<<@CrossExamined
says :
Source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HFMlAgrxro
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<<@Giraf1964
says :
For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. - Exodus 20:11 Sooo, the bible do say when heaven and earth was made.
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<<@ARRAM57
says :
You could also say it is a fantasy story written by men of that era.
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<<@TheCFCardmaker
says :
There are too many symbiotic relationships between plants and animals for it to have been thousands of years. Check out Kent Hovind’s videos. He has a lot of wisdom about creation.
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<<@aarronwilson5647
says :
We don't take it 'hyper' literal, just literal.
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<<@bogusphone
says :
It's simple. Verse 1 is declarative. "God did it." Verse 2 and following is the decomposition thereof. "Now let me tell you how." Think about an iconic figure like Michael Jordan. "He is the greatest basketball player ever." "He did this and that. He set this record."
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<<@tudragens-lair
says :
People all misinterpret the first of the Bible. Apparently, I'm the only person who knows the best interpretation.
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<<@JohnFairchild-n3h
says :
Somebody brought up the thought - why did God take so long? In six days . God could have spoke everything into existence in a split second if He wanted to . The six and seven day pattern is done for a reason .
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<<@JohnFairchild-n3h
says :
Exodus 20:11 I guess that explains Genesis 1 , Frank
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<<@freedomsgladiator1403
says :
I choose the Jesus way, you cannot separate each line of the Bible to ignore the context - he said creation occurred in six days in Exo 20:11. Mark 10:6 Jesus says “—- in the beginning —-of creation—- God made them male and female”. Matthew 19:4-5, John 1:3, Col 1:16. And then when on earth he showed his miracle making power, turning water into wine, calming the storm. Brother. I’ll pray for you, he said repent AND believe. 🙏
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<<@mattwilson5092
says :
There is a serious problem with that Frank. Genesis records that all of the heavenly bodies were created on Day 4, they could NOT have been created before Day 1. Verse one is a summary statement about creation and verse two starts the description of that creation.
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<<@Draintheswamp888
says :
Genesis 1 tells of a very old earth read it carefully
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<<@MC-ry5mk
says :
No. “In the beginning” is time coming into existence. God created heaven (space) and the earth (matter). The bible then lays out how God organized things, taking six days to do it and resting on the seventh. Doubt genesis? God wrote that he did with His finger on stone in exodus. He included the time scale given to a people who would understand that time scale. If you doubt that time scale, you’d have to doubt every timescale in the torah.
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<<@UndefinedIntel
says :
I think it’s likely than one of the OEC is true, perhaps the Era version. Evolution, specifically macroevolution, can’t be true tho. At least not for man. There’s no way of being consistent with the Bible and saying we slowly came from monkeys, and weren’t specially created by God. You can be a Christian and believe in macro evolution, but you can’t be consistent logically. Would mean we would’ve died many times over before the fall, which the fall is what introduced death to humans. Macroevolution would mean there was more than 1 fall, or that nobody else sinned, ever, until Adam and Eve did. Or lastly, it would mean God created most of mankind in an already fallen state, which is heavily contradictory to the Bible.
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<<@dondavidson3440
says :
Well, just to throw something else into the works. God created all things, and all of his creation points to Him. So therefore He created the science we use to look at His creation. However, when we put the created higher than the Creator, our “science” then becomes just another form of idolatry. Then, as stated in Isaiah 44, God will evenutally close the eyes and hearts of the idolaters so that they may NOT see and understand! Also in the New Testament it is written that what we see (Our physical world) is temporary (false) but that which we don’t see ( the spiritual) is permanent (real). Remember, we battle not against flesh and blood; but principalities and powers in high places. There are many things we see that are an illusion.
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<<@robertsamy948
says :
But Day 4 God created the sun and the moon. How is that possible? That's no sceptical science. The sun always is the beginning of the solar system.
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<<@Jacksonoaks8
says :
Genesis 1 imho is like revelation it’s a mix of literal and spiritual.
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<<@bryg3577
says :
It also says vegetation comes before the sun. What does this mean, the Bible can’t be read literally.
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<<@SDASermons
says :
Talk about tripping on the starting line... people out here changing the meaning of the first sentences of the Bible
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<<@SDASermons
says :
How can someone so smart miss some basic things. I still respect him, but in the subject of creation he is too loose. Scholars know that Genesis is written from general to more specific. Just like how God didnt create Adam three times. It just keeps expounding on it. Genesis 1:1 is like the thesis statement and then it breaks it down. What he is saying makes no sense, because he would be making the earth more than once.
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<<@BurnerTurner
says :
A day to God could be as a thousand years. He is boundless and timeless. We can't even comprehend. God very well could have created the dinosaurs as well. I think people take Genesis literally as some historical account. We don't know everything God does and why he does it. Or else we would be God.
