<<@scuddyleblanc8637 says : The damage done by DEI is deeper than we imagined. When DEI is the focus, better qualified applicants are turned away from law schools, medical schools, pitot training, teacher training, air traffic controller training, firefighters training, police academies, etc. in favor DEI candidates.>> <<@mikelee9886 says : Well, reporting from the future. America has started turning it around, the UK is about to explode, but Canada has doubled down on all of it. Cultural Marxism, the proper name of DEI or “woke”, is just the introduction opportunity for full-blown communism>> <<@danielhanawalt4998 says : Thankfully, and very hopefully common sense is on it's was back. It may be the main reason some are objecting so vehemently President Trump. Some of his executive orders are the opposite of what the left wants. Welcome to 1984 if they have their way. DEI is like affirmative action on steroids.>> <<@Mr_T. says : 9 Problems with Jordan Peterson’s arguments against DEI (ChatGPT) ### 1. The Claim That DEI Discriminates Against "Heterosexual White Male Grad Students" - Reality: DEI does not aim to exclude white men; it seeks to correct systemic imbalances. Qualified white men are still hired and promoted in academia. - Flawed Premise: Peterson assumes that before DEI, hiring was purely meritocratic. In reality, systemic biases historically favored white men. - Misuse of Data: He provides no evidence that his students were objectively the best candidates but were rejected solely due to DEI. - Irony: If his claim were true, then diverse candidates, historically overlooked, would now have a fairer shot—an argument for, not against, DEI. ### 2. "Universities Were Already Fair Before DEI" - Contradiction: He admits academia historically lacked enough BIPOC scholars, implying that existing systems weren’t as fair as he claims. - Research Says Otherwise: Studies show that hiring committees often unconsciously favor candidates who look like the dominant group (white men). - Meritocracy Myth: DEI doesn’t eliminate merit but broadens access to ensure diverse candidates with equal or greater qualifications aren’t ignored. ### 3. DEI Will Create "Unqualified" Researchers - Baseless Claim: No evidence supports the idea that DEI reduces qualifications. - Example of Flawed Logic: He equates diversity with incompetence, ignoring that many top scholars from marginalized groups have historically been excluded. - Contradiction: He acknowledges that there aren't enough BIPOC candidates in the pipeline, which suggests the need for more inclusion in education—not less. ### 4. "Bias Training Is Useless" - Misinterpretation of the Research: The Implicit Association Test (IAT) is controversial, but the existence of implicit bias is well-supported. - Straw Man Argument: While not all bias training is effective, that doesn’t mean all efforts to reduce bias are invalid. - Selective Quoting: He cites the IAT's critics but ignores that it still correlates with discriminatory behavior, even if imperfectly. ### 5. "DEI Is a Radical Leftist Agenda That Destroys Competence" - Slippery Slope Fallacy: He moves from a discussion about fair hiring to a sweeping claim that DEI undermines competence everywhere. - False Equivalence: He compares efforts to increase representation to authoritarian political purges, which is misleading. - Contradiction: If DEI were truly about incompetence, institutions that adopt it should be failing. Instead, many top institutions embrace DEI while maintaining excellence. ### 6. Hollywood's Diversity Efforts Are a Problem - Flawed Assumption: He assumes diversity in films = lower quality. No evidence supports this. - Historically Biased Industry: Hollywood has long favored white actors and stories; DEI aims to expand representation, not impose quotas on quality. - Irony: He argues for free market principles yet objects when Hollywood makes business decisions to appeal to a diverse audience. ### 7. DEI Is to Blame for Political Divisiveness - False Causation: He claims DEI causes division and even Trump’s rise, ignoring deeper socio-economic and political forces. - Irony: He criticizes DEI as divisive but supports culture war rhetoric that fuels polarization. - Oversimplification: Social justice movements existed before DEI and are not the sole cause of political shifts. ### 8. Putin's Criticism of Western Progressivism as Proof DEI Is Bad - Red Herring: What Putin thinks of DEI is irrelevant to its legitimacy. - False Equivalence: Putin comparing DEI to Soviet authoritarianism is misleading; DEI does not suppress free speech or force ideology. - Irony: Peterson, who claims to oppose authoritarianism, aligns with a dictator’s anti-progressive stance. ### 9. "CEOs, Artists, and Professors Are Cowards for Supporting DEI" - Ad Hominem Attack: Instead