Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@TomBilyeu says : WARNING: I will never ask for your contact info in the comments section, that is someone impersonating me!>> <<@epone3488 says : Instead of saying destructive or suicidal belief structures, as your "tool" for thinking of these 'beliefs' I would suggest a more helpful tool to use may be; "maladaptive" vs "adaptive". On Konstantin's point re Thomas Sowell its the "constrained vs unconstrained vision" one accepts that there are variable real constraints of every various type and the other vision assumes that the constraints are essentially non-existent and can be ignored. In essence its an abstraction issue; one vison abstracts away problems to achieving the vision. The other focuses on the impediments to achieve the vison (which can lead to analysis paralysis and stop the effort before it starts). I and others prefer a recognition of the impediments ... yet its also easy to see the appeal of disregarding the impediments in favour of the clarity of the vison... System theory and other realms of learning would suggest that small incremental changes are more achievable, lasting, sustainable and change management practice is another domain that supports this approach. These multi dispensary factors tend to suggest the constrained vison is easier to implement. what is not accounted for in either vison is entropy and chaos leading to "emergent" behaviours i.e.. unintended yet real outcomes that spontaneously appear along the way. These too need to be managed and due to the nature of these behaviours they are hard if not impossible to plan for or ameliorate. these things occur all the time in policy development as the 'system domain" has so many components. Ultimately you need a vison, a plan, execution of the plan in small interactable sections that grow towards the final form and trouble shooting along the way. This is extremely difficult to achieve successfully under the known constraints of time, budget and quality and that is when such constrains ARE acknowledged. The unconstrained vison is NOT working within the constraints mentioned or acknowledges them thinking a tabular rasa is the best starting point. Which doesn't exist in reality. Therefore the assumption is create the tabular rasa first in a 'revolutionary' way... then build the new vison whole cloth once the constrains are removed... which may or may not lead to the vison and inherently has no mechanism for managing emergent behaviour excepting reacting to circumstance. Depending on your ideological capture you may see one of the other as optimal.>> <<@phillipjohnson1459 says : Anyone defending this nonsense is outing themselves>> <<@888young2 says : The ads on this have been taken to a ridiculous extreme>> <<@ChínhChị-ChínhM-s9e says : Tom should not bother bringing people in for interviews bc he does most of the talking.>> <<@joshuajones1984 says : Bro you don’t think Jocko has the ability to group men to kill you? That’s literally what he did for a living>> <<@Dakot-p4q says : Let’s just focus on keeping male and female spaces protected for people who are biologically that sex, then focus on the policies that protect these people from discrimination, so that a man who wants to wear a dress can do so while using a male toilet without fear of being bullied or ridiculed.>> <<@Dakot-p4q says : Personality yes 100 sides of the dice, genitals and biology, 2 sides.>> <<@upliftmofoify says : we have evolved? That's news to me. Put a child to grow up in a cave or a jungle, let's see how much different it will become to the ancient men.>> <<@vmasing1965 says : Yea he's close. What's really inportant thou is WHY this happened? Why do we suddenly have this outbreak of chaos and absudity in the society? The answer is simple--the death of God (like Nietzsche worded it). The complete absence of traditional religion in the society (as an active, working influence) is the reason. It does not create a secular society, that's an illusion. Instead, it creates bunch of little pseudo religions. Those ideological bubbles then start behaving like truly hardcore religious cults. The explanation for this is quite obvious. Religion, any traditional religion, operates as a backbone of society. Without a backbone there's a short grace period, while the past influence of religion slowly fades away _(Cut Flower Effect),_ and once it's passed, the entire society simply breaks down and dies. Commits social _sepuku._ Doesn't matter which religion it is specifically, doesn't even need to be Christianity. Doesn't matter if you're personally religious or not either. We're all consumers of the stabilizing effects of the religion, the bulwark against chaos. We humans are not born with this ability inside us. We are born chaotic, and without balancing force outside us we inevitably end up with creating chaos around us. In the human society chaos is just another word for death and suffering. Which is the path we are on now. And most of us are too dumb to see the connection.>> <<@marcosolegariobaezlopez6615 says : For three hours, Bilyeu tries to explain the squaring of the circle; that's why it takes him TEN minutes to explain each of his progressive ideas; while Kisin takes ONE minute to destroy them with simple, direct words.