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<<@millerkillpuppy
says :
The Creation story is as literal as it needs to be depending on the moment!!! Sure, people believed it was literal for centuries but Frank is a Scientist!!! Opps, I meant Sophist.
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<<@4DVOX
says :
The oft-quoted “~6,000 years” comes from post-biblical calculations (e.g., Archbishop James Ussher’s 17th-century chronology dating Creation to 4004 BC). That’s an interpretation, not a biblical verse.
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<<@starsnake8176
says :
I believe it was six ordinary days.
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<<@takenote8613
says :
You really need to do your studying. Verse 2 begins with a conjunction. Look at the original text. Verse 1 and 2 are connected along with verse 3.
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<<@captivedesk3168
says :
This is how Frank sells books to young a=earth and old creationists, he is so wishy washy you can pin down what he is claiming and then he sells you a book to not explain what he cant answer or it would cut into his profits
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<<@markpaladiy_notmyactualownname
says :
(1). The General, 'masculine' cosmos, and the Special, 'feminine' Earth (Gen 1:1); (2). The general Earth, and its special water (it's abiding maximal abundance of open liquid water (v. 2); (3). The Earth's general water, and its cycling (the water cycle, vs. 3-10); (4). The general water cycle, and its special...biological life (vs. 11-12); (5). General biological life, and its special...animal life (vs. 20-25); (6). General animal life, and it special...human life (plant/animal/mineral/physics=animal; vs. 26-29); (7). The general human, and the special...woman (Genesis 2:7-25). That's in Nature itself, and it is Genesis 1-2. So, if you fail to notice it it one, hopefully to see it in the other, and then in the one as well. If Adam and Eve did not each see this in Nature during their respective time with God prior to their meeting, then why is it in the pair of accounts? And, why is it in Nature if they failed to notice in Nature? The six days of God's Creation Workweek (Genesis 1:1-31) are the regular frame within which the Creation is brought from a bare minimum in vs. 1 to the climactic creation of humans in v. 27-30. This frame itself is exceeded by a seventh day, the Sabbath day, for rest (Genesis 2:2-3). But, what commonly is missed is that that same initial minimum bears the theme by which that same climax to the human beings is achieved all the way to the end of Genesis 2. Notice, the General-to-Special pairing theme in this seven-fold, life-centric, cosmology. It is, in fact, the same theme by which Adam and Eve each experienced the creation prior to their first night together. Specifically, by a normal, human-equality based reading, they each began their existence in the general ecology outside the garden, and then, by being brought through some of that general ecology, they each arrived in the special ecology which is the garden. Then, they also noticed the even more special ecology which was each other. Too, the Earth's own part in its water cycle is seen within the life-centric reading of Genesis 1:5, 8, 10: (1a) the day and (1b) night cycle (vs 4-5). (2) the Earth's precious envelope of air (v. 8). (3a) land and (3b) sea (9-10). In fact, the Genesis 1 account reports only of these five Divine namings. So, the account's reports of Divine namings are of those that, from a life-centric reading, are that of the Earth's own physical feminine systems. The account's famous first report of God's speaking is that of v. 3: 'God said, “Let there be light”'. But, the account does not report that God named this light. It reports only of God naming what seems to be these five of the Earth's own physical factors of its water cycle. Moreover, the water in Genesis 1 is presented in exactly a way that properly honors the human, woman-centric nature of marriage. For, the account does not overtly accord any right, to God, of the Earth's water. Specifically, vs. 1-2 do not specify that God created her wealth of water. It simply, and suddenly, grants that she has all that particular form of wealth herself already (v. 2).
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<<@felipeferrolli
says :
Born and raised Christian, but student of the sciences and passionate about learning and making questions. It always intrigued me how Moses, who despite having been told and inspired by God to write the Torah/Pentateuch, could have left aside some details we think are extremely important (at least these days), and the more I think about it, more questions arise, but it seems that, at the same time, it all points to the goal God had from the beginning, make us aware of His power and love, and give their people the chance to live with Him. But as God is unfailing, He can't take back what he "said", so humans could make choices of their own, which, in most cases, led us to where we are now. Divided, led by selfishness, egocentric desires, and all that feeds the self. The more I question and see the debate between science and faith, the more I see they actually complement each other, we just can't comprehend it now.
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<<@Socksfilledwithcreamcheese
says :
But it also says a day to God is like 1000 years so it was probably much longer that 24 hours
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<<@luccmell
says :
Where can i find the full class video?
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<<@highfive9835
says :
I'll tell you, I've played so many video games where I could ressurect, play with time, be invisible, etc etc. The idea that our universe's programmer can't do whatever He wants seems ridiculous to me.
