Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@tonyornelas9374 says : Matthew 7:14 For narrow is the door and hard the road to life, and only a small number make discovery of it. Once saved always saved is dangerous. To say "I Believe" is not enough. You must constantly believe and obey. Even the demons believe.>> <<@user-hd8dv5dx2g says : Yes>> <<@andrewbaverstock2672 says : If you could lose your salvation, then it raises the obvious question of how could you find it again. The issue with this is that Jesus died once and for all so to regain your salvation He would have to die all over again. And again. And so on.>> <<@13kimosabi13 says : Terrible take ! You can’t lose your salvation because no one today is saved. Can’t lose what you don’t have.>> <<@dagwould says : The church's teaching on salvation has been neutered by the 'mid 19th C revivalists with their march down the aisle 'altar' (Christians don't have altars) call. To be saved is to be regenerated, as Frank said, to be sealed by the HS; that is, indelibly marked as God's own. It is not a glib verbal affirmation we make to believe and repent. It is life-transforming and at the 'cosmic' level.>> <<@annecampbell6034 says : He is deceived. The blood is not a covering for sin, it is the redemptive power to free us from the bondage of sin. “And you will call his name Jesus, for he shall save His people from their sins”,>> <<@dan_m7774 says : OSAS is of Satan>> <<@RealBiblicalLens says : There is so many different passages on this but look at Paul's last words.... "For I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time for my departure is near. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness..." (2 Timothy 4:6–8). The key is the verb tense used for "believes" (πιστεύων, pisteuōn) in John's Gospel. In passages like John 3:16, 3:36, 5:24, and 6:47, the word is a present active participle — which in Greek typically conveys continuous, ongoing action, not a completed one-time act. Just as in any relationship, its something you will always work on. And you can lose a relationship. Hebrews talks about being enlightened and tasting the Holy Spirit but falling away. John also talks about withered branches that are cut off. Producing Fruit literally would never have mattered and therefore the parable of the talents or parable of the Sower wouldn't even matter. Half the new testament really wouldn't matter if we can live whatever way we want. The whole "well they were never truly saved to begin with" is directly contradicting what Jesus implied with the parable of the Sower and Hebrews Hebrews 6:4 and 10:26. OSAS just isn't it.>> <<@Jere0101 says : We can say we believe and not truly believe. You can say that you don't believe in something yet believe in your heart. (Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? - Matthew 7:22). But your actions always show your true faith. "By their fruit you will know them" Matthew 7:16.>> <<@Lifelessonslife says : Very clear.>> <<@Almosthomeforever says : John 15:6>> <<@michaeljordan5972 says : Bible says faith without works is dead>> <<@michaeljordan5972 says : I know people don't like reading the Bible they don't like what it says apparently I read that one part where it says no one can pluck you from his hands and turn it into once saved always saved it's true no one can take you from his hands but that doesn't mean you can't walk away out of his hands and it does happen>> <<@lordthunderchicken4636 says : The faith is our part the salvation is His part. If we had to hold onto our salvation we would never be able to. Thats why its His part not ours.>> <<@songers_gaming says : There's a reason the topic is debated. There are many verses that point to both sides of the argument. Personally, I believe a person can lose salvation. Not by individual acts of sin(unless taking the mark of the beast) but by a willful turning of the heart. Biblical example would be King Solomon. Specifically 1 Kings 11 being the moment he does. Now, Essclesiastes is written at the end of his life. Seems to be a repentant heart here. So he does find his way again. OSAS will claim he was always saved. But this means you can worship demons knowingly and still be saved as per 1 Kings 11.>> <<@starbond2123 says : If a believer who is already saved and fall away into untrepentence living a totally disobedience life will he still go to heaven because of grace,,?>> <<@LilyFlowers-c3x1z says : Parable of the prodigal son, proof that once you're saved, you're always saved.>> <<@MT-tx2xd says : The Book of Mormon will bring you closer to Christ than any other book>> <<@SteveMorgan-l4k says : You believe once saved always saved, go read the letters to the 7 churches in Revelation and see if Jesus agrees with you. Now go read Galatians chapter 5 and see if Jesus agrees with you>> <<@SteveMorgan-l4k says : There's a huge difference between making mistakes and living in sin. For example you're driving along all seems well but suddenly someone pulls right out in front of you and you narrowly miss hitting them and out of your mouth comes one of those words you thought you would never say again, but it happened. You feel awful. What do you do? If you confess that sin, God is faithful and just to forgive you and cleanse you from all unrighteousness. WILLFUL SIN is entirely different. You're shacking up , you lie when it's convenient, You commit adultery, fornication, homosexuality, partying and getting half drunk or wasted. You're still cussing, etc. etc. The pastor told you once saved always saved you can't lose your salvation so why not enjoy your sin ,you have your ticket to heaven. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT FAKE PASTOR LIED TO YOU AND HIMSELF AND BOTH OF YOU WILL GO TO HELL WHEN YOU DIE AND END UP IN THE LAKE OF FIRE BURNING CONTINUALLY FOREVER WITHOUT END. So you have your ticket to heaven, now go live your life the way you want and when you die just hand God your ticket. NO A MILLION TIMES NO. many love that once saved always saved satanic doctrine because they don't want to give up their sin.>> <<@chaz4471 says : Yay!!! No I can lie, steal, have sex outside of marriage, drink and get drunk, do drugs and go to heaven!!! A free ticket! Thanks!>> <<@Myjesus-1 says : Sinning Christians are lukewarm Christians. Jesus said that no lukewarm Christian will be allowed in the kingdom of God.>> <<@st.johntheapostle says : Once saved always saved is a man made novelty created in the 16th century. It's neither biblical nor historical Christianity. 🙏🏽>> <<@Fruit_of_The_Way says : Jesus warns about people falling away from the faith and those who remain in church but are fruitless.>> <<@alextoukam5425 says : It is both, as they complement each other. 1) The saved ones are His Chosen Ones since the foundation of the earth for the Lamb was already slain before creation. Jesus said that we didn't choose Him but He chose us, He loved us First. All that the Father have given Him are secure in His hands and He shall loose none of them. That is why He circumcised our hearts to be able to accept Him and He sealed us by His Holy Spirit to guarantee our salvation. The very REPUTATION of God is on the line as SAVIOR. If Jesus fails to guard His sheep as the Great Shepherd then He would have failed the Father and thus be disqualified as the Messiah. Which is what the story of Moses pleading with God is all about by saying that if He destroyed His people because of the golden calve incident, the nations will say that He had the power to deliver them from Egypt (Sin) but could not keep them safe by bringing them into the promised Land. As fallen humans we could never turn and come to God. Thus the faith of humanity was doomed and without hope for redemption. That is why He had to come down from His throne to save us. 2) Now because we are His, He takes care of keeping us saved by His Holy Spirit who helps us in all our weaknesses; strengthens us to walk in His ways; disciplines us; and leads us in all Truth. Thus, it only by the grace and power of God that we endure to the end. This is why the TRULY saved ones are eternally grateful to Jesus by doing the following: -Showing their appreciation by being HUMBLE about their salvation for it stands on the merit of Jesus alone. (The testimony of Jesus) -Showing their love for God and man by keeping His commandments by their ACTIONS or FRUITS. (The Law of Love) -They pray for their enemies, families and brothers in Christ for them to experience the very mercy of God that Jesus extended to them also. Another bonus nugget: God saved us because of Himself and not because we chose Him or how good we are. He made us in His image and thus by redeeming man, God ultimately redeemed His own image and reputation because He cannot hate His own self. In a nutshell, the Chosen Ones are saved, sanctified and glorified by God Himself for them to qualify as Sons and Daughters of God. May the love and peace of Jesus abide in you all.>> <<@michaellee2920 says : It is Orthodox because if you believe you can lose salvation then it is based on works not Grace through Faith>> <<@ApologiaSancta says : How can... by simply stop believing>> <<@stevo890 says : Saved by faith yes, always saved and locked in? Jesus actually addresses this directly. In the parable of the two sons (Matt 21:28–31), one says yes but doesn’t follow through, and he is not doing the Father’s will. So an initial yes is not enough without obedience. Then in John 15:2,6 Jesus says branches in him that do not bear fruit are cut off and thrown into the fire. These are already in him, not outsiders. Add Matthew 24:13, ‘he who endures to the end will be saved,’ and you get a consistent picture. Salvation is not just a moment. It requires perseverance. A past yes does not override a present no.>> <<@rockafelladw says : Yes, you can lose your salvation. 2 Peter 2:20-22. There's no license to sin.