Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@CrossExamined says : Listen to full podcast here👉📱https://apple.co/3TYVse0>> <<@liberatewethepeople9121 says : Be Catholic 🙏🏼>> <<@JonathonJay97 says : Just be Catholic>> <<@BatMan-cq8gq says : You can't prove nor disprove an amorphous concept that means different things to different people. In short, God is the ultimate moving goalposts. It becomes whatever you don't understand.>> <<@HaleStorm49 says : More importantly - how many apples are in the seeds produced by that first apple? You are talking about eternal progression - which is a doctrine that Frank doesn't agree with.?>> <<@sopad4629 says : God is always here. We’re not always aware of it but he’s here.>> <<@francx_o says : How do you know infinite regressions aren't allowed in the universe?>> <<@depiction3435 says : This is idiotic>> <<@TheLightAtTheEnd says : turek is insane grifter>> <<@RangerRyke says : The unfounded assumption here is that the first cause is personal.>> <<@ExotericBowdenism says : Pseudo intellectual argument>> <<@obdurateliberty7991 says : I went outside and saw a bird eating another birds babies. If he did indeed design all this he must either be incompetent or a nutcase.>> <<@BrazilianImperialist says : There are plenty of god arguments for the existence of god and this is not one of them>> <<@rileypare7946 says : I didn’t know Dave was on YouTube 🤣>> <<@Ponera-Sama says : Aquinas didn't know about Newton's laws of motion, which show that movement can be as much of a natural state as non-movement and there is no reason to assume the latter has to be the default.>> <<@matthewharrison6345 says : Should raise more red flags that a soviet army demonstration when your “argument” for god is prefaced with, “oh you don’t need any scientific data for this”>> <<@danbailey2964 says : But we see the band. OH WAIT, LOOK AT THE TREES!!! YOU SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THAT!>> <<@matthewwoodard3117 says : Philosophical arguments still need evidence rooted in reality. Simply stating, this seems to make sense is not a good argument. It seems to make sense that an object can not be in two places at once, yet quantum mechanics and the double slit experiment show that is not necessarily true. The unmoved mover is also a bad hypothesis. Why is the unmoved mover not subject to the same logic as everything else? If something had to have caused everything then the same can be said of god. Otherwise this is special pleading again with no evidence. Just a very bad argument all around.>> <<@pnut3844able says : "They don't require any science" that right there discredits everything you say>> <<@JoJo-nv8jy says : To all those who reject the obvious truth Dr Frank Turek is speaking remember this, you can't reason with the unreasonable fool.>> <<@lukewagner8871 says : Hebrews 11:3 KJVS Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.>> <<@GRAHFXENO says : This literally makes zero sense, so no, this is NOT proof of a God. This is ridiculously amateur apologetics using clumsy non-logic and outdated arguments>> <<@jozenthejozarian2564 says : That is proof of a tree, not of a God>> <<@barryt2666 says : Oops! Sorry, I stumbled upon another BS channel. Carry on with you BS.>> <<@011001011101001 says : After humans became self aware, but before they had scientific knowledge and understanding, they didn't know how to explain how we got here and decided a greater being must be out there that made us. This is why with little scientific knowledge (or the intentional denying of scientific findings) it only makes sense to believe there is a greater being who made us. With learning things in science, it very quickly becomes understandable how we came to be without there being a greater being who made us (as evidenced by the climbing numbers of atheists and agnostics as science progresses). And honestly it's a lot more fascinating too. Not to say there for sure isn't a greater being that helped make us through the process we can learn about through science, but certainly saying that the greater beings that are talked about in literature can be shown as false through the scientific and historical inaccuracies vampant throughout the texts - especially the one in the Bible, which is the one people are thinking about in this video.>> <<@michaelpeterson2024 says : you just need to be or act like a simpleton. loOk At tHAt TrEe>> <<@majmage says : Why don't believers care whether these are illogical arguments? You can't say that movement requires a "mover" to have moved it, _and then call that thing an unmoved mover without explaining how it was moved!