of refuting the principles of DEI, he insults those who support it. - False Choice: He presents DEI as a forced ideology rather than a business strategy that companies and universities adopt voluntarily. - Contradiction: He criticizes social pressure yet uses social pressure (shame and moral outrage) to push his own view. ### Final Thoughts Peterson’s argument against DEI relies on: - Straw man distortions (claiming DEI aims to eliminate white men from academia) - False equivalences (comparing DEI to Soviet-era repression) - Selective evidence (citing critics of bias testing but ignoring supporting research) - Contradictions (admitting systemic exclusion while claiming academia was already fair) His speech is more about stoking culture war outrage than making a sound, evidence-based case against DEI.>> <<@SunnyLikesCats says : I'm so looking forward to this DEI funeral Yeah! I know this is an old podcast Jordan but I am hopeful we/ the whole world of humanity are approaching the title of your podcast peice here, thank you so very much :)>> <<@MattSloanVMMP says : Honest truth, I love my boy JBP but I was hesitant towards this video - “This isn’t a good look dude, being against Diversity”…but you were several years ahead of the curve. I was afraid that it was all too large and entrenched to be opposed. The last couple months since Trump’s election have changed a lot though, and I see Hollywood and the internet shifting immediately. You helped lay some of the framework for massive cultural shifts happening right now. We’re lucky to be alive at the same time as you.>> <<@louislamonte334 says : Excellent video, Jordan! You are a Gentleman among men!!>> <<@whitebrownie2 says : I'm part of the Pride chamber of commerce in the US. I do identify as a lesbain. However, I'm not a far left. I was listening to a summit and one corporate owner was saying she was happy to hire more Latin women. I'm Latina myself but I had to ask the question that no one was asking. At what point do you think you're hiring because of superficial qualities and not what people's experience or they can provide in the workforce. It really took her a moment to answer the question>> <<@Dozier717 says : Scathing, just the way Dr. JP does well. He does many, many things well! My account is verified, by the way.>> <<@emilycarter2492 says : It’s now 2yrs later and everything JP stated has happened. Far left ideology is destroying Europe and the US. Canada has been decimated to a point that it may never recover. We must eliminate the rot in the education system and remove the monsters who are teaching and promoting racism, bigotry and sexism to our children. Matt Walsh’s documentary exposed the virulent hoax that DEI actually is & how much money the race-baiting activists promoting it make from their campaign of HATE. The Supreme Court ruled that DEI in university’s admissions is unconstitutional and we are finally seeing a rollback. There is a small light at the end of the tunnel, but we cannot allow ourselves to let any of this evil to slip by us. We must stand strong together, united against the hateful and dangerous activists and their equally nithful (malicious) allies.>> <<@richardnormantaylor6556 says : True , true !>> <<@spaceman5734 says : Love from ❤ Samoa 🇼🇸>> <<@nothingtoseeheremovealong says : I admire you so much. To have such courage in your convictions. It’s so refreshing to hear a person speak the truth without fear.>> <<@markhottman2652 says : Clinician Peterson- Thank You for leadership in Psychology. Grace and Peace to you, your Family, Community and Nation 🇨🇦🙏>> <<@brotherurth1625 says : Bravo sir, bravo.>> <<@Substantialstem800 says : Can’t find a job do to dei 😢>> <<@ireneeriiter says : FROM ATLAS SHRUGGED DAYS TO ANASTASIA BOOKS BY VLADIMIR MERGE AND EDGAR CAYCE PROPHESYING THAT "OUT OF RUSSIA WILL COME THE HOPE OF THE WORLD" I HAVE BEEN ON BOARD AND WHAT PUTIN IS DOING IN THE UKRAINE IS FOR THE CHILDREN AND HUMANITY. SO MUCH LOVE FOR OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS THERE. THANK YOU JORDAN. YOU ARE RIGHT THERE FOR US ALL.>> <<@VSovreign7165 says : D-I-E sounds very much like Fascism or a totalitarian ideology.>> <<@phb1955 says : Bang on Jordan. Academia has essentially been dismantled from within.>> <<@SifSehwan says : This is now more relevant than ever.>> <<@elisabethseaton6521 says : Thank you for reading your article aloud. We who have vision issues often have trouble finding articles that make sense that are being read aloud. Bless you for the work you do and thank you for sharing it in this format>> <<@cachinnation448 says : This is what the 8th century BC prophets of Israel and Judah would sound like today!