>> <<@HornOfAfrica-Dacwah says : رجل أعمى يعرف عن عيسى عليه السلام أكثر من ملياري مسيحي يزعمون أن عيسى إله، فقد شُفِيَ على يده فقال: "هُوَ نَبِيٌّ" (يوحنا 9:17)، لأن الله لا يمكن أن يموت أبداً، وأطهر صور التوحيد هو الإسلام، وهو الدين الوحيد في عيون الله. وَقَالَ الله: "إِنَّ الدِّينَ عِندَ اللهِ الإِسْلَامُ" (سورة آل عمران 3:19)، ورغم تقصير الإنسان، فباب رحمة الله مفتوح دائماً لكل عباده: "قُلْ يَا عِبَادِيَ الَّذِينَ أَسْرَفُوا عَلَى أَنفُسِهِمْ: لَا تَقْنَطُوا مِن رَّحْمَةِ اللَّهِ، إِنَّ اللَّهَ يَغْفِرُ الذُّنُوبَ جَمِيعًا، إِنَّهُ هُوَ الْغَفُورُ الرَّحِيمُ" (سورة الزمر 39:53)>> <<@Perry-m2p says : How about is you saved then you are still doing not good you still live like the people who are not save>> <<@1769kjv says : very good! Frank Turek's soteriology definitely isn't consistent, it's highly possible that he is saved though. much more confident in turek's salvation than someone like kirk's salvation TBH>> <<@krosado1114 says : The pastor just contradicted himself… so therefore, you lose your salvation by no longer believing.>> <<@jeffdove6917 says : 100% False and dangerous teaching!>> <<@dashaunjefferies says : “He believes for a little while, then in the time of testing falls away”>> <<@jayhoff1122 says : So hypothetically speaking if Hitler at age 13 got baptised and accepted Jesus but ended up killing millions of Jews hes still going to heaven??....Nooooo stop with this false teaching leading millions into hell. This is the BIG GATE Jesus was warning us about. Choose the narrow path and the small gate>> <<@jayhoff1122 says : Its biblical you can lose your salvation. The Devil leading the weak into hell>> <<@beestoe993 says : Frank thinks he has eternal life. I'm pretty sure that comes only after death. And Judgement. Unless you are Elijah the Prophet. Im pretty sure Frank is not Elijah the Prophet. I know Im not.>> <<@walterabeyta733 says : FALSE PREACHER>> <<@brianrely3510 says : He who.believes !!!! My sheep" hear" My voice>> <<@dagnonmondy says : According to you people. If you reject Christ in five years from now. Once saved always saved community will say you were never saved. So why should I believe you now if maybe in five years you could reject Christ. Which would mean you were never saved. And everything you say now is not true. Based on once saved always save belief doctrine>> <<@patriotman2 says : The doctrine often summarized as “once saved, always saved” suggests that a single moment of belief guarantees eternal security regardless of how a person lives afterward. Yet Scripture consistently connects salvation not merely with profession, but with obedience and repentance. Jesus said plainly, “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15). Love is demonstrated through obedience. When told that His mother and brothers were outside, He answered, “My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it” (Luke 8:21). Hearing is not enough—doing identifies the true family of God. Likewise, Hebrews 5:9 declares that Christ “became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.” The text does not separate salvation from obedience; it unites them. Many point to John 3:16—“whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life”—as if belief were mere mental agreement. But biblical belief is far deeper. In Hebrew thought, faith carries the idea of trust that results in action. The Hebrew root often associated with belief is ’aman, meaning to support, confirm, or be faithful—conveying firmness and reliability. In the New Testament, genuine faith is living and active (James 2:17). Belief that does not transform behavior is not biblical belief at all. Consider this analogy: imagine a man inside a burning house. Someone outside shouts, “Your house is on fire!” The man looks out the window and says, “Yes, I believe my house is on fire.” But if he remains inside, that belief does nothing to save him. It would be absurd to claim he is safe simply because he intellectually agreed with the warning. True belief would compel him to act—to flee the flames. In the same way, it is not enough to say, “I believe in Jesus,” while ignoring His commands. Jesus did not merely say, “Look at Me and acknowledge Me.” He gave instructions for life. To believe in Him is to trust Him enough to obey Him. Scripture consistently joins repentance and faith. Jesus proclaimed, “Repent ye, and believe the gospel” (Mark 1:15). He warned in Luke 13:3, “Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.” He rebuked cities like Bethsaida because they did not repent (Matthew 11:21). Repentance means turning around—turning from sin toward God. When He forgave the woman caught in adultery, He told her, “Go, and sin no more” (John 8:11). Grace was not a license to continue in sin; it was a call to transformation. Divine command comes with divine empowerment. Finally, Romans 13:8–10 explains that love fulfills the law. When we walk in the Spirit, we walk in love, and love keeps the commandments. This is the secret of the Christian life—not lawlessness, but Spirit-empowered obedience. Salvation is not earned by works, but it is evidenced by a life that follows Christ. Believing and obeying are not opposites; in biblical faith, they are inseparable. For a deeper study on this vital subject, check out "Hoping for Heaven, Reservations in Hell" by David Rose, available on Amazon.