Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@ajgibson1307 says : God bless>> <<@saabajoe says : Mike Licona the shameless liar. I shudder to think of such a person claiming belief in God. Remember, all will face God one day and give account.>> <<@zeddicuszorrander3599 says : If you're studying this issue from your own Christian perspective, good. But if you're trying to convince a non-beleiver, saying, "My religious text says X,'" and "My religious text says, "There were 500 witnesses'" are the same argument. If the individual doesn't believe your text is reliable/true, then how would saying, "My religious text X is true" be a convincing thing to say?>> <<@mushybakaton8555 says : Resurrections were quite common in Rome, especially after hanging on the cross. People tend to pass out from exhaustion and seem completely dead, almost no pulse etc. They didn't have modern machines so they just buried the victim, who would often wake up after a day or two>> <<@danbel says : In 30 AD Pilate wrote to Caesar Augustus and proclaimed Jesus was resurrected and and asked that His name put be on the Senate Columns as a God.>> <<@tmcalhoon9668 says : This philosophical presupposition against historians proving a miracle is actually very reasonable because a miracle is a paranormal event. If we open up the paranormal to historians, a lot of things suddenly become historical facts. Example: The Great Pyramid in Egypt used water pressure to send microwave signals into space, much like modern SETI programs. How did the ancient Egyptians know about this and why did they do it? The answer is obvious-ALIENS! The Mayans made Chichen Itza, a pyramid that makes a snake illusion on equinoxes, and they knew that the solar year is 365.25 days long. How did the ancient Mayans have such detailed knowledge of astronomy? The answer is obvious-ALIENS! Modern-day farmers will give you their testimony about a UFO landing in their field and show you the residual radioactivity at the landing site. Why is there residual radioactivity there? The answer is obvious-ALIENS! The more reasonable answer to the prior questions is *we don't know* and we should stop pretending to know.>> <<@williamhutcheson6511 says : You can be an atheist and believe the Resurrection. I am not and I do. Just think of it as merely another event in a universe consisting of quirky quarky events of no particular significance. I don't. I think it follows a recurring pattern in history, personal and planetary i.e. sudden change followed by slow growth. The coming of light after hours of darkness.>> <<@stormy7709 says : What evidence is there for god's existence?>> <<@samueldrake0123 says : Who Said Any Agnostic Or Atheists Believe Jesus and His Disciples Existed in The First Place...Let Alone their Preaching and Murder.. Its all Written by Some Group Of Master Manipulative Philosophers In The Darkness to Make it their Tool To Control the World....>> <<@davestrongman9519 says : I have a hard time taking any grown man seriously who would wear that shirt. Is that from the garanimals collection?>> <<@peterbassey9668 says : It strikes me how the fine tuned universe reflects as well in how God times His dealings with mankind. Just think about it, if Christ had appeared earlier than He did, the possibility of His story being unrecorded or labeled as outright folk legend would’ve been strong; and had He appeared later than He did, the rowdiness of our times and the confusion of ideas would’ve consigned His appearance to something akin to fake news or rumour of someone with magical powers living somewhere in the Middle East.>> <<@romitsu968 says : Lord Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life: No one comes to the Father, except through Him. Amen.>> <<@tongakhan230 says : The best evidence to the resurrection of Jesus is his promise to be with his faithful disciples till the end of this system (Matthew 28:20). Jesus is leading his regathered true disciples in the fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 during these last days prior to God bringing his war of change. Sadly, only a few will survive to be the New Earth of righteous humans (Matthew 7:14, Psalms 37:29).>> <<@TalkingOutOfSchool says : John 20:4 So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre. 5 And he stooping down, [and looking in], saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in. 6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, 7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. 8 Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed. 9 For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.>> <<@zachtbh says : 2 of the hardest topic to defend, the resurrection and the virgin birth. But I think the virgin birth is really a tough one.