear to be very liberal in their thinking. Calvinistic preachers, on the other hand, are excellent Bible expositors.>> <<@kentheengineer592 says : Oh they were so close to thinking about the problems of the relation of iniquity and lucifer 2:17>> <<@theidolbabblerthedailydose33 says : If Sproul and Gerstner were describing “Allah,” as Turek says, then why would anyone think that they were actually Christians?>> <<@id744 says : This is what motivates them...Romans 10:14 How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?>> <<@greglp776 says : Why are people fleeing churches in droves and why is the % of those that believe in the Bible as the word of God declining precipitously ? Bad theology...human theology....God has become simply a deity that worships man's autonomous free will....a will unaffected by sin? NO.....That is what Total depravity means...the entire being of man is affected by sin...the effect is total....a new birth means.....a work other than yourself...how much effort did you put into your physical birth? Why did God choose the word Elect....means to choose....a bride is chosen....Acts 13:48 " And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.">> <<@robrepublic1 says : To counter charges of how Calvinism strikes at the very heart of the Great Commission they like to use examples of great Calvinist soul winners from the past. But the problem is #1 these evangelists were all misrepresenting God and preaching a false gospel and #2 they did it not because of their heretical systematic but in spite of the it. They somehow managed to rise above and overcome the TULIP.>> <<@7319Drummer says : Calvinism is the theology and doctrine of John Calvin, not of the Bible. Calvinist greatly Misunderstand the definition of the word Sovereignty. The Biblical and correct definition of Sovereignty is that God is the ultimate Supreme uncreated Being who answers to no other being outside himself for permission. The Calvinist definition of Sovereignty is that God ordains every facet of our lives,what we say, wear and eat. There’s far, far too much to go into, but Calvinism is false man made doctrine.>> <<@CoreyLClark says : Atheist: If God real, why bad thing happen? Calvinist: Yes>> <<@connorpoe says : man has the free will to sin however he likes, but only the Holy Spirit through election does he have the ability to do "choose" God (and good). Whatever God does do is good. Who is the clay to question the potter?>> <<@stevenmclain2825 says : What motivates Arminians to publish pointless conversations in an echo chamber to fight a strawman, ultimately convincing no one? Leighton got mopped by James white in a debate. Maybe Frank would like a turn?>> <<@nobody1042 says : You took the verse of context that "God gives you the desires of your heart." The verse is, "Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give you the desires of your heart" (Ps. 37:4). Satan was not delighting himself in the Lord. Satan was able to choose sin just as Adam was able to choose sin since both at one time were sinless. We, on the other hand, are conceived in sin. We are already sinners and do not need to choose to sin.>> <<@atheistcomments says : Frank understands Yahweh only exists as an imaginary character. Apologetics is all about deception. You exposed this by directly talking about tactics and how to use them.>> <<@cjyoung4493 says : Uses rc sproul as title cover yet rc would have taken frank to lunch on this subject. Get a Calvinist who knows their stuff like MacArthur, Durbin, white, on…. I think everyone would benefit. Not to mention white already toasted flowers in this debate>> <<@AmyB1961 says : Calvinism is satanic at its core. These men who teach it do not even know what "salvation" is. Most preachers don't! If they did, there would be no denominations, nor any disputes as to how to get saved, and how to proceed once saved. All of the men who lead people astray from sound biblical doctrine will answer directly to God for their insolence.>> <<@More15er says : I wonder why frank doesn’t ask Jeff Durbin, James White, John McArthur, or even Corey on his channel to chat.>> <<@angelbrother1238 says : I’m a catholic but if I ever converted to Protestantism I would be a Wesleyan Arminian Methodist as I agree with a lot of their views and this dude is pretty cool As well .>> <<@thomasb4467 says : Before God created the universe he already knew who would accept salvation and who would reject it. Because he has prescience knowledge doesn’t mean he forced anyone to accept or reject salvation. God is not willing any should perish and that is why he gave us his Son, but he won’t force you to believe in Jesus Christ.