>> <<@Fuzzball777 says : That's called isolating one scripture and making your whole belief out of that when the Bible describes lots of other verses that fly in the face of once saved always saved. The Bible says you can know you're saved but it also warns you to remain in the faith and what happens to those who do not! Why not just read the Bible it reads>> <<@patriotman2 says : The doctrine commonly called “once saved, always saved” collapses under the plain reading of Scripture because the New Testament repeatedly places conditions on continuing in salvation. The Bible does not shy away from words like if, continue, hold fast, and endure. Paul tells the Corinthians, “By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain” (1 Corinthians 15:2). Jesus Himself says, “He that endureth to the end shall be saved” (Matthew 24:13). These are not hypothetical warnings given to unbelievers; they are sober exhortations directed at professing believers. A salvation that cannot be forfeited makes these warnings meaningless, turning the inspired Word of God into empty rhetoric. Paul’s letters are especially damaging to unconditional security when read honestly. Writing to the Galatians, Paul warns believers that those who practice the works of the flesh “shall not inherit the kingdom of God” (Galatians 5:19–21). He is not addressing pagans but baptized church members. Likewise, in Ephesians 5:5–6, Paul tells believers that no immoral or covetous person has an inheritance in Christ and warns, “Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.” The wrath of God does not “abide” on someone who was never in covenant to begin with. These warnings only make sense if believers are capable of apostasy through persistent rebellion. The modern idea that salvation hinges on a single moment where one “says a prayer” is foreign to Scripture. Jesus never preached a sinner’s prayer. Instead, He said, “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15), and “Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?” (Luke 6:46). Repentance is not mental assent; it is transformation. Dr. George Lamsa, a renowned scholar of the Aramaic language—the language Jesus spoke—explained that repentance carries the idea of turning around completely, a decisive break from sin. This aligns perfectly with the New Testament call to die to self and walk in newness of life (Romans 6:1–7). Faith that does not produce obedience is not saving faith at all. This is not works-based salvation—it is biblical salvation. Scripture is clear that we are saved by grace, but it is equally clear that grace trains us. “For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world” (Titus 2:11–12). James echoes this truth when he declares that faith without works is dead—not because works save us, but because genuine faith always produces fruit. The early Church Fathers preached repentance, holiness, and perseverance without apology. They never taught that a Christian could live in rebellion and still inherit eternal life. Much of the confusion surrounding eternal security stems from poor theology, shallow discipleship, and compromised Bible translations that soften warnings and redefine terms. Too many teachers spend more time in the presence of men than in the presence of God, offering false assurance instead of the fear of the Lord, which Scripture says is the beginning of wisdom. The gospel is not a license to sin—it is freedom from sin. Christ did not die to make us legally forgiven rebels; He died to make us holy sons and daughters who walk in obedience by the power of the Spirit. For those who want to explore this issue more deeply, I recommend my book Hoping for Heaven, Reservations in Hell, available on Amazon. It confronts false assurance head-on and calls believers back to the narrow way that Jesus Himself preached—a way marked by repentance, faith, endurance, and a life transformed by grace.>> <<@robertgentry7526 says : Its an incorrect question to start with - as god is the only one who knows if you're truly"saved"!>> <<@JerzyGowka says : What about Demas (2Tm4:10)? He was a Paul"s coworker, propbably made a decision to accept Christ, and the statement of Paul "he beloved the world". What about perseverance to the end? Just a question.❤>> <<@Anthony-n3z says : I believed the taxi was going to take me to the right place, until it didn't. Turned out i called the right number but I communicated the wrong directions to the driver.>> <<@GoderikCristobal says : No man can take them from my grip. I am a man so I cannot lose my salvation by my will or any other man’s.>> <<@StevenAzoro says : If so, why warn believers about falling away, if that's not a possibility?? Also whether you have eternal life or not, dosen't stop eternal life from being eternal. It was eternal before you received it and when you receive it. The only thing that's NOT eternal, is your possession of it. The bible never tells us that. So, the "If you could lose your salvation, the life isn't eternal anymore" argument dosen't really hold up.>> <<@lightdancedesigns says : You can lose your salvation! Amazed that you've missed so many OBVIOUS passages in the Bible.>>