Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING says : An apologist claiming that people are "side stepping" is hilarious>> <<@herbertjohnibarreta1224 says : I dont agree at all>> <<@herbertjohnibarreta1224 says : Even Lot offered his daugthers, they still choose to be homosexuals!>> <<@herbertjohnibarreta1224 says : They are trying to fit thier reason to justify thier sin as not sin. Its not hospitality issue it was a homosexuality issue... excuse me>> <<@reluctantapologist says : Hey! Follow up question: what about the people who say it was for the sin of rape / gang rape and not homosexuality?>> <<@jaketripp7934 says : If you took military equipment and weapons to when Sodom was around and just started slaughtering people. You would still not do a dent as God did with his power.>> <<@frankcardano4142 says : I’ve never heard this other interpretation before. Jeez. It must be awful to be a committed believer in an ancient old book.>> <<@zeroch1ll150 says : Sound is gone 7 26 23>> <<@dannytrejo9976 says : Lgbtq mafia needs to be destroyed>> <<@gorillaz_jbi says : You’re in a conversation about the Bible and homosexuality and someone says to you, “God didn’t punish Sodom and Gomorrah for homosexuality. He punished them for inhospitality, promiscuity, and sexual violence.” What would you say? In the book of Genesis, God sent angels in the form of men to visit the town of Sodom and the home of a man named Lot. When the men in the town learned about the visitors, they descended on Lot’s house and attempted to rape the visitors. Soon after, Sodom was destroyed. For millennia, this story has been understood as a story about God’s punishment of sin. Including the sin of homosexuality. In fact, the word sodomy comes from the town of Sodom. But some now argue that this story has been misunderstood. They claim that God’s punishment of Sodom had nothing to do with homosexuality, but was instead punishment for inhospitality or promiscuity. If you hear this argument, here are a couple of things to remember. First, the context of Genesis makes the meaning of the Sodom story clear. In Genesis 19:5, we read that the men of Sodom said, “Bring them out to us, that we may KNOW them.” Here, the Hebrew word YADA is translated “to know” which is understood to mean to have sex. But some now claim that this is a mistake. They suggest that “to know” has a platonic meaning. Now here’s the problem with this argument. Just a few verses later, Lot uses the same word “YADA” in Genesis 19:8, “I have two daughters who have not KNOWN a man.” Now, this can’t possibly mean that Lot’s daughters hadn’t MET a man before because the same chapter tells us that Lot’s daughters were engaged. It’s clear that the phrase “to know” (YADA) is being used in a sexual sense to say that they were virgins. Now in light of how the word YADA is used elsewhere in Genesis 19, it’s not reasonable to suggest that the men of Sodom were just “looking to chat” with the visitors. Their intentions were clear and God didn’t like it. Second, other scripture confirms the connection between Sodom and homosexuality. Some claim that references to the story of Sodom in other parts of the Bible don’t mention homosexuality. Suggesting that it isn’t really part of the story. For evidence, they cite the prophet Ezekiel who said the following when talking to Israel, “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed, and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy (Ezekiel 16:49).” There’s no mention of homosexuality in this quote. Does this mean that God was ONLY angered by their lack of generosity? No! And here’s how we know. One verse later, Ezekiel says about Sodom that quote, “They were haughty and DID AN ABOMINATION before me (Ezekiel 16:50).” The phrase “did an abomination”, is a direct reference to Leviticus 20:13 where this exact phrase originated as part of a direct condemnation of homosexual behavior. It says, “If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.” Rather than distance the story of Sodom from homosexuality, Ezekiel actually makes a direct connection. Whether someone cares what the Bible says about anything is a separate issue. But on the issue of homosexuality, the biblical position is clear and consistent. So next time someone tells you that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah has nothing to do with homosexuality, remember these 2 things… 1. The context of Genesis makes the meaning of the Sodom story clear. 2. Other scripture confirms the connection between Sodom and homosexuality. If you care about scripture, everything points in the same direction.>> <<@ryanrockstarsessom768 says : Thank you>> <<@beaualbertine7905 says : lol God killing people for bad manners is preferable than Him killing people for homosexual behavior apparently 😒>> <<@deniss2 says : Well perhaps you'd manage to win over some homosexuals if you just agreed with the Bible. Ezekiel 16:48As surely as I live, declares the Lord GOD, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did as you and your daughters have done. 49Now this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed, and complacent; they did not help the poor and needy. 50Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them, as you have seen. You see, I'm ex-homosexual too. I know it is wrong (yes, sin). But your argument about Sodom and even the term sodomy is wrong. This was NOT why God decided to destroy Sodom. He told Abraham about his plans to do so even before this event. If those people had gone to Lot's door just wanting to rob and beat up the angels, you wouldn't have much to say about it. But this particular sin is so convenient to you because it hides the fact that every other sin is equally ungodly and abominable. Though I have been allowed back in a church, my background is an almost automatic disqualification from any form of ministry. But I can tell you that the church consists of sinners saved by grace, ALL of us. In Judges 19, there is an almost exact parallel to Sodom's story which occurred in the tribe of Benjamin. The Israelites almost killed off the entire tribe because of what they had done to the Levite's concubine. But somehow this story isn't so well attested by those preaching against homosexuality. I find this curious. Perhaps, because it wasn't God who had executed the revenge? There are much better arguments against homosexuality, and Sodom simply isn't one. But there are a plethora of other heinous sins that deserve equal condemnation. Homosexuals should simply be lovingly informed that their sexual immorality is condemned equally with every other form of sexual immorality, and given the opportunity to repent. If half the time was spent finding a way to help these gay people overcome this sin, and what amounts to a mental disorder, rather than shunning them or subjecting them to gay therapy (which was almost universally ill informed mental torture), you might have some success against the problem. The church's approach is however void of love and simply amounts to persecution. I tell you as a fact that the church will face greater judgement in this respect than most gay people will. You drove them away, as surely as the sheep Yeshua spoke about were lost by the shepherds (note that this parable was directed towards the Pharisees who were complaining that He was eating and drinking with sinners). I speak out strongly against homosexuality directly to gay people, not to the holy huddle of self-righteous church people, but you'll probably condemn me with them for defiling myself with sinners. I don't mind that, but my greatest concern for people being lost is not those, but the very people who go to church every Sunday and eagerly point fingers at others...😢>> <<@christianknickerbocker604 says : Well, they'll just make up whatever they want regardless of the actual text.>> <<@beautifullbanksfashionshoe8970 says : Homosexuality is an abomination in eyes of God it is disgusting to see a man with makeup on>> <<@pblogger9065 says : Ugh, your judging people based on a first-century book that was written by people who knew nothing about how the world actually works. Homosexuality occurs in all species. Your hatred is pathetic and backward and bad for the world. YOU are the evil we need to rid ourselves of, not a couple of dudes kissing.>> <<@BarrakDraconis says : I'm sorry, you're saying there's an interpretation where it makes _sense_ for Lot to offer his daughters to a mob at the door? And Sodom was destroyed because there were homosexual people in it, not because there were people who apparently thought it was okay to form a rape mob. And the folks who disagree with you are the crazy ones?>> <<@lightofathousand says : Or, it could have been because it was a generally wicked place and the rampant homosexuality and the violation of hospitality were just two of the things that made it so awful.>> <<@c4binF3v3r says : This God is beyond immoral. While having foreknowledge of the results, he purposefully created a universe where he has to kill/punish time and time again. From the garden days and beyond. A truly amazing superior being!>> <<@marco15x15 says : Exactly, biblical god is homophobic and sadistic, and more other adjectives>> <<@dannyred8668 says : Well said.>> <<@alfredoluna9698 says : here is the debate.. if l bring up the Bible up to provide evidence..and the Chinese bring up his book. and the Muslims their book. etc..India there's..so forth..who's are people to believe? let's just go with our thoughts and beliefs and not try to change people by what it says in our book. instead let our actions our behavior.. be our bible.. because blacks and Mexicans are being treated ridiculous and some are being stopped for no reasons .. then there the ones that being shot by those who were the badge..>> <<@EddieM1994 says : So you're completely misrepresenting that interpretation to say it's about "inhospitality" and not the fact that the people of Sodom were going to RAPE the guests? But then, if the church hated rapists instead of gay people, you'd have to clear out all of your major authority figures.>> <<@MorningtonCrescent says : Your god endorsed rape, incest, slavery, genocide and infanticide. It must be true - it's in your Bible.>> <<@postwick says : Arguing over whose version of ancient myths is correct. Smart.>> <<@titahchumbuin9728 says : Powerful!>> <<@johnchambers9836 says : Ah you all pick out the passages you want from a book of nothing Seriously all of you just get a life>> <<@robertramsey653 says : Thats just ridiculous to suggest a lack of hospitality to the guests was the reason for sodoms destruction. The angels were there to take Lot out of the city because judgement had already been pronounced. So that narrative doesnt hold up even a little.>> <<@stormykeep9213 says : You can visit the sites to this day. And like the Bible said, they would never be inhabited again but remain as a reminder of God's judgement. The cities are nothing but ash, and you can find the brimstone laying all over the area, yet no secular archeologist will go there because they want to willfully believe it's not true.