Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@sldkex says : “If causality were a physical principal, logic wouldn’t work” … I truly have been trying to resolve this nonsense, but these cherry picked examples of “no physicality between the cause and effect” aren’t cutting it. He mentions thoughts, and that is quite interesting to me. I have been wondering about the *actual* causality of thought. This “imagining a pink elephant after hearing it and a pink elephant appears but not literally” spiel might sound nice, but this isn’t really causality in thought. What he describes is hearing a phrase (cause) and a preceding thought (effect) … But what if the thought WAS the cause? People love to make examples of this using complex actions, but I find that to be a copout, since the effect is often baked into the concept. A ‘loaded example’, if you will … What I want to understand is the truest and most simple heart of the issue. Lets say that I imagine a line of dialogue in my head, just for fun, and then immediately moved on without acting on it at all. That’s the thing, if you really want to get to the bottom of whether or not thoughts obey causality, consider the most fundamental conscious pondering. A snippet of a song sung in your head, a few seconds of an imagined conversation … What was the cause? What was the effect? I don’t know, I really want to get to the bottom of this, but this video just ain’t it.>> <<@billrussell569 says : An immaterial mind (or more than one mind) created the iPhone AND income taxes that people must pay ... A mind (immaterial) can cause/create many things to come into existence.>> <<@CMVMic says : There is no such thing as an immaterial being lol The Mind is not a substance. Thoughts are not substances>> <<@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe says : Water is to marine life as information is to people. In the beginning was information. Information is both physical and non physical. It is the most fundamental.>> <<@dperkins01 says : Frank when you tell your arm to go up that neurotransmitter sends a message from the brain to the nerves and muscles to move. If you have a stroke you will learn this. You talking forms in the brain.>> <<@SpiritandWill says : Frank just explained Spirit, not physical, not of this physical world. And Soul is our feelings.>> <<@davidhodge5112 says : So God is spaceless timeless immaterial personal moral. 1st of all if he is spaceless and timeless he cannot exist in our reality in any tangible way therefore he does not exist. Secondly christians often Claim that they hear God's voice this is delusion of course But he seems to be telling them all some very different things. And finally what caused God who made him it's an infinite regress.>> <<@alspezial2747 says : since when are chemical an electrical processes metaphysical?>> <<@kaizze8777 says : the person doing the thumbnail deservers all the gigs they get and more>> <<@etincardiaego says : Naive pseudo-Thomistic philosophy>> <<@JeramyRG says : It's just a rhetorical game meant to disguise our intuitional blindness and call it reliable. It's not reliable, pick up a history book.>> <<@JeramyRG says : There's a lot of good reason to doubt anything beyond our knowledge works the way we intuitively think it should.>> <<@avontepowerfulandcomplete5611 says : Alphaverse to ΩAvonte?>> <<@ShaunMartinez4 says : If our minds can do it and his mind is infinitely more great he'd just do it on a different scale we affect a sometimes up to 700 pound body's not healthy please don't do but if our mind can do that why couldn't a divine mind think a universe into existence>> <<@DiscipleShaynePlaylist says : Hi Frank. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of the Lord. If say to the guy You are (a being) a person in a constructed functioning body. Would you agree? And then move onto what you said before. So what do you think about Jesus? And if Christianity were true and as I testify it is, what would stop you from becoming a Christian? Blessings Frank Jesus is my Lord & Alive!!! ✝️💕🏃🌎💨>> <<@siquod says : Can causality even be defined properly without metaphysical concepts? What's physically unambiguous is correlation, but that doesn't prove causation. For that you have to make assumptions about things like the free will of the experimenter choosing the inputs to the experiment, or a preferred direction of time, things which go beyond the mere physical laws.>> <<@jordanmeyers2353 says : Most of the universe is immaterial>> <<@kristofftaylovoski60 says : "You won the Sperm Race" Engage California Conference