>> <<@Tensooni says : On the AI topic, the part about desires is interesting. Hadn't thought of that. But the 2-3x smarter than a moron, but AI is billions of x smarter, i'm not so sure about. Firstly because it's never "1 guy" that makes any advances. We constantly build on top of what others built before us. I'm not smarter than Newton, but I know a hell of a lot more about the universe than he did. I take for granted many of the things he didn't know about, which would blow his mind. I think we also have many layers of this that we don't account for, when we factor in an AI. I think all of biological life has innumerous layers of this, call it evolution or whatnot, which we struggle to even begin quantifying. (A crazy example i remembered was watching single celled organisms solving the most efficient paths in mazes). AI will be just really good at the stuff we struggle with, maybe a billion times better at those, because we are hyperfocused at how bad we are at them. But it will struggle with the things we find hillariously simple. For the same reasons, I think if we at some point create super-intelligent AI, it will have some massive flaws.>> <<@MaxIronsThird says : A 160IQ isn't 2 times smarter than a 80IQ person, it's probably more like an exponential. Also AI currently is way way dumber than an 80IQ person, it's just super fast, with infinite memory and it can use any known structure/model/pattern to "create" which is more like it's regurgitating data in the most likely location to be the right one, bc its "brain" doesn't really work like an animal, people that know way more than me, say that these LLM are just predicting the next thing from all the data they consumed. It will take at least a few decades to get real AI, that is as smart as a human, maybe centuries, maybe never.>> <<@WilliamWatts-v5k says : You both broke the rules of logic multiple times in this conversation. The worse thing and the best thing in the company can't be the same thing. If you can't self assign your gender you can't self assign your alphaness. Both are feelings. Unfortunately I think you would have to slow down to catch it, which would probably be less entertaining for the mob.>> <<@WilliamWatts-v5k says : I'm always amused when the alpha debate comes into play. Do you guys have any idea what happens when a little "alpha" upsets a large "beta"? This conversation is ridiculous. You can call yourself a thing but that doesn't mean you are. When the rubber meets the road the larger man destroys the little man. There are weight classes for a reason. Shame on you both.>> <<@joemug4079 says : So. Can women be hyper-masculine?>> <<@NATO-SOCOM says : Power is being able to exert your will and nobody has the ability to stop you from doing that, for good or bad.>> <<@MM-hh2tp says : Wow K.Kisin! Yes! Here in 2025 but I have always agree that there is always someone/country who wants to be #1 and what it takes to be #1. It's a very harsh and sad reality that I have learned many years ago but it's the truth. I have always wished it were a different way but as history proves there is no such thing. Tom - I love your channel and learned some much - please keep up the great work!>> <<@Nyrb95 says : So many good points well done>> <<@lasikreiser561 says : I would describe this as long form shower thouughts🤣🤣>> <<@yevheniich says : Jesus, can you let your guest talk? Can you learn to use less words in your speech?>> <<@bryangallant8185 says : We never got rid of slavery. We just found it to be cheaper to in slaves people in the country's We were getting them from. This also stopped our slave countries' population from seeing how well we live compared to them. Making it easier to control them>> <<@KojiYamamoto-d6z says : Tom, I am sure that you are nice enough person. But clearly this is not a topic that you should be speaking about in any public forum. Please do not misunderstand. If you were taking a more Joe Rogan approach and honestly being inquisitive and seeking to understand more, that would be fine. But you trying to act that you have some unique perspective or insights on this issue was painful to watch. I do give you some credit as you recognized - at least on some level - that you were "new" to this topic, but if that is the case, you should have simply listened more and let Konstanin speak. With all due respect, he is light years ahead of you on these social issues.>> <<@Hanible says : it's not that they want to destroy Hamas, and Hamas is not the only faction fighting far from it, and it's not Israel vs Hamas, what they want to eradicate is Palestine, the objective is to end the lives of as many Palestinians as possible and occupy more of their land. the objective is to make the lives of the survivors as miserable as possible, so that they stop procreating, leave their land or perish in the biggest concentration camp ever conceived. This is the underlining grim reality of all of this. The Americans did this to their indigenous populations and Israel is doing the same thing, Germany wanted to become cowboys as well but they did it in the wrong continent. The fact of the matter is, what Germany did in Europe is nothing, France and England did far worse in Africa and parts of Asia. When the victims are black, Arabs, and south Asians it's acceptable, when they're white "Christians", it's not! This is the real squeamish part and both of you know it yet you refuse to articulate it!>> <<@BH-2023 says : Bruh... I swear listening to Tom spew his verbal diarrhea significantly lowered my IQ. Props to Konstantin for sitting there and taking it. I would have walked off less than an hour Tom's nonsense>> <<@lovefromthesun says : Your diatribes are screwing up your mission statement, Tom.