>> <<@FISHINHEALS says : Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed: not because of homosexuality alone, but because of over all sexual immorality and immorality in general. Homosexuality, namely clarified in Romans, and Jude. God did away with Sodom and Gomorrah because there was not a righteous person residing there. They were perverse, sick criminals. If you're in Christ, it doesn't matter what Sodom did. A person's sexuality won't save them if they don't have faith in Jesus sacrifice, so these topics are irrelevant, honestly. Being straight doesn't save a person.>> <<@rongopaihiku369 says : Hospitality 😂 they tried to force themselves on Gods Angels.. forcing there sinful ways on others ,>> <<@coldjello8436 says : I thought the revisionist would have suggested that there was a shortage of an ancient version of Preparation H.>> <<@Rabit_3A says : Ezekiel 16:49 says: “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy." literally don't know what else to say other than yeah it was, as for Lot's daughters idk, but even if its not about hospitality it still doesn't make sense for it to be about homosexuality cause its literal rape, like what does rape have to do with homosexuality?>> <<@AutonomousVII says : Before I had any understanding of Gods Word and was saved I fell for some of these arguments. The Bible explicitly makes it clear homosexuality is a sin. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV>> <<@Demonoicgamer666 says : Homosexuality was only one of the reasons sodom was destroyed not the only reason>> <<@vigneshiyer4334 says : Super evil... Make me want to puke in reverse.... It is that disgusting>> <<@TheONE-xk7xe says : Legend says gay revolutionist theory left the hospitality department after listening to this argument 😂>> <<@senorsenior9546 says : How do they justify against scripture that says homosexuals will have their place in the lake of fire?>> <<@stormhawk31 says : Honestly, although it WAS homosexuality, it was a LOT more than homosexuality. Sodom and Gomorrah were into some SERIOUS sick sexual immorality. Use your imagination. Or, rather, DON'T use your imagination. But, judging by what it says in 2 Peter and Jude, they were also engaging in the sin of Genesis 6 that led to the Flood. Which would also explain how the nephilim were on the Earth in those days, "AND ALSO AFTERWARD".>> <<@mkurosh says : When Lot offered his daughters he knew this group of people is too gay to take him up on his offer. He did it to show his guests how deeply fallen his city is, that they prefer men over girls sexually.>> <<@Gek1177 says : Why is there so much homophobia in Frank's audience?>> <<@soundmattersuk says : Both this clip AND gay revisionists are wrong here. Ezekiel 16:49-50 confirms why Sodom was destroyed. Yes, detestable acts are listed, but the former parts of the verses are the most important. Hospitality in desert culture, is a concept with far deeper meaning than in Western culture. It's not just about offering your guests a nice cuppa.>> <<@noneyabidness9644 says : "clobber passages" do not exist. Factual passages of the destruction *deserved* for sin, does exist. Not just for homosexuality, but for all sin.>> <<@frederickgregg1881 says : NO Audio!!??>> <<@SJ200o0o says : Exactly 💯>> <<@toddmiller7876 says : Wow, have you even ever read the bible.>> <<@magatism says : Lot offered daughters, they wanted sons...>> <<@frankgriffin6096 says : yes. homosexuals are PROTECTED FROM CRITICISM. THEY call us homophobe...lol..phobe refers to fear of...im NOT afraid of them . their problem isnt with us homophobes but with GOD we take His view. Repent from homosexualty .>> <<@barrythomas9571 says : Spot on my friend. What do gay revisionists know, nothing, questioning God's word to justify their own sin.>> <<@isaacmarshmallow8751 says : As a straight guy who couldn't care less about using Sodom and Gomorrah for any agendas, the "hospitality" interpretation fits in very very well with Matthew 10:40-42, 25:31-46, Mark 9:39-41 as a case study example. Lot invites two guests into his house, makes a feast for them and washes their feet. What the Sodomites did was completely the opposite, going Prison style domination on the guests to their city. Purely wicked rapists. Kinda worse than the "goats". Lots offering his daughters wasnt good, but in times of Crisis, the ones holding the inheritance(s) were the ones prioritised for saving. Its not good, but just a bi-product of the days standards. But this is why Lot is only ever called a righteous man and not a good man. Hes a very mixed bag of an individual. If ones sexual proclivities ALONE were the MAIN issue of the passage, then Lot would certainly have died due to his later incestuous relations with his daughters (Leviticus 18:7, 10, which verse 27-29 also calls a detestable thing worthy of death penalty) Sodoms issue was much broader than this one thing. Lesson: Get into the habit of being hospitable to all, because you never know who you'll be entertaining (Hebrews 13:2). Genesis 18:20 says the cry of complaint reached God. A phrase repeatedly shown to be connected to violence (Genesis 4:10, 2 Kings 9:26, Isaiah 26:21, Revelation 6:9-11, see also Genesis 6:11,12 Numbers 35:33, Revelation 11:18). The Sodomites weren't under Gods covenants, however they did owe him a life-debt since God used Abraham to save them 25 years prior. Did they change their ways? No they got worse. So God was well within his rights to use them as a warning example. 2 Peter 2:8 says it was lawless deedS plural. Their Prison style rape behaviour is just the latest expression of a long line of random acts of violence. Its not simply a matter of homosexuality (thats an oversimplification and if anything it would be bi-sexual behaviour right? Since those men had children and therefore wives), Sodoms sin was much broader and bigger than that. Lot is an example of Hospitality, Sodom an example of excessive gross inhospitality (pure violence towards guests to a city).>>