_ As with all "cosmological" type arguments, you have to pick one: A. Everything or not everything has a cause B. Everything or not everything is moved etc... And once you make a choice, you've ruled out god. No matter your choice. Does everything have a cause? Then an uncaused god is impossible Does not everything have a cause? Then we don't have a logical reason for saying any given thing needs a cause -- _anything_ that's at the "top" of our current list of causes might be that first cause, including all sorts of non-gods like the universe itself. The other arguments are just as illogical, and you can look up their mistakes online. Please, people _care about truth._>> <<@Boblw56 says : The archaic Aquinas argument presented by this ignorant blowhard has been debunked countless times by people a lot smarter than him.>> <<@dalex60 says : 100% unsubstantiated claims, zero factual proof for the existence of a god presented…>> <<@spatrk6634 says : best non arguments i ever heard>> <<@georgewawman9649 says : Or just enjoy the tree. No need to evolve god.>> <<@d.h.5407 says : Aquinas used reason.>> <<@Faint366 says : These arguments don’t require scientific knowledge or empiric evidence all right. In fact, having scientific knowledge about anything actually seems so work against these arguments and they rely entirely on a lack of empiricism.>> <<@chickenpants says : The reason these 'arguments' contain no scientific knowledge of because they formulated during the dark ages. A thousand years of intellectual darkness where the made-up nonsense of theology occupied the best minds. The church actively stamped out scientific endeavours because they contradicted the stories in their magic book. Maybe try something post Enlightenment rather than trying to drag us all backwards.>> <<@zamaxx8054 says : xd wtf ajajajajaj no words only lol>> <<@NeoDemocedes says : Yea. It's actually BETTER if you don't have a great deal of education of any kind. Just the ability to listen, and not think too much, and just believe whatever they tell you.>> <<@CRuM770 says : And this right here boys and girls is why you should never do drugs or join a religion. They both compromise your cognitive ability, but at least drugs have a much lower overall cost.>> <<@irgus9641 says : Please stop, your fiction isn't even good fiction.>> <<@briancomley8210 says : l'm not saying things don't change, but what proof do you have it was your god?.>> <<@Titil3223 says : Ah yes...the existence of God is proven through the foliage. 😂 I hope I didn't sound this ignorant when I was a Christian.>> <<@Koz6336 says : Well yeah, it super simple if you just beg the question. Let me try: the universe is not contingent therefore does not require a mover therefore a god doesn't exist. Hey that was easy. Word games are fun.>> <<@warrencolegrove1 says : Aquinas didn’t prove god. Nothing and no one has ever proved god. Stop that.>> <<@jiubboatman9352 says : And the special pleading kicks in at the extremely precise god you happen to have been raised to believe in (In most cases. Strange thing that god is cultural.). Don't forget this argument can be made by every religion that claims a creator god or gods.>> <<@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers says : Even if you could call the bible evidence, it’s poor. If the bible is egregiously faulty then the main character’s existence is likely fantasy. If the existence of Yahweh is a fiction then the god man Jesus cannot stand. Faith based on the contents of the bible is worthless for the following reasons… There is real historical evidence of John the Baptist, but not of the greater Jesus. There is historical evidence of Appolonious, a character similar to Jesus, but not of Jesus. There is an historical record of Jesus Ben Pandera but, no Jesus the Galilean outside of the bible. Nothing. There’s Jesus ben Ananias, a rude peasant, who went around Jerusalem in 66CE prophesying its fall in 70CE; he’s recorded in documents outside the bible, but not the biblical Jesus. His alleged disciples never wrote anything they were uneducated peasants. His enemies never recorded his miracles nor his troublesome nature. The bible account says he was widely known and a divisive figure that the Romans never recorded, and neither did the Jews. There were a number of people with the name Jesus, exhibiting Jesus behaviours, many have been recorded; but, not the Jesus of the bible. Was he a fiction? Indeed, you don’t require any actual person to have actually existed for a “reality” to grow from nothing. King Arthur and Robin Hood, along with William Tell, and others, come to mind. Was the biblical Jesus based on a composite of these other Jesus’s with reference to the Old Testament plagiarise to elevate these people to one divine god. The rest of the