>> <<@RobertEMason says : "If God does it all why are we even here?" It is because this isn't about you or me, it's about God, His plan, His will, His creation to do with as He sovereignly desires. “for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.” ‭‭Philippians‬ ‭2‬:‭13‬ ‭>> <<@danielomitted1867 says : What even is the point of this video? Leighton can't go three sentences without making some misrepresentation of Calvinism and Frank is completely ignorant of it. Maybe you should have brought a Calvinist who does apologetics to answer this question. Maybe Jeff Durbin or James White?>> <<@Philx.v says : This is false, Evangelism explosion was invented by Dr James Kennedy (a calvinist). If you dont believe God is sovereign in salvation you are condemning children, and people who does not understand the concept of choosing Jesus. The doctrines of grace are very clear in scripture, God has to elect people to save otherwise nobody will choose him on their own, and If you think God is waiting in heaven to see who is going to choose Him, in order to activate the holy spirit, you need to read the new testament again, those appointed to believe like Lydia in the book of acts will come to grace.>> <<@MERV_ says : I find this a strong case for Calvinism -Romans 9: 19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? 22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?>> <<@petrumiscoi7395 says : An Arminian and a Molinist...what good could come of it?:)) They caricatured the Calvinist position either unknowingly or on purpose, which would be even worse. And the Molinist and the Arminian will build their theology around man and his freedom, not around God and His glory.>> <<@SamuraiKamenX says : Free will motivated Lucifer>> <<@toughbiblepassages says : 2:28 Frank with all due respect, you are shoving words into RC Sproul’s mouth and misrepresenting his view on this issue. It is a fact that RC Sproul was an Infralapsarian, meaning he believed that Adam used his freewill to do evil but Sproul admittedly couldn’t explain how that freewill was capable of evil so he left it at saying there must be other elements at play that we don’t understand, aka mystery. There are some other Calvinists (called Supralapsarians) who say God gave Adam that evil desire and that explains how Adam was capable of evil but now the issue is how could God be just? And those Calvinists would say “God certainly is just but there must be more elements at play we don’t understand so it’s a mystery at this point.” So you see, it just depends on where you want to place the mystery.. RC Sproul is on record saying that he would rather question the nature of freewill rather than to question Gods justice, and Sproul was a self declared Infralapsarian (not a supralapsarian). This is a matter of public record on Ligonier’s archives during a QnA session at one of there conferences. (I can’t remember which one but I’ll try to find it if anyone cares to hear it.) Please don’t slander Sproul’s memory like you are or imply that Sproul ever believed that God was the author of sin (may it never be!)>> <<@dot1258 says : We love God so much and have such a great passion for His grace and power that we want to tell all the world that if they're lucky enough to be predestined by God, they too can believe in Him. Fingers crossed! My question is why do have to explain how God works sovereignly AND still allows the operation of free will at the same time? For that matter, CAN we? Isn't it possible that this mystery is simply not fathomable or definable by finite man and maybe, just maybe, we are perverting truth by trying to define it? Let God be God and let us simply believe that He is mighty to save to the utmost.>> <<@newcreationinchrist1423 says : Never agreed with Calvinism. It's not that I think they're wrong on everything but I don't think they have the final gospel truth.>> <<@agenttex5748 says : We evangelize because its a command from Christ. Of course God can and will do whatever he pleases and nothing can thwart His will. He does not need us. Yet He CHOOSES to use men to bring others to saving faith through evangelism and ministry. In other words, the secondary cause of evangelism and apologetics is just as real and necessary as the primary cause of regeneration, which makes evangelism effective in the first place. Now a question for Frank and Leighton. When YOU evangelise and the person you spoke to DOES NOT come to Christ, do you consider that a failure? If God is not the primary cause of that person coming to faith, then how are YOU not responsible for not being persuasive enough? Or compassionate enough? How can you say definitively that that person would not have believed if YOU had responded differently to their objection or had ministered more effectively? It is precisely this conundrum that I believe has motivated so many non-reformed churches to try and make the Church more worldly and tolerant of sin, so as to make the Church more appealing to those who would otherwise reject Christ. Meanwhile, those of us who DO believe the teaching of scripture regarding the state of man in his spiritual deadness know that it is always a miracle of God that a person comes to faith in Christ. That it is always because of His intention and successful intervention in that person's heart which NECESSARILY results in their salvation. Hence we do not feel any urgency to sacrifice holiness (which would be a sin btw) in order to make the Gospel more appealing. It is ALWAYS unappealing apart from the salvific grace of God in regeneration.