<<@RachelEngelmeyer
says :
Yes, however, using an abomination called called Trump is not how to do it.
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<<@oddoutdoors
says :
"Congress shall pass no law respecting any institution of religion." That's very specifically saying that religion can not be a basis for law. If you were to act morally according to the Bible you would be a monster. This is why we don't base laws on religions.
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<<@davidevett724
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Something else that should be recognized about how the government is fulfilling prophesy in how they see the wrong as right and the right as being wrong. Welcome to the last days before Christ return, repent and be baptized and prepare the way for the time is at hand.
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<<@outdoorsman426
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Yet it was government and church officials that helped to ban cannabis. Something that was here since the beginning, was legal for thousands of years and God clearly stated was good for food. Genesis 1:29, Genesis 9:3, Romans 14:3 1 Timothy 4:1-5 clearly talks about the falling away, false doctrines of demons, people forbidding others to marry and commanding to abstain from foods that God has said was good, states not to prohibit something that God said was good. (Prohibition) like they tried with alcohol. 1 Timothy 4:4-5 clearly states nothing is to be refused if it is received with Thanksgiving for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. I am sick and tired of peoples legalisms just like the Pharisees did and Jesus Christ rebuked them repeatedly.
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<<@minnesotamonk
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Jesus was offered dominion over all the powers and principalities of this world and he rejected that offer to Satan's face. The Christian moral code does not exist to be enforced or imposed upon the world by means of worldly power. The Christian moral code exists for CHRISTIANS that they may bear compelling witness to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Those who believe we should impose the Christian moral code or "Biblical Values" upon the world are merely bowing down to Satan...
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<<@HerbieDOTnet
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But your religious view is for sure not mine. So keep religion for yourself. Mind the First Amendment.
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<<@jasong9774
says :
Those are all very good points I agree with 100%. On a related note, church leaders and commenters need to consider the 9th commandment when strawman'ing or otherwise twisting words when someone isn't saying the correct terms, but is trying to convey their concerns over two important issues to classic, constitutional conservatives and our founders. (which was debated rigorously) a. Where do you draw the line? b. Law is by definition, a code of morality. However, it is by man so should not be used as our law. God's law is what we focus on. Too many times, often well meaning Christians teach the law of man as the same or even higher level than God's law. When law then allows for something, many naturally argue it is moral. (edited to add the following clarification) Christians should teach the law of God which includes submitting to authorities and law where it does not conflict with God's commandments. God's law is his heart and comes from it and a believer will judge angels, so should be able to divorce their pettiness and pride and carefully consider their judgement. When this is taught and modeled, the flock will naturally seek God before blindly accepting man's law. This also thus forbids the petty attacks like calling others that have a different reading as "wolves in sheep's clothing" before even trying to engage in a debate. Let all be judged by God. When this topic is brought up, in my experience at least, fire from the hip responses flair almost as bad as the tempers. Very few sober minded, cool heads prevail. (that does not mean the over self-confident, stoic mask and cherry picked arguments plus ad hominem attacks)
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<<@beefsupreme4671
says :
Well said
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<<@jjevans1693
says :
FRANK IS A FOOL WE DON'T NEED YOUR SKY DADDY TO TELL US RIGHT FROM WRONG.
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<<@annemorency3317
says :
Well stated Dr.T 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👌🏾👍🏾🫶🏾
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<<@vendingdudes
says :
This is exactly right. How so many people get it wrong is beyond me.
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<<@willhunting8733
says :
All laws legislate morality…I don’t know what rock in the us this guy lives under, but I’ve watched laws be drawn up to oppress the poor to the benefit of the wealthy and elected leaders many times. I’m a Christian, but suggesting that gov’s legislate morally is a gross misrepresentation of the workings of society. Stand up for righteousness’s sake rather than pretending everything is peachy!
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<<@GreatBehoover
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I remember John Kerry saying "I will not legislate morality" I was like...🤔🤔🤔🤔😳😳😳😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Name one law that ISN'T due to morality!🤣🤣🤣
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<<@ace_of_spades4801
says :
I don't exactly agree with separation of church but I do think this saying applies here against frank: "Lawful doesn't mean moral"
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<<@brianandersen1629
says :
This time, Frank has gone off the deep end. For those of you who want to deny the separation's existence in the Constitution, I want you to consider the level of education you have in law. You don't get to say it isn't there because you don't want it to be. This is just like slavery in the bible. Christians want to twist it and does something it isn't. Save your comments and responses to this. I've heard a gamut of lousy excuses. The same type of lousy excuses are being provided for the denial of separation of church and state in our constitution. Lawyers have cases on this premise throughout the entire history of the United States.
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<<@davidlenett8808
says :
So when does Frank send homosexuals to a penal colony, or, if he follows his God's law, when does he make it a capital offense. Also, will we be bringing back slavery?
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<<@terryaucoin4708
says :
I agree! Lets make a religion illegal to teach until its proven.
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<<@HonorKnight
says :
At this point Christian Churches should rule the state. Especially California. Tired of seeing these Gays put rainbows on crosses and Flags. Tired of them walking around all Willy nilly.. we need structure and discipline. Law and order. Look at SF.. it’s ridiculous.
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<<@robertjordinelli3041
says :
You're trying to push your religion on everyone.
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<<@dalex60
says :
As immoral as most Christians are, why bother? If all it takes is accepting Jesus as god to be saved, then morals / morality are non-issues! Christianity is a garbage religion!!!