>> <<@LvcaCalisthenics says : This is the most stupid conversation I ever seen>> <<@LvcaCalisthenics says : I can’t believe Constantin have some many things wrong>> <<@LvcaCalisthenics says : I can’t believe Constantin have some many things wrong with>> <<@LvcaCalisthenics says : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fUvyt50GEQ>> <<@Morgadinho301 says : Man or Woman is determined by a pathologist or archeologist. Everything else is a psychological condition that every person is entitled to. Then, Society will decide what to do in face of it...>> <<@seanb8163 says : Tom being rich gives me so much hope since hes gone so far without needing to learn how to organize his thoughts>> <<@bradwalton3977 says : How can a man know whether he feels like a woman? In order for him to know that, he must know what and how a woman feels, and how could he know that?>> <<@DUCATIPUNK says : Konstantin is indulging in straw man fallacy in his description of Modern Monetary Theory. It is NOT “code for as much money as we can print” this is just a second hand characterization from reading Twitter and not first hand MMT economist published material. In fact Randall Wray an MMT economist warned about inflationary consequences of giving stimulus checks during the pandemic to people who were employed earning $75 K and working from home. MMT’s boundaries for deficit spending are too much will cause inflation, too little is the cause unemployment . Always consult first hand publication rather than straw man tweets.>> <<@DUCATIPUNK says : Here’s a way to skip the Blah..blah of the dude in the baseball cap, use the ‘transcript’ mode to skip, you’ll be glad you did.>> <<@DUCATIPUNK says : Scary how the dude in te baseball cap is so full of himself,….but He wants to empower you. 😂>> <<@DUCATIPUNK says : Pure Gold:👇 “We have substituted competence for other things, when you do that what happens competence goes down, whatever you optimize for is what you get.” - Konstantin Kisin>> <<@jjgregory4844 says : Tom made a comment about taking on one trillion in debt in one month. I thought I’d throw in a statistic for some added dis-belief. 40% of the total US dollars created through out the lifespan of the USA were produced in the last four years . An expansion of the money supply, that when a contraction of the supply to make the needed corrections for are made, they are predicted to be more than three times the corrections made in 1929.>> <<@elisavelarde4410 says : People are literally DYING from unfettered Capitalism. PE firms have "disrupted" real estate, healthcare and other markets and are dehumanizing people down to the lowest price point for maximum billions in profit. Nobody gives a SHIT about the poor or the people not smart enough to contribute. Those people are shamed and their situation demonized. Close your eyes ... what do you want the world to look like? Open them, billionaires are running the country and you can't afford rent and food in the same month OR maybe you are the Uber equivalent of a nurse working for less than minimum wage in dangerous environments - your work determined by AI and algorithms. YEAH, that's the reality. I don't think "how the world is" is lost on a lot of us>> <<@alexandervanlohen4229 says : Kissin challenged and changed my worldview on many levels. He is an outstanding thinker who always gets straight to the point. As a German, I love that he doesn’t beat around the bush.>> <<@IamtheWV17 says : This is such a great example of the trans debate.... The pro-trans argument is enforcing such a rigid compliance to bullshit definitions of male and female. For all their screaming about gender norms, they seem to be the most obsessed with said norms.>> <<@Mikesvloglife says : Only can take about 20 min of this show anyone that speaks so highly of Trump has lost their way>> <<@Improvisingforfun says : This was a bad interview. Bad.>> <<@Improvisingforfun says : Tom, you're great but you need to focus more one the guest, and not how much you know. Ask them more questions than spilling knowledge out and then try to tie all that you said into your questions.>> <<@bobmonroe8841 says : Konstantine is so much smarter than Tom that I feel that it was painful for him to sit through such a long episode with TOM>> <<@joycedupuy8751 says : Omg shut up Tom!!!!!!!!>> <<@marioconnell114 says : Im exhausted by Tom Remained llistening as i love Konstantine but jeez thing its lucky he is so emotionally detached or he might have thrown a bucket of water over Tom to reel him in>> <<@diogomaia9522 says : No hate, just a open comment. At 1:28:26, every guy that is known and has a pod cast could be considerate influencial and has a "troop/influence" to get people around him. So the example you really wanted, is ironicaly some1 no one knows (therefore hard to point the example out (knowlage bias)) but is jacked up. witch would be a good example. Now if you ask a girl if money is important and the only example you give is guys with money and other guy with extreme money. Well, the some money guy (Half a milion bucks but a complete chad) vs jeff benzos or whatever. That is unfare.>> <<@akichler says : Constantine is not aggressive Tom is super feminine he was obviously raised by a single mother and he's more worried about what he's feeling than what he's thinking and that is a very dangerous place for a man to be at.>> <<@N0THlNG-2-C-H3R3 says : 1:51:19 you’re telling me Bruce Lee is not cool. The art of fighting without fighting is the art of preventing from being hit. If you can avoid being hit, there’s no point of you even fighting back. At that point I would think Aikido can be extremely useful. But it takes extreme focus to get to that point.>>