>> <<@cccccleety says : When man makes words up. It’s time flowers brings on a respected calvinist on his channel. just do what the Bible says. Both the calvinist and Armenian do this, they both preach and go to the street corner and tell there neighbors about the good news. They both love people. I feel all the videos are just each side “misrepresenting” the other sides position according to those on the other side, which makes no progress bc none can say hey that’s a fair assessment. I’m only here bc a friend sent me this, I don’t know a lot about the Armenian side. Idk who is one really, the main pastors beside my home church that I watch I said to be Calvinist per the American gospel movie on Calvinism>> <<@fredsackey906 says : I feel there is a slight misunderstanding of what free will is, man certainly has free will, but this free will is in the context of his fallen nature. Lions eat meat, but CAN a lion eat grass, (with regards to ability), YES. But does it eat grass? Absolutely not. do we know how free will works pre-fall? I reckon we don't, certainly with respect to the full scope of it. But we know 1 thing, comparing Adam & Lucifer, both clearly had the ability to choose good or evil. And that choice was not made under the fallen human condition. Where did Lucifer's have desire come from?? Bible does not say, and Frank you've indicated several times that evil is defined on the back of good, anything that deviates from the perfect nature of God is evil. So in essence, it is like asking "Where did evil come from?" No one can answer that. Somebody correct me, where is the contradiction?? But man in this fallen nature has absolutely no proclivity or inclination to the things of God, neither does he possess any ability to do good in and of himself. The question concerning Lucifer is something we cannot possibly know from this side of eternity, so Gerstner answered correctly, anything we say concerning where his desire came from will be a guess.>> <<@Columna_Veritatis says : All it took was 12 homeless young lads to get this Gospel message into ALL the earth. I urge any Christian to go and not be slothful but study with vigor, study history, every century and all of its highlights. The early church fathers, Apostolic Orthodox/Patristics (i.e. Patristic Era/Patristic Literature) Study ethics.. Atheism can be traced back to the 'Philosophy of the Atomic Self'. . A rather selfish belief system... Known in history as the philosophy to end all ethics. The Judeo Ethic changed world history, as promised through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The Ethic that changed world history had to be tediously and intricately taught to the ancients of the old testament whom came out of all of those foul lands of lawlessness such as Mesopotamia, Babylon, Assyria. . The Amorites, Amalekites, Midianites, these were of the seed of Noah and Abraham. . They were not "the lost" they were those that knew the Covenant, yet strayed intentionally into lawlessness... The museums show us the brutality of those civilizations. . God endured with that for 400 years before initiating the command to wipe out certain civilizations and place plagues upon other civilizations while yet allowing some to remain... The giver of Life, the One God not afraid of this system of free-agency He established, but established for the knowledge of good and the progression of life. We made the solid decision to disregard a single command that needed established by a Lawgiving, covenant keeping God in a place of Paradise, a state of blessedness. Where there are Laws, there are lines you do not cross. Hence, telling the Israelites that adultery is wrong in the old testament was consistent with quarantining your physical body from such grave risks of diseases and mass STDs spreading rampant and ending the building up of civilizations... Jesus comes along and still stands for that but then presses upon the human soul..