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<<@jamesw4250
says :
Shouldn't legislate either morality or religion. Yet this is what Christians are attempting to do in many states. Red states.
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<<@MrGordonbrett
says :
Every *honest* person is trying to do that. Hard left right now isn’t trying to legislate their morality, they care about power and power alone. They would have their enemy jailed for the thing they do day to day
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<<@tunacan6166
says :
The Seven Tenants of the Satanic Temple are more ethical than anything in the bible.
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<<@itsJPhere
says :
What if the things you want to legislate lead to more suffering and death? Abortion is one example. You want to ban abortion, and that leads to women suffering and dying.
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<<@prismaticlightpods6698
says :
The following of Jesus is not a religion, as it is faith that draws you closer to Jesus. Religion is not faith-based as faith requires love.
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<<@stephenkaake7016
says :
its legal to kill me, no one cares
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<<@chrisminblkdiamond
says :
If mankind was inherently good. There would not be any laws to coerce him to not commit evil acts.
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<<@noneyabidness9644
says :
If you don't legislate your morality, another will legislate theirs. That's how it works.
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<<@55Quirll
says :
You can't legislate mortality Frank, it was tried against alcohol and it failed. Leave morality to the individual.
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<<@somerandom3247
says :
ill pass on christian morality thanks. Slavery, stoning people to death, murdering entire towns, no thanks....
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<<@katamas832
says :
But the morality you are trying to legislate is based on your religious beliefs, not in any concrete principles and well thought out moral systems. Just "God says it in the Bible so it is moral/immoral"
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<<@ApaX1981
says :
No frank. We reason to why we ought to do stuff. We think about it. Unlike you.
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<<@maryblushes7189
says :
Exactly!
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<<@derekardito2032
says :
Legislate religion out of existence and you will end up with morality, Iceland, Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Japan are proof that no religion promotes morality, the most Christian country in the modern world, the USA is the immoral nation in the modern world, societies decide what and what is not moral, not immoral religions.
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<<@confusingdot
says :
As someone who holds a more libertarian view, there's a part of me that's legislating a baseline of morality, but the rest is set to allow for people to discover that morality on their own. I don't think the US government should be legislating all morality but should be giving the freedom and liberty to search for it.
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<<@TheContrarian32
says :
“The separation of church and state isn’t in the constitution “ I see Turek reads the constitution like he reads the Bible 👍🏻
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<<@rockhead1731
says :
Trying to legislate morality based on a Christian God is precisely why we have separation of church and state Just as you Christians wouldn't want to have your morality legislated by a Muslim extremist I have no desire to have my morality legislated by you Christians. As an expat who has lived in Muslim countries that have Sharia law, there were times that I was truly in fear for my life for just being a non-muslim yet that's exactly what you're trying to do to America
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<<@toddmiller7876
says :
Whose morality. Treating others, and loving others is easy. If you know you are fallen as well. If you pick and choose, that's the problem.
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<<@matthewscott3727
says :
Dr. Turek you have helped me keep my faith and keep it strong! Also because of your willingness to teach, I have been able to plan many powerful seeds. Thank you Dr. Turek! I am very appreciative for your heart to love and to teach truth!
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<<@gi169
says :
Thanks CE👍👍👍
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<<@jamesbarringer2737
says :
“The laws of Men do not make for God’s righteousness.” Sure, be involved in politics, but I can’t think of anything where the contribution of a typical individual is more meaningless. You can have a profound impact on your family, in your community, in your company or on your job. But unless politics is your job, involvement about national level politics is worrying and spending your time on something that in plain reality you’re simply wasting your time on. If you are going to spend your time in this way, it makes more sense to focus on the Gospel than politics. Even if laws work in changing behavior, which I don’t concede they do in a positive way, you’ve addressed a symptom and not the cause. The Gospel addresses the true cause, and is the true cure.
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<<@Jerryman1158
says :
Fun fact - the separation of church and state is to protect the chuch from the state, not the other way around. Many other religions have been granted similar rights. Everyone has a worldview and everyone has a right to advocate their worldview.
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<<@Bomtombadi1
says :
Lol separating church and state means you don’t get to impose your religious beliefs on policies. What a snake in the grass
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<<@electricspark5271
says :
Atheists: rrrreeeeeee
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<<@anguschiggins2161
says :
Except, that we don't want Christian morals Frank which is exactly what you want based on the voices in your head. Not a fan of murder, genocide, slavery like in the Bible. Also not a fan of you picking and choosing what you deem moral from the Bible. Where is your efforts to legislate the banning of eating shellfish? Fishing industry might have something to say about that. Oh but let's target the LGBTQ community - it says so in the Bible. We will not be bullied by Christians - period.
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<<@elbertsorrell8394
says :
AMEN!
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<<@NewCreationInChrist896
says :
Morality yes because murder, theft, a liar, and all the other sins aren’t subjective. Don’t sear your conscience. Romans 2:15 “Which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;”
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<<@Gek1177
says :
We can't allow the freedom of individuals to be strangled by religious beliefs. We have to make moral laws that emphasize freedom and liberty rather than laws which reflect the beliefs of one religion.
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<<@johnperry-nx3gl
says :
The separation of church and state IS in the Constitution. Read the First Amendment and apply a little logic and common sense to it.
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<<@sotl97
says :
And they shouldn't be told to shut up and go to the back of the room.
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