Jesus/Yahweh tale is equally murky. There’s no evidence that all the first born were killed either in Egypt nor by Herod. I think the Egyptians would have recorded such a calamity and the calamities of the plagues, but nothing. Could the Jews have made it all up? The first line of the bible is clearly incorrect. The Earth was formed 9.8 billion years after the heavens. How did the creator get that wrong? And, the rest of the creation is wrong. It’s as if an ancient ignorant tribe wrote it all by themselves, no god to help. There are no waters above the firmament, for a start. Heaven isn’t up there either, we’ve been there. The tribes of the Middle East wouldn’t have known oceans could be frozen but for the heat of the sun. But, water was everywhere before the sun was “created” in the biblical account. More evidence of a fiction by an ignorant tribe with no access to a god creator. Adam was made from dirt by magic and he, this god, forgot about Eve, an afterthought. so not an all knowing and wise god then? Snakes and donkeys talk, nonsense fiction, right up there with Harry Potter, though JK Rowling was clearly a better writer with fewer continuity errors. This god set up Eve by placing this magic apple within her reach. Then punished humanity thereafter. What a vicious god, if not a fictional one. Nonsense fiction, by an ignorant ancient people writing about their mythology, their nation’s origins, steeped in the mists of the past, just the same as the Greek, Persian and Babylonian cultures write about their make believe gods who were equally fervently worshipped. Inanna, the dying and rising goddess was such an example. But many more dying and rising gods in the lexicon of ancient myths. Virgin births were pretty common too. Adam and Eve’s children (as Eve was a clone of Adam) and grandchildren (as Cain, Able and Seth only had Eve to produce offspring or with their unknown sisters) could only have been produced by incest, then double incest, according to the biblical account. Clearly god didn’t know that the inbreeding of the biblical account would lead to genetic problems. None of it true, nothing a creator god would have penned. It was a fiction by a Jewish ancient people. The Exodus apparently didn’t happen according to all evidence, acknowledged by the Jewish archaeologists who have tried to find it. The Egyptians never wrote of their army being swallowed by the sea. Mosses may never existed. There is a massive amount of genocide in the bible by a god who failed to get the locals to behave. Genocide because the Israelites needed a land to make home. If a creator of the universe and humans could have just thought a new land, a new island, south of Cyprus, it would have appeared. Easy for a god, not so for an ancient tribe to pull off? Then, this god could have told these others how to behave and punished individuals, if that’s what was needed. But no, he went straight to mass murder. What? And, the greatest god in the universe was defeated by iron chariots: Judges1:19. That is so ridiculous, such a puny god. Or, is it because the story was a creation of a tribe that had no concept of future technologies or tactics to defeat these new Iron Age chariots? I’m sure that a human Napoleon type tactician could have done better than the all wise, all powerful fictitious god of the universe. Genesis 19 tells us of Lot being raped by this daughters. And yet this god is moral? He could have changed the course of their predicament, found him a younger wife or servant to sleep with, if a god. More incest. The Jewish religion was at its heart, a blood sacrifice barbaric religion. The books that were supposedly written by Mosses consist of a linguistic style that didn’t exist at the time of his “life”. It’s a fictitious narrative, written by the Jews to give their new nation an historical legitimacy, and unify them, in the midst of other powerful cultures in the Middle East. Didn’t help much though, they were constantly being invaded and subjugated by more powerful “gods” of other warring nations. Even Yahweh acknowledged there were other gods. Remember the Ten Commandments tablets that were conveniently broken and then without fuss, lost. An all powerful creator of the universe who missed the opportunity to create the tablets out of an advanced technology, such as, I don’t know, Titanium? Is that because the Jews didn’t know about such a thing and so had no understanding of the future? The forging of such a technology would have cemented the truth of their god. Broken disappeared stone tablets: clearly, no god involved. Convenient. Noah and his flood occurred when the Egyptians where going about their cultural and religious practices that continued afterwards; and, their