>> <<@steveprofiler says : Even if there is sometimg divine that gave people so called "free will" You still did not choose to be born. All choices came as a follow-up of beeing born that you did not choose. Therefor no "free will">> <<@SojournerDidimus says : Are you really conflating human agency and angelic agency as if the Bible reveals them as identical?!>> <<@steveprofiler says : Is believing in free will evil ?>> <<@joshnelson3344 says : James White had a great response to this on his show yesterday.>> <<@brockmerchant3663 says : This is one of Dr. Turek's biggest downfalls to me. I started out by listening prominently to him and as I read the Bible and my understanding matured, I moved more into calvinism and reformed theology.>> <<@dannyh.2861 says : Terrible theology once again by Frank. It's no wonder that he gets so much wrong when he doesn't even believe Genesis is literal history and that God created the world in 6 literal days. Frank believes in billions of years just like all the secular evolutionists.>> <<@teroomakirai5170 says : "God create Good" "Satan make Bad" that's the different?🤔👿😇🌟>> <<@nothingbutthetruth613 says : Calvinism is completely illogical and nonsensical. This is clear. However, the rest of Christianity doesn't make much sense either. If we are hopeless without jesus and we can't do it without jesus. If we can never be good enough in God's eyes and by ourselves we can't do anything about this issue except by believing in jesus and having him do it all for us, then what are we doing here? It's actually almost just like Calvinism. It's as if it is already decreed exactly what will happen. The only difference is as opposed to Calvinism, it will depend on just one thing...do you believe in jesus dying for you or not. If that's the only reason for us being here to just believe, I don't see any purpose to life. There is apparently then nothing to achieve or strive for or become so what are we doing here??>> <<@davidpelto8824 says : I have a lot of respect for some great Calvinist Bible teachers i hear, but here's a question. Why, if salvation is only by God's sovereign choice, and grace is irresistible, and perseverance is inevitable.... why does scripture warn beleivers against apostasy and ultimately, judgement and condemnation. I've heard it's to motivate us to steadfastness... but if grace is irresistible, what use are motivations?>> <<@Called_Out_Ones says : Calvinism does NOT make God evil. Everything God does, is for His glory. He allowed evil to exist so that from it, His goodness shines brighter than the dawn. He allowed Satan to be evil. He allowed all of humanity to be in sin, He allowed humanity's evil to exhaust itself to the point of crucifying the ONLY GOOD MAN that ever lived - The Son of Man. He Himself created Hell, to punish Satan and His angels and those who He has NOT chosen. He saves, regenerates, sustains, preserves the faith of, and is faithful to persevere His saints to the end. Arminianism may not answer the questions about God's Sovereignty the same way, but is immensely practical for evangelism, apologetics, and for active repentance in Sanctification. The arguments tend to go nowhere because the two positions are different lenses: one view is panoramic, and broad - "God is completely Sovereign - omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent/knowing God's mind, His heart, and knowing as much about God through scripture as possible/and seeing His good plan throughout the Biblical narrative" vs a narrower focused view on one's personal walk - following Jesus through devotion/fellowship/repentance/prayer/evangelism, asking in faith, asking in doubt, sometimes not knowing, but actively praying, actively serving, actively going (sharing Gospel) - being responsible. When does everyone stop arguing? When we sing for 1 hour at church about how glorious Our Savior is, and How He saved such wretched people like ourselves by being nailed to a tree.>> <<@danielmorris4765 says : Why become an apologist if your a calvanist? Because you understand that your actions were predetermined and this means you fear no failure knowing your proclamation of the truth. Also I don't think human will and the will of Satan who is a fallen angel who went his own way are compareable in that god didnt give satan free will, he sinned and that was what was "free" about it. And then he deceived humanity because Satan is the author of evil. He was the original believer in free will.>> <<@aussiedadreviews says : Obedience. Pretty simple. God is sovereign. This is a straw argument.>> <<@TheRastacabbage says : Removing your ability to choose is the greatest evil. It's Satan's plan, not gods>> <<@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe says : Jesus loves me this I know, for we are responsible to where we go...for the Bible tells me so😉>> <<@RowanTasmanian says : Another fantastic message by Frank Turek.>>