>> <<@truthtolight1465 says : Just a passing thought.. if Christianity belief is suppose to be a faith, it means that we are suppose to trust in something we cannot prove. But there is the existence of evidence that the resurrection event happened, which is strong prove that Christ is God. Would that mean that Christianity is no longer a faith since there is evidence that exist which can prove the religion is true? If anyone can explain I'll be grateful ><>> <<@davidbermudez7704 says : 1 Corinthians 15:1-8 is the earliest creed from the Apostles dated 35 AD-50 AD. Jesus died on 33 AD!>> <<@stephenrandell7152 says : Legend , lies and hallucinations unlikely ! But people coming back to life after death likely!???>> <<@nonprogrediestregredi1711 says : Frank, your cosmological, teleological, and moral arguments are flawed. This has been repeatedly pointed out to you, yet you act as if they are not. Also, there is little to explain about the "five hundred"; you've got a second hand account from nearly two millennia ago by a superstitious man who was self admittedly prone to hallucinations. Also, we do not even have original copies. Gee, you can't get more reliable than that, I say sarcastically. This is just another example of how Christianity requires a poor epistemology to believe its propositions.>> <<@JT-by9ki says : Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. 2 And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it. 3 His countenance was like lightning, and his clothing as white as snow. 4 And the guards shook for fear of him, and became like dead men. 5 But the angel answered and said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. 6 He is not here; for He is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. 7 And go quickly and tell His disciples that He is risen from the dead, and indeed He is going before you into Galilee; there you will see Him. Behold, I have told you." 8 So they went out quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to bring His disciples word. 9 And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, "Rejoice!" So they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go and tell My brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see Me." Matthew 28>> <<@Pac81 says : Question: If we can rule out lies and hallucinations (be they individual or group) for the resurrection, then would we have to accept the Fatima apparition where the sun danced in the sky and hundreds saw it? Genuine question, not Catholic personally and not taking any sides here, just wondering if we can apply the same criteria for belief elsewhere outside the resurrection?>> <<@theoskeptomai2535 says : I have never encountered any credible evidence that substantiates the historicity of Jesus.>> <<@samuelrodriguez9199 says : Thank you Lord for opening the eyes of the blind and helping me to see your truth. God is truly good.>> <<@shankz8854 says : The fact they went to their deaths for their beliefs isn’t evidence they weren’t lying it’s evidence they fervently _believed_ what they were claiming. It’s as much proof of the resurrection as suicide bombing is proof of Islam. “Only 7% of those likely to experience hallucinations experience a visual one.” Where did he get that stat from? I can almost guarantee it’s not relevant to the time, place and situation. Hallucinations, including visual ones can be induced in most people quite easily. “Group hallucinations do not occur”. Yes, but neither do resurrections! So we have the same evidence for both. Further, we do not have several independent sources that all attest to the same thing, we have ONE source claiming Jesus appeared to a large group. This could easily be a lie or an embellishment, false memory, a single hallucination by Paul, etc. Ruling out hallucination because Paul “wasn’t grieving” is of course totally absurd. This is not the only precursor to hallucination. Believe in the resurrection of you will, accept Jesus as your lord if you must, but please, don’t pretend it’s the most logical and rational interpretation of the evidence.>> <<@RobertA-oi6hw says : Romans 1:1-4 Paul, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God 2 which He promised before through His prophets in the Holy Scriptures, 3 concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh, 4 and declared to be the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead.>> <<@steveparks8168 says : I've never heard anything relevant to deny the resurrection. No argument even comes close to getting me to doubt my faith and why should it? Once you experience the Holy Spirit in your life there is no more room for doubt. It's a done deal.