religion was not replaced by the flood family’s immediate ancestors, fanning out from the ark. The Pharaohs and their gods continued unabated. No Yahweh? More incest? The Chinese culture and writing developed along a continuum and they too were never taken the religion of Yahweh from the Middle East, by Noah’s relatives. And, the ancient Britons and Australians failed to notice they were meant to be dead. The New Testament, if it is read, critically, is inconsistent and evolves over time. Indeed, the gospels were not written for decades after the death of this Jesus, whose birth and death are still questionable and no date can be asserted with clarity. There was no census when Herod was alive, that story was made up after the event. Nazareth was not a town in the first century and was only “discovered“ when Constantine’s mother, Helena, went looking for it. The gospel writers mistook the word Nazarene for a town. And there are many problems with the census and the way it is told. Because it was written as fact over one hundred years after the supposed birth of this Jesus. More fiction? The whole point of a census is to count the number of people in an area. The census of the bible is an artificial device to get Mary to give birth in the town of David where the biblical messiah was to be born. And, boulders weren’t placed in front of tombs until later, about 50 years, one of the reasons that the gospels are thought to have been written many years after the myth of Jesus. And, the crucified where left to rot on the cross/pole on which they were hung as a warning to insurrectionists? No empty tomb, it’s a fiction to turn a myth into a “fact”. To turn man into god. Pilate was, in real history, recorded history, a truly nasty contemptuous man, he would never have allowed the process of crucifixion as a warning to have been undermined. And, the alleged trial is a tale of the blood cult of scapegoating. Even Barabbus was a literary device representing scapegoating, suggesting it never occurred. Barabbus means, son of the teacher, or son of the father. The gospel writers where representing the two characters as essentially the same, one became the goat sacrifice. And, the twist was that the Jews shouted to let the murderer go, allowing the blame for Jesus’s death to be placed on the Jews and not the imperial Romans. It was very much a political narrative because the Jews and Romans where essentially at war, the destruction of the Temple in 70AD/CE, and this new sect/cult needed to distinguish themselves from the Jewish troublemakers, and the ongoing violence of the time. Paul never knew Jesus and only depicted him as a spiritual vision. He knew nothing of the man and nothing of his life or his teachings. More evidence that the Chrestos (anointed) was mythical? The first time the gospels were mentioned was in 180AD/CE by Irenaeus. Indeed, a very prominent Christian, Theophilus, said that he came to believe in Jesus from reading the Jewish Scriptures or, Torah. No mention of the gospels, no quoting of anything Jesus allegedly said. That was circa, 170-182AD/CE. The myth of the god man Jesus was created over many years. But, Mark was first written, not until at least 70AD/CE but, as above, could have been much later. No record of the star of Bethlehem, of the graves emptying, or the sky darkening. It’s fiction. Christians may need to believe in this lie. Still, it’s a lie.>> <<@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers says : Even if you could call the bible evidence, it’s poor. If the bible is egregiously faulty then the main character’s existence is likely fantasy. If the existence of Yahweh is a fiction then the god man Jesus cannot stand. Faith based on the contents of the bible is worthless for the following reasons… There is real historical evidence of John the Baptist, but not of the greater Jesus. There is historical evidence of Appolonious, a character similar to Jesus, but not of Jesus. There is an historical record of Jesus Ben Pandera but, no Jesus the Galilean outside of the bible. Nothing. There’s Jesus ben Ananias, a rude peasant, who went around Jerusalem in 66CE prophesying its fall in 70CE; he’s recorded in documents outside the bible, but not the biblical Jesus. His alleged disciples never wrote anything they were uneducated peasants. His enemies never recorded his miracles nor his troublesome nature. The bible account says he was widely known and a divisive figure that the Romans never recorded, and neither did the Jews. There were a number of people with the name Jesus, exhibiting Jesus behaviours, many have been recorded; but, not the Jesus of the bible. Was he a fiction? Indeed, you don’t require any actual person to