>> <<@iam1smiley1 says : D-E-I is Division/Exclusion/Indoctrination 😂>> <<@doctortimetv1577 says : yea others spell it dei i always spell it die . because thats what is happening to merit and men being able to achieve anything professionally. and men are being called toxic.>> <<@jdt25 says : Western culture believes that the past (centuries of Affirmative Action for Whites) has no bearing on the present due to the West’s dichotomous logic (i.e., two seemingly opposite pairs ought not mix or be related to one another). This is convenient, as it means all the atrocities committed by the West in the past, doesn’t warrant justice in the present because the Western logic asserts that there is a divide between the past and the present, rather than seeing the past in the present.>> <<@jdt25 says : Jordan Peterson refers to DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) as DIE, suggesting that it will lead to death. It begs the question, “the death of who exactly?” His statement reveals that he, along with others who share his views, are concerned that diverse representation poses a threat to the survival of White males. This is reminiscent of Dr. Frances Cress Welsing's argument that racism is aimed at thwarting the perceived danger of White genetic annihilation. In other words, the belief is that a significant increase in people of color will eventually lead to the genetic displacement of Whites, who are a minority on a global scale, through interethnic relationships. This is because White + Black = Colored; White + Brown = Colored; and White + Yellow = Colored. Furthermore, when White women are polled, and asked what man she finds most physically attractive, at the level of the aggregate, she says the Black male, so if people of color, especially Black males are given access to opportunities, the fear is that they’re now accumulate more resources, thus giving women the security that they want, and White men won’t be selected as mates, thus wiping out the White race. That is the fundamental fear here.>> <<@IntentionalityMentor says : Hosea chapter 8, verse 7, where the Lord tells the people through Hosea, “They sow the wind, And reap the whirlwind. The stalk has no bud; It shall never produce meal. If it should produce, Aliens would swallow it up.” The key there is the first part of the verse—and this is the theme of this chapter—“They sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind.” Another preacher put it this way: “Deeds are seeds.” The way you live is what you are sowing; this is the fruit that you are bearing. And the seeds that you sow will bear fruit, good or bad. We’ve seen that when we looked two weeks ago at the works of the flesh versus the fruit of the Spirit. The point is, the way you live will reap fruit, good or bad. The deeds are seeds.>> <<@ronderuiter3298 says : It's almost like the Soviets realized they booked the wrong horse with Communism and managed to switch ideologies with the West. History will read as a Comedy.>> <<@BBFCCO733 says : I was furious when I took job training to find out I had to do anti-racist training, which basically accused me of being a racist because my ancestors are from Europe. What the heck is wrong with Canada? Basically whites were guests here and now accused of all sorts of nasty things, but the new guests in Canada are allowed to do all kinds of nasty things and get away with it? I assure you, this affects lower class Caucasians which have little chance against a minority who is getting all of the support from Trudeau, and I assure you he does not care because his assets are coming directly from these new arrivals. Appalling to say the least.>> <<@Czarkazmx says : I work at Calendly and dei is killing what was a great company. And I'm considered bipoc>> <<@luigib7311 says : The BiPOC mandate in the writers' room has made TV and movies unwatchable. The woke messaging is everywhere!>> <<@user-ez3il1yy6i says : For The Love Of God People ... Don't Self Censor Yourself .>> <<@a6eman says : If you think it’s about race your a useful idiot. Dei,esg is political, they are putting political officers in every major company, ministry and office but selling it as empowerment of,so called “marginalized groups.” Once they convince you they have accomplished the goal ,the system remains of commissars and political officers to exercise governance in all sectors of society. Its the play book for every rise of totalitarian regimes, get educated people. See rise of the Nazi, Communism in Russia and the cultural revolution in China.>> <<@thejoker9201 says : Its really looking like our entire society is under attack in an unconventional new type of warfare being conducted by Corporate government and global institutions we thought were our own This is warfare we need to recognize it as such>> <<@shoka2114 says : I would like to see some limits to tenure regardless. I have seen professors abuse tenure so many times.