>> <<@Scorpion-my3dv says : I love the old hymn that says: you ask me how I know he lives, he lives within my heart>> <<@azraellordluciferavontehop1650 says : Does the end mean death? So God is the Beginning and the end, alpha and omega. Past down to Jesus who died already, face his father faith in revelation "I'm the Beginning and the endeath">> <<@deepsquatproductions2227 says : I have yet to see any extra biblical evidence regarding the 500 witnesses. No evidence that they independently testified or documented their sighting of jesus. Just a claim from Paul that some 500 some him, and Paul is obviously a biased source. Group hallucination being rare or shaky at best doesn't really matter. Unless you have those 500 testifying and not just a claim from paul it doesn't hold any water. Paul could've made up the 500 from whole cloth. There could've been folks who had dreams or hallucinations or drug experiences. Perhaps a small group took drugs and saw jesus, and over time the story was embellished by the time it got to Paul. I'm not saying any of my explanations have "more explanatory power" but you cannot claim to have 500 witnesses. You have Paul, who claims to be a witness, and pauls claim about some 500 out there. They are not the same.>> <<@incredulouspasta3304 says : _"The disciples of Jesus, those who knew him and walked with him, were proclaiming that Jesus died, buried, was raised, appeared to Peter, to James, to the twelve, to the 500, and to all the apostles... it does away with legend"_ No, the Creed isn't attributed to the disciples who walked with Jesus. Paul doesn't say where he got it from. In fact, in Galatians, Paul goes out of his way to emphasize how little information he got from the Jerusalem apostles. Licona is making this up. Even if we attribute the Creed to those who actually experienced the appearances, the Creed says little about the nature of those appearances. To rule out hallucinations, dreams, vague "spiritual" sensations, "revelations" from scripture reading, and other possibilities, Licona is importing details from the gospels and elsewhere. Those details absolutely could be a part of a growing legend. Anyone who has been to a charismatic church knows that a wide variety of emotional group experiences, like a group worship or prayer service, could later be described in summary as the group "seeing God", like in the Creed.>> <<@rickintexas1584 says : It is a great time to be a Christian. Apologetics are stronger than ever. Unfortunately unbelief is on the rise because of so many external factors. But for those of us that believe it is a good time.>> <<@rashidaquil5284 says : Simple Jesus was a monotheistic messiah Jew who was born from virgin Mary 12 and Jesus prayer was accepted in the garden of Gethsemane and did not go thru crucifixion and was raised to his creator End of all the mysteries and paganism>> <<@colinmatts says : Frank loves throwing out this crap about cosmological, ontological and teleological arguments proving we live in a theistic universe. Doesn't he know that arguments are NOT evidence? Certainly not for the Christian god. There is no evidence that 500 people saw the risen Jesus. That's a claim in one of Paul's letters. There is not one scrap of testimony that exists from anyone who ever knew Jesus, before or after he died. Also, no one knows how the disciples died. The stories of martyrdom attributed to them are church tradition, not historical facts. There are also NO extra biblical sources supporting the gospel accounts. Historians like Tacitus and Josephus were merely writing down what early Christians were saying they believed about Jesus. This is just more smoke and mirrors from brain washed apologists trying to brain wash others>> <<@the_alchemy_method says : Now was Frank taking notes or was he texting on messenger? 😂 they’re absolutely spot on about the gospel here>> <<@jenna2431 says : Had I seen the risen Messiah, I would have definitely written it down to preserve it. NONE OF THEM DID. We have ZERO eye-witness reports. We have Paul saying he had a vision, but he has ZERO corroboration. The biblical standard is two or three witnesses. People supposedly standing around Paul didn't see or hear a thing by his own admission. Paul is suspect to start with simply BECAUSE he was a contemporary of "Jesus" and would have been in Jerusalem among the religious at least three times a year for the feasts. He had every opportunity to interact with him, or at least hear from eye-witnesses who had. Never mentioned that in his letters. He always comes back to that super-special vision that ONLY he had because he was so extra special and anointed, obviously. It doesn't work that way.>> <<@codywhitaker8620 says : Hello Mr Turek o hope you're doing well this holiday season. I was wondering of you'd help me answer a question because I'm not certain I could ever attend seeing you at a college as I'm not a student. When Peter denies Jesus three times would that in the moment be considered apostasy?