have actually existed for a “reality” to grow from nothing. King Arthur and Robin Hood, along with William Tell, and others, come to mind. Was the biblical Jesus based on a composite of these other Jesus’s with reference to the Old Testament plagiarise to elevate these people to one divine god. The rest of the Jesus/Yahweh tale is equally murky. There’s no evidence that all the first born were killed either in Egypt nor by Herod. I think the Egyptians would have recorded such a calamity and the calamities of the plagues, but nothing. Could the Jews have made it all up? The first line of the bible is clearly incorrect. The Earth was formed 9.8 billion years after the heavens. How did the creator get that wrong? And, the rest of the creation is wrong. It’s as if an ancient ignorant tribe wrote it all by themselves, no god to help. There are no waters above the firmament, for a start. Heaven isn’t up there either, we’ve been there. The tribes of the Middle East wouldn’t have known oceans could be frozen but for the heat of the sun. But, water was everywhere before the sun was “created” in the biblical account. More evidence of a fiction by an ignorant tribe with no access to a god creator. Adam was made from dirt by magic and he, this god, forgot about Eve, an afterthought. so not an all knowing and wise god then? Snakes and donkeys talk, nonsense fiction, right up there with Harry Potter, though JK Rowling was clearly a better writer with fewer continuity errors. This god set up Eve by placing this magic apple within her reach. Then punished humanity thereafter. What a vicious god, if not a fictional one. Nonsense fiction, by an ignorant ancient people writing about their mythology, their nation’s origins, steeped in the mists of the past, just the same as the Greek, Persian and Babylonian cultures write about their make believe gods who were equally fervently worshipped. Inanna, the dying and rising goddess was such an example. But many more dying and rising gods in the lexicon of ancient myths. Virgin births were pretty common too. Adam and Eve’s children (as Eve was a clone of Adam) and grandchildren (as Cain, Able and Seth only had Eve to produce offspring or with their unknown sisters) could only have been produced by incest, then double incest, according to the biblical account. Clearly god didn’t know that the inbreeding of the biblical account would lead to genetic problems. None of it true, nothing a creator god would have penned. It was a fiction by a Jewish ancient people. The Exodus apparently didn’t happen according to all evidence, acknowledged by the Jewish archaeologists who have tried to find it. The Egyptians never wrote of their army being swallowed by the sea. Mosses may never existed. There is a massive amount of genocide in the bible by a god who failed to get the locals to behave. Genocide because the Israelites needed a land to make home. If a creator of the universe and humans could have just thought a new land, a new island, south of Cyprus, it would have appeared. Easy for a god, not so for an ancient tribe to pull off? Then, this god could have told these others how to behave and punished individuals, if that’s what was needed. But no, he went straight to mass murder. What? And, the greatest god in the universe was defeated by iron chariots: Judges1:19. That is so ridiculous, such a puny god. Or, is it because the story was a creation of a tribe that had no concept of future technologies or tactics to defeat these new Iron Age chariots? I’m sure that a human Napoleon type tactician could have done better than the all wise, all powerful fictitious god of the universe. Genesis 19 tells us of Lot being raped by this daughters. And yet this god is moral? He could have changed the course of their predicament, found him a younger wife or servant to sleep with, if a god. More incest. The Jewish religion was at its heart, a blood sacrifice barbaric religion. The books that were supposedly written by Mosses consist of a linguistic style that didn’t exist at the time of his “life”. It’s a fictitious narrative, written by the Jews to give their new nation an historical legitimacy, and unify them, in the midst of other powerful cultures in the Middle East. Didn’t help much though, they were constantly being invaded and subjugated by more powerful “gods” of other warring nations. Even Yahweh acknowledged there were other gods. Remember the Ten Commandments tablets that were conveniently broken and then without fuss, lost. An all powerful creator of the universe who missed the opportunity to create the tablets out of an advanced technology, such as, I don’t know, Titanium? Is that because the Jews didn’t know about such a thing and so had no