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<<@caleb4thand10
says :
"Heaven and Earth" does not mean "universe." It's closer to "skies" and "land"
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<<@thedirtytruth7770
says :
Ok each day is ended with evening and morning of that day. This is important because God gives us the order of creation, the time frame inwhich he created, and the mechanism by which we can understand it. Secondly, he incorrectly says the earth and heaven was created on the first day. This is incorrect because the thing being created is always preceded with "and God said let there be something or let something happen" and followed with "and God saw that it was good. This always indicates the start and completion of the thing being created. So on day 1 the only thing created was light. This light is actually the origin of life as explained in John 1:4. On day 2 God created the firmament which he called Heaven. On day 3 God created the Earth and plant life. Then on day 4 God created the sun, moon, and stars. The reason the earth was without form and void on the first day is because the earth is only an idea. An example of this is a blank canvas of a painter. The picture is painted in his mind first and then put onto the canvas. Notice that Frank, and Noone for that matter, ever mention the water on day 1. This water is explained in Revelation 22:1 as the river of water of life. This flows from the thrown of God the Father and the Lamb. This is eternal water. This also means God didn't create something out of nothing because that violates the 1st law of thermodynamics where it is understood that energy cannot be created or destroyed only transformed. This agrees with special relativity where E=MC^2 says that energy and mass are equal and interchangeable and mass is the only requirement to make physical matter. Bottom line is the universe is young, God did not create out of nothing and both of these facts are backed up without question in physics and that means the big bang is completely defeated. I would love to debate Frank on this topic or anyone that up for it.
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<<@scottfw7169
says :
They way I look at Genesis 1 is all about the way it is formatted. Each day of creation work is described in what I'll call a 'container' that is bounded by "And God said" at its beginning and then "And there was evening and morning, the ____ day" at its end. The creation of the heavens and the Earth is verse 1 is presented outside of all of those 'day's work' containers and not within one of them. I take that as showing us that the heavens and Earth were not created during those six and seven days but rather the work described within those days was done to an already existing Earth. From that outlook arises the question of, okay, so, when was that "in the beginning"? Other than that it was in the beginning I find no Bible content which pins a date, a time, on that beginning, other than the formatting of Genesis 1 presenting that beginning as being outside of the six, seven, days of creation work described.
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<<@sly33
says :
God built a 15 billion year old Universe in 6 days 🙏🙌‼️
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<<@JackAtkins-xz5wi
says :
Get to Nunawading quickly
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<<@Hiimian-q6x
says :
Nothing happened between verse 1 and two. Earth was void and empty just like potters clay when it first is in the wheel. He created the everything from nothing and then he shaped it and filled it. Only evolutionists lies want to make people think the earth is older.
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<<@Elite_OverTheTop
says :
The lying Turek strikes back
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<<@WretchedSpoiledBrat
says :
Either way, it takes faith to believe or not believe
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<<@DeanDominoOfTheSierraMadre
says :
Gap theory means there was death and then God declared “everything that He had made” to be very good. Stop trying to make Gods word fit into man’s word. Even Richard Dawkins said that was hurting Christians case.
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<<@ChristianAlavija
says :
Formless and void means nothing its giving you more information than your allowed think about it in nothing with nothing creating (everything) at least what is permitted
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<<@RedBearFox
says :
The idea of 24 hour days was created WAY after Moses wrote the OT. I don’t understand why people look at today’s time measurement and assign it to creation. A day then was probably not 24 hours. And if you read through Genesis you can see it doesn’t seem like God snapped his fingers and created everything full grown and in bloom. Adam was created as an adult but that doesn’t mean everything was created fully grown.
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<<@flanderg123
says :
I think a god having someone write the creation of the universe in the language and knowledge level of the time is very telling. The beginning of god's book, where is the heavy hitting stuff? Where is the god level knowledge? I could make up a similar story. Other people had already written similar stories of creation. There is nothing uniquely useful aboutnthe account.
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<<@Skullcrusherrr6667
says :
It is written "and the evening and the morning were the second day"...... pretty sure it is young earth
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<<@try2t.v18
says :
God said “heaven” in the beginning.. not heavens
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<<@stormhawk31
says :
Love Frank, but that's a cop out answer.
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<<@billballoo7881
says :
If certain stories aren't to be taken literally then there are three issues for me. One there are MANY that claim the bible is the literal word of God and very much take the stories in the bible literally. Two, how is one supposed to know when to take things as stories, metaphors or truth? Three, if our place of eternity is of utmost importance than why be so convoluted in disseminating information?
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<<@extendedp1
says :
“With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day”. It could be a literal 7 days, or it could not be, does it really matter?
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<<@MrBugPop
says :
Sounds like BS to me either way!
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<<@gi169
says :
Thank you CE
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