>> <<@SMNR777 says : Some people won't believe until God says it's time, even with God coming to the world in human flesh and performing miracles didn't convince a whole lot of people to the point of them crucifying him for even suggesting such a notion..>> <<@sierraclark6129 says : “If you declare with your mouth “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). Now is the time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon. Tomorrow isn’t promised.>> <<@devanshroyal8372 says : Completed the book by Gary and Mike. It was a great read.>> <<@Introversitive says : I don't know if you can use the fact that the apostles went to their death believing the gospel as evidence for biblical truth. As a Christian I do believe the gospel and I believe every account of the apostles but an atheist can argue that muslims also believe their religion is true and they also will go to their death believing in the koran. I am not siding with the atheists on this one, but I think all the other reasons for the truth of the gospel hold much more water than the fact that the apostles died for what they believed which is a proof that it is the truth.>> <<@NewCreationInChrist896 says : 1 Peter 3:15 🎁 “But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you. But respond with gentleness and respect,”>> <<@Nocturnal1988 says : The truth is nobody knows what happens after we die, Do we get resurrected into a Heavenly realm, Hellish realm, a sort of in-between realm like purgatory? Do we reincarnate until we have learned all the lessons we need to learn and then go to nirvana? Do we go to a Buddha land? Do we just not exist anymore like before we were born? Nobody knows, It's comforting to think that life exists after we pass on but we really have no clue what happens, We just believe we know the truth when in fact nobody knows, Not even those who have passed may know because they may no longer exist or they are asleep until the end comes, Nobody knows.>> <<@tremontefr5617 says : 80 k people lived in Jerusalem, if he rose it would have been no doubt.>> <<@fredcourtney03 says : I love what you do. I lost my faith for a time due to scientific arguments from people I looked up to. You’re channel has definitely helped me in getting back to faith. I wanted to say keep it up! Please? You never know who, when, or where you might reach someone. I have been a member quite a while now but I just wanted to give you a POB. Thanks. 👊>> <<@ta3p-theannex3project84 says : Well we learned that believers believe. 🤔 and carsellers sell cars. 😇>> <<@darkeen42 says : How about ever gospel contradicts the others on regards to the reserection>> <<@Paulthored says : I applaud the fact that when discussing Bart Erhman, it's presented as a predisposition against supernatural evidence, rather than the Religious belief derived from Atheism/Secularism. Have a Great Christmas & a Wonderful New Year!>> <<@rolandwatts3218 says : I really doubt that the bias problem is necessarily on the side of Ehrman as opposed to Frank and Mike. If both Frank and Mike have completely fallen in love with Jesus and both believe that if they upset Jesus in any way then eternal damnation in hell possibly awaits them, then can they be unbiased when it comes to considering the evidence for the resurrection? On the other hand, if Ehrman is no longer in love with Jesus because he now believes that Jesus died 2,000 years ago, and he also believes that hell does not exist, then is he far less likely to be biased in his understanding of the data than either Frank or Mike? Frank and Mike believe they have far too much to lose if they upset the object of their love, namely Jesus. They fear upsetting their love. They fear damnation and hellfire for upsetting their love. Ehrman has nothing to fear other than being wrong. But then, Mike and Frank also have that to fear. If readers look up the terms "The Angel of Mons" or "the miracle at Fatima" then they will learn of two things - how easy it is given the right circumstances for hundreds to thousands of people to see visions or how easy it is for stories about hundreds to thousands of people seeing visions can quickly form and then spread. This has nothing to do with accusations of lying. Apologists need to stop pretending that for skeptics, lying or legends are the only issues on the table. Our arguments are well thought out and often more nuanced than apologist talk might indicate.>> <<@blackhaze8233 says : The worst objection to Christianity and God is........ Well basically anytime a atheist opens there mouth everything that comes out of it is probably some of the corniest anti-scientific dogma trash thay can come up with.. Keep Duncan on these atheists Frank 💪🏻😂>> <<@kurtzcol says : your all delusional>>