understanding of the future? The forging of such a technology would have cemented the truth of their god. Broken disappeared stone tablets: clearly, no god involved. Convenient. Noah and his flood occurred when the Egyptians where going about their cultural and religious practices that continued afterwards; and, their religion was not replaced by the flood family’s immediate ancestors, fanning out from the ark. The Pharaohs and their gods continued unabated. No Yahweh? More incest? The Chinese culture and writing developed along a continuum and they too were never taken the religion of Yahweh from the Middle East, by Noah’s relatives. And, the ancient Britons and Australians failed to notice they were meant to be dead. The New Testament, if it is read, critically, is inconsistent and evolves over time. Indeed, the gospels were not written for decades after the death of this Jesus, whose birth and death are still questionable and no date can be asserted with clarity. There was no census when Herod was alive, that story was made up after the event. Nazareth was not a town in the first century and was only “discovered“ when Constantine’s mother, Helena, went looking for it. The gospel writers mistook the word Nazarene for a town. And there are many problems with the census and the way it is told. Because it was written as fact over one hundred years after the supposed birth of this Jesus. More fiction? The whole point of a census is to count the number of people in an area. The census of the bible is an artificial device to get Mary to give birth in the town of David where the biblical messiah was to be born. And, boulders weren’t placed in front of tombs until later, about 50 years, one of the reasons that the gospels are thought to have been written many years after the myth of Jesus. And, the crucified where left to rot on the cross/pole on which they were hung as a warning to insurrectionists? No empty tomb, it’s a fiction to turn a myth into a “fact”. To turn man into god. Pilate was, in real history, recorded history, a truly nasty contemptuous man, he would never have allowed the process of crucifixion as a warning to have been undermined. And, the alleged trial is a tale of the blood cult of scapegoating. Even Barabbus was a literary device representing scapegoating, suggesting it never occurred. Barabbus means, son of the teacher, or son of the father. The gospel writers where representing the two characters as essentially the same, one became the goat sacrifice. And, the twist was that the Jews shouted to let the murderer go, allowing the blame for Jesus’s death to be placed on the Jews and not the imperial Romans. It was very much a political narrative because the Jews and Romans where essentially at war, the destruction of the Temple in 70AD/CE, and this new sect/cult needed to distinguish themselves from the Jewish troublemakers, and the ongoing violence of the time. Paul never knew Jesus and only depicted him as a spiritual vision. He knew nothing of the man and nothing of his life or his teachings. More evidence that the Chrestos (anointed) was mythical? The first time the gospels were mentioned was in 180AD/CE by Irenaeus. Indeed, a very prominent Christian, Theophilus, said that he came to believe in Jesus from reading the Jewish Scriptures or, Torah. No mention of the gospels, no quoting of anything Jesus allegedly said. That was circa, 170-182AD/CE. The myth of the god man Jesus was created over many years. But, Mark was first written, not until at least 70AD/CE but, as above, could have been much later. No record of the star of Bethlehem, of the graves emptying, or the sky darkening. It’s fiction. Christians may need to believe in this lie. Still, it’s a lie.>> <<@andrzej2501 says : Religious people are morons devoid of any logic.>> <<@valley3343 says : The good old "look at the trees" Argument..sit down and shut up. Nonsense.>> <<@KamiNoRanger99 says : To say the universe just exists for no reason and was not created but came into being is like saying the phone I’m typing on just happened to one day exist. Wasn’t created, just exists. The universe is certainly more complex than a phone, so why does the phone need a creator but we don’t?>> <<@ayamayamblackwhite3190 says : Look at the 🌳 🌲 🌴, look at the. Sky , look at the 🐝 🐝 🐝. Imagine proving a something that controversial & not requiring scientific evidence for it . Damn Frank I wish it was that easy to determine evidence based reality 😁🤣🤣>> <<@chrisbean9663 says : Hey Frank Thomas acquaintance was debunked even his own day This does not lead to a Christian God at all 😊 It also does not leave out the possibility of natural means😅You really are just flapping your gums at this point>>