>> <<@songo137 says : The title which has been ringing in my mind for some time. It was frustrating that they decided to use three words with very arbitrary meaning. Which can be used in wide range of meanings, connotations, jargons, social situations whether between humans and other animals, or even in plants. And it is checked by simply asking or stating if someone supports DIE? Useful idiots and bunch of -ists, focusing too much on things create more -ists. Great article!>> <<@needmoreramsay says : Dr. Peterson, all you need to do to retain your position is to introduce a BIPOC, less-abled,non-binary vagina, sky water-paint for the in between housed course to your curriculum !! Problem solved. I don't understand the dramatic retirement speech.>> <<@needmoreramsay says : GOOD !! We can't afford to have such broad-minded, anti-communist, unbiased, un-bigoted(?), free-thinking, nationalistic, libertarians RUINING the minds of the government's children !!!>> <<@kenkneram4819 says : This makes me think about the "re-education camps" from post WWII communist China and of course Russia.>> <<@adrianarisher6518 says : Die is the end of humanity needs to be abolish ASAP>> <<@Natella3312 says : How to determine who is who? Yup...to allow not to be afraid to show up without fear your true inner you... Crafty way for sorting and further actions. Who to leave to prosper, who to let go. Just my thinking.>> <<@HawgRiderBC says : Affirmative Action has produced a generation of incompetent graduates, who are completely unqualified for the position, and only are hired for the boxes they check. The incompetent mayors in Dumb-a-crat cities is the perfect example.>> <<@umpatas5468 says : D-I-E or DEI in the states is absolute racism. It's anti white male regardless of your politics.>> <<@blueskies4all says : The architects of the total destruction of the West seem to have won. We are utterly demoralized. What happens next? Total collapse, then chaos, then backlash. It's not going to be pretty>> <<@Jupit3r_Moon says : God truly works through Jordan. He is as wise as a serpent, but as blameless as a dove... ❤️❤️❤️>> <<@keith4230 says : Economic theory says those companies who discriminate (against any race/gender including white males) will be less competitive than those that don’t since the most qualified will be hired/promoted at unbiased firms. DEI is perpetuating inefficiency and societal weakness. Countries like Russia and China don’t have stupid people running their countries or businesses. DEI will lead to business and political demise.>> <<@Oxdeadface says : Another part of the problem is that a lot of people don't understand the issues at hand and refuse to listen to people in the know.>> <<@patrickmoran687 says : Ask any Corporate DEI Director (except the one at your employer if you want to keep your job) if DEI processes and protections apply to straight white men in accordance with Amendment XIV of the US Constitution. When I did, I witnessed an 8 minute effusion of incoherent corporate-speak that never answered the question. Therein was my answer. No. We must start lobbying our local, state/provincial, and Federal legislatures to achieve real equal treatment under the law. Simply deny the inevitable backlash of charges of racism, etc . The situation will worsen if we do not. We must be the people to win this fight.>> <<@uberdonkey9721 says : This is a sad reality. However, there are more and more people realising the discrimination that is happening in left wing socieity. Unfortunately, as a white male, I have suffered discrimination in education, work and under the law. I left UK and live in Africa. Not saying there's no discrimination here, but at least people not pretending to be virtuous while discriminating against you.>> <<@landonhudson448 says : So what you're telling me is, we are approaching a point where, if I want a fairly high paying job on some sort of authoritative board, even if I absolutely don't qualify, all I have to do is identify as a made up gender, which nobody is allowed to question the validity of, and draw attention to the lack of 'diversity' of that company and I basically... get the job? I think about Hollywood movies with terrible plots and stories, boring characters, and preachy woke goals. It's getting easier for anyone to get a job they aren't qualified for and it shows. This creative content which is meant to be enjoyable, but under-qualified people twisted by some sort of agenda (as much as hate the buzzword) keep that from happening. And what happens when you don't like the poor job the underqualified have done? We're the problem. We're the racists, the homophobes, the misogynists and bigots of any and every kind. Wanna talk about ideas that are absolutely backwards? Talk about this.>>
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