Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@RShaun says : Sad I left this in my Watch Later for 3 years. Good conversation.>> <<@tonygodden3026 says : Arguably, those who demonize and dehumanize are out of touch with their own humanity for whatever reason. Been there, done that. I'd hire Chloé without much hesitation, for everyone's benefit.>> <<@wendellbabin6457 says : 1:33:23 EXACTLY THIS. How can white folk, or Asian or any in future be RESPONSIBLE for "Reparations" in whichever "conception" when whichever "GROUP" got "off the boat" LONG AFTER SLAVERY and many after CIVIL RIGHTS and when arriving treated in SOME CASES (certainly the working class and illegals from wherever) as all BUT slaves as is possible in "MODERN" Cultures in the West at least and still exists in far worse conditions in the "Non West". Slave Owners were the Rich "1 percent" of their particular age looks to me. Certainly no scholar. The rest of Society didn't get a DIME of that cash in any sense unless they something to "Sell" that the "1" wanted/needed. Thomas Sowell (a Black Economist, former communist, currently at Stanford) has pointed out repeatedly ALL FOLKS were slaves, OR SLAV(ERS) or "owners" at some point(s) in History. Brits and US are the only Historical Nations I'm aware of that even ATTEMPTED to, end it. Certainly that spent blood or treasure or both to do so. Perfect? NOTHING EVER IS. As Dr. Sowell OFTEN points out..."There are no "Solutions", only trade offs." Also points out that the root of the WORD slavery is "SLAV", because of how many Eastern Europeans were enslaved by Arabs and Africans in History. And blacks have enslaved OTHER Blacks from defeated "other" tribes and often SOLD into the Trade to Non-African cultures. ALL BOILS DOWN TO ELITE "1 PERCENT" AND "THE REST OF US" NO MATTER WHAT RACE, CULTURE, TIME PERIOD ETC LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU PEEL AWAY THE MANY LAYERS OF PROPAGANDA BY ALL ELITES, EVER, FROM WAY UP IN THE "PEANUT GALLERY". Right up until whomevers "scales fall off". If they ever get to the ability to look up from their particular "grindstones". At whoever's EXPENSE. Usually those IN THE SAME BOAT as "you and yours".>> <<@wendellbabin6457 says : 1:18:33 Music is "the first cope"? Something I have noticed as an old fogey during COVID is the "Reaction Video" on YouTube. As said fogey I have no idea when this began, but after what looks likey PERMANENT DISMISSAL from the Labor Force at age 55 in 2018 I noticed the genre in my YT feed. All that to say, the...NON-Steroypical rejection...of Country Music by Black Reactors recently I think is Mirroring the "White Embracing" of Black Music at various periods of Blacks and Whites at least TRYING to find common ground SOMEPLACE that I would argue ALWAYS BREAKS DOWN, in the END, over MONEY. That EVENTUALLY every Society or Culture breaks down over. The stereotyping of Non Elites over "Richer than our Tribe" assuming same as ENEMY. The Basic us/them TRIBAL VIEW writ larger in THIS DECADES OR CENTURY OR CULTURAL MANIFESTATION or manipulation by whichever Psychopath or tribes of same at whichever LEVEL can successfully Rile or Pacify whichever mobs are applicable. Cain and Abel over and over and over again until whichever gives up in exhaustion from shoveling dirt into a bottomless pit. AGAIN!>> <<@wendellbabin6457 says : 42:18 I've said ALMOST my whole life, "it" is about Rich and...not poor...but Po'. What NT calls poor in spirit in the Beatitudes. Which as Jordan correctly points out money does not, and cannot, "solve", because I have learned for some folks they will NEVER be capable of "managing" wisely and/or "saving for a rainy day" no matter HOW MUCH THEY MAKE, ARE GIVEN (AT TAXPAYERS EXPENSE) for merely existing and voting "correctly" and not required to IMPROVE THEMSELVES at all other than getting more skilled at signing up for more "Free Programs" and NEVER learning that NOTHING is "Free". Or Easy. Or the only real answer I have found is to want less, and hang on to anything you manage to earn in a white knuckled Death Grip for as long as you POSSIBLY can and not spend it on "Bull Droppings" of whichever variety you are susceptible to. And good luck EVER convincing a SPOUSE that DOES NOT BELIEVE that ANY MONEY MUST BE SPENT! Unless SHE earned it. What is cliche'? Your money is our money, and MY MONEY is my money. Good luck in divorce court with THAT, BTW. There are a couple of old Country drinking songs for that as well. "Cheaper to keep her" and "She got the Gold Mine, and I got the shaft." Both of Mom's husbands were fond of both. I'm not a country fan, but am certainly in the EXACT SAME BOAT. Coincedence, I think not! And good luck Gents. Because this SCALES no matter WHAT YOU WILL EVER ACCOMPLISH in your life. How many Pro Jocks end up BROKE!? is about all Men need to know these days. HA!>> <<@loveherenow says : Beautiful, so blessed to hear this 💖🙏>> <<@thomassenbart says : She reminds me quite a bit as the female Coleman Hughes.>> <<@markaja2 says : Something that is abraisive about JP here 22:22 is that many people currently think he must earn his voice to speak about such things in a confident, or heartless tone. JP can suspend his emotional connection to provacative issuess in order to analyze things from a larger perspective. This fact will seem to many as callous, but Peterson is anything but callous. Political leaders set some of their power up to be based on oppressed vs oppressor narritive within the contex of an Overton window in their ingroups. People within the groups see the exaggeration as means to an end of meeting in the middle. However, there are people in the outgroups, which have a different Overton window on the matter, who see the exaggeration at face value. These outgroups use the Overton window in their own way, including ideas that their political opposition is composed of lizard people. There used to be a majority in the US with one Overton Window, then two Overon Windows, and now there's three or four Overton Windows. The differences are so extreme that people deem their political opposition as being unworthy of being treated as people. We have a dehumanization epidemic growing in the US, and Chloe Valdary seems to be on the best track of addressing this issue because she can connect with a wider audience.>> <<@Videx19 says : A minority of racist bigots, have a disproportionate amount of influence and power.>> <<@ryanbutler544 says : I was making my way through these episodes, and I was close to skipping this one. I didn't know that there were people that were actively perpetuating intelligent solutions to the DEI problem. This was a fantastic episode. Thank you both.>> <<@codediporpal says : Fired off some snarky comment at her today because she disagreed with Matt Walsh that "white people" were the first to abolish slavery. But she's right. And Peterson is right that truth is the only power worth perusing. Now I want to hear what she has to say.>> <<@someonesomeone25 says : Maybe they are. If forced to choose only one race to survive, and all others to cease to exist forever, I suspect most people would choose their own race.>> <<@flashwashington2735 says : Masters of healing play in the sandbox of words and humor as medicine. Revealing a new discovery of old fundamental truths neglected, forgotten and lost. Refreshing and nourishing to be at your table. Thanks Jordan and thank you Chloe. Greater love has no man then to lay down his life for his friend. Thanks for your open invitation to friendship. Thank you for your vital living sacrifice, a sweet smelling savor to God and man. God bless.>> <<@johnpenner5182 says : very impressed with Chloé — she works from a heart of love — something peterson would do well to remember. 🤨>> <<@Random51960 says : I’m not racist>> <<@plainsimple442 says : It is much simpler than race.>> <<@Joseph-k7n8c says : Not me, i am just like eddie Murray from the movie boomerang i hate women with ugly feet.>> <<@paulcastillo953 says : Where did the horrible cruelty to others human beings come about like the chopping off of the feet , hands the latches , the hangings from trees the roasting of bodies. Who thought those up . ? Good Christian?>> <<@Dustysoapbox says : 1:10. True power lies before thought. The well that thoughts are drawn from is the domain of power. Just who supplies that well? And worse who contaminates it?>> <<@dougmoore5252 says : Chloe, not all white people are racist.>> <<@jasonblack6142 says : That word is and has not ever meant anything to me , neither has any other word that's not correct in this certain civilizations way of it being on the bad end of the stick, words which inflict pain into another or one's self.. SO You wake up , You are in fear or love or neutral.... You we're programmed from the age of 1 thru to the 7Th or so,,,, Ones tend to want to box in words and desire expansion of them ,,even when it does not align with truthness,,,,,God may well be just simply living through every possible dimension along with his own 7. in a show of what power - or - source may desire to see how far it can shine and still function throughout the cosmos .. Jason black 🖤>> <<@teee1111 says : Dude, let her talk 🙄>> <<@robertwilber1909 says : Too much trouble, most people only care about themselves. Totally sick of woke racist victim pukes.>> <<@tommyharmon214 says : This is easily one of the finest dialogues on this podcast yet. Very intelligent, respectful, dignified and compassionate. Well done.>> <<@hadassah179 says : The one problem that's left a bruise on racial equality that became worsened was that the ones who wrote the statement "all men are created equal" were only considering white homogeny and not the ones they considered slaves who were equal to livestock. So the open question was if it was written to be only for whites then why do we insist on it if that was the purpose behind it. We had to fight for the fact that that's what was written and make it so.>> <<@daughtermoreau says : One of the best talks I've ever seen.>> <<@thomascooper9902 says : This is the first theory pertaining to racism and racial equality that actually makes sense and I think schools everywhere could use this theory rather than critical race theory>> <<@dudleyfoster8263 says : My dad told me this when I was younger "Don't try and make your point valid in my HOUSE which I have made beautiful but if you like, there is a door there and it will never be locked, go LIVE YOUR DREAM, BUILD YOUR OWN HOUSE " and if you fail, don't come back until you understand why 😥😥>> <<@kevinhulvey7018 says : What resonates most with me is when Dr. Peterson is saying that it would be impossible to even cross a street if you were always acutely aware of all the complexity all around you. It's a shame that one of the things the human brain does to conserve energy is to cut empathy with other people. That chain of cutting empathy of course starts with those who are most different to you. What internal or external conditions make anyone more or less likely to do that more or less frequently?>> <<@shanevenner9716 says : All flexible middle class personalities know these truths to be self evident. When God is an array type variable containing all the conscious and unconscious minds of the universe plus other properties including your mother father brother sister strangers we meet every day and strangers we don't. The neural net computer is all about the acquisition of accurate data. Anything that gets in the way of acquiring accurate that data is crippling the deep unconscious. God is truth. Truth is accurate data. All inaccurate data that is created done for the destruction of the unconscious is evil. Sight sound taste and kinesthetic inputs is how we squire data. We all taste the same we all have the same bio electricity. The first face we learn to read is our mothers and that becomes the facial topography we learn to read first and are most comfortable with. The music of our first language we learn to speak is our mothers and that music is most soothing. All objects that emit light will reveal them selves first. Objects that sparkle will get all the attention. There is a hierarchy of light production. The flexible middle class can acquire and control data with ease and do not notice. The less flexible edge dweller classes have more difficulty. Neo Marxist fundamentalist religion know these rules use these rules manipulate these rules and enslave with these rules. Karl Marx didn't invent the rules he just quantified them so people could kill people faster.>> <<@joshuaortmeyer291 says : 7:47 Does anyone have sources about 1970s studies of chimpanzees tearing other chimpanzee groups into pieces? I can't find anything on the internet.>> <<@SamanthaSalmon says : @20 minutes is exactly white supremacy because people were here before those people came and setup a new system. There was a system before they came and ignored it and setup their own system.>> <<@martinleitner8092 says : I love how Chloe lets Jordan do most of the talking, yet she still steers him towards her position. She is a true master of enchantment.>> <<@fritsonpetitfrere2103 says : I think some racism is necessary for self preservation. If you look at the William Lynch letter, Freeway Rick Ross, the smallpox thing with the Native Americans, etc. It's event after event saying that if you trust them they will kill, cripple, imprison, or defame you.>> <<@Pleblordy says : If it can be agreed that there are huge problems in terms of encouraging diverse people to “get along” why add to the problem through mass immigration?>> <<@christopheryoung383 says : Listen to dr. Peterson just for a year or so little over a year-and-a-half to two years and everytime I listen to his is talking and his interviews the more I feel good about myself did I catch Ange my ways is just one of the most awesome braids I stood here about the same category is Thomas Sowell in a lot of other people that I highly admire I wish I could be as good time as he is and helping people don't have the patience so often and I can't get out the words that I want the words that I want to project out God bless you God bless Chloe I enjoyed this very much so. It gives me hope a western two beauties that we have strong people like these two to help us grow God bless>> <<@draganignjatovic4812 says : Not our cup of tea Here’s the thing; The aggressive R1b mutation should not pretend to include us, the non-aggressive R1a haplogroup in their guilt and misery just because we are both so called 'white Europeans' as slavery and racism is not and never was our cup of tea. Thank you.>> <<@christophercarpenter8868 says : I'm not going to watch I've traveled to 14 countries everyone thinks their race should rule all others the answer is overwhelming YES>> <<@richardwills-woodward says : The issue is ultimately the same. A large proportion of the black population, particularly those of Jamaican and Sub-Saharan African heritage, have a chip on their shoulder. They cannot cope with being a minority in a country that was chosen (in the UK) or forced (as in the US) on them. They have a problem with the Enlightenment and its results. They have no achievements in their country of origin's history to call on, but cannot seem to own that of the country they are currently in either. Therefore, given their anti-white racism, they occupy a no-man's land (those that feel this way) and their answer is.... 'diversity and inclusion' which is a disgusting ideology. Despite her intelligence, she is repackaging a way to spread this poison, just in a more subtle way. The fact she has studied Enlightenment content makes it a travesty one can still conclude in this way. It is not my responsibility to change my way of life for races and/or cultures that cannot fit the majority, the history of a nation's culture, or their parents' decisions. My experience of the 'black community' in the UK is appalling, but that is a personal experience and an aggregated one. This is, in essence, not my problem. Those that worship skin colour as the main tenet of their soul need to find a way to get through this. The Enlightenment should be quite enough. Let's forget race for a moment... if someone from a background that doesn't have a teacher or parent that teaches them to speak properly, then that will disadvantage them. They cannot work for me in this condition, yet diversity says we should embrace this difference. Sorry, no. My clients have expectations. This therefore is the teachers' fault where parents are incapable. Again, this is not a problem I can solve. So how dare anyone put anyone else through this nonsense training.>> <<@paulineliste4545 says : Well, I sat and peeled garlic and felt extremely fortunate for my iPad, for the internet and for the two people who shared their conversation with us.. truly a heartfelt afternoon, thank you>> <<@Neon4ty7 says : She’s a James Brown>> <<@amandamillican8731 says : No but the government needs us to think that. Divide and conquer!>> <<@valencia4215 says : This conversation represents an expression of excellence and beauty between two thought-provoking, kind, and peaceful human beings. Chloe is brilliant and deeply introspective and compassionate. Of course, Jordan Peterson displays the epitome of enlightenment and wisdom. Thank you both.>> <<@0x9D99 says : To whoever added time stamps… THANK! YOU!>> <<@janicebrown4055 says : ❤️POWERFUL❤️ Blessings to the both of you🇨🇦>> <<@tedhamilton2362 says : Diversity based on thought and personality are desirable but is not perfect. We should strive for excellence and achievable. Diversity (categorization) and emphasis on race as the basis is more flawed and destructive as it abandons and minimizes diversity of thought and personality for a skin color.>> <<@tedhamilton2362 says : DEI is destructive and creates what it claims to address.>> <<@davidkemp3154 says : Black man narrative thinks I'm supposed to be attracted to black women & if I'm not Im a racist. Every black man is attracted to most white women OVER black women- most white males are not attracted to black females. Blacks have a racebait culture using free public lawyering for shared mass stalkings & settlements, often not working ever FT to gain ss retirement benefits often leaving them poor in late life. Online dating started revealing how black men always checked the white girl box. Black homosexuality is criminalized in Africa but ubiquitous free online porn in America always shows the white male as a cuck or gimp to the black man. White male gayness is embraced by Democrats standing shoulder to shoulder w these same black men in US politics & pop culture.>> <<@BONNYRIGG says : Their mutual respect for each other was powerful and inspiring, I loved this discussion>> <<@leemackie8434 says : Can I thank you so much for this decision 💗🇦🇺👍💕👏 Australia 🇦🇺 is going through a great transformation journey on First Nation People and this has given me a new perspective within the decision going on. The First Nation Peoples are asking for a change to Our Constitution with a thing called The Voice and will not give a understanding of its real meaning and how it will work and if we ask questions we are seen as being Racist. Watching this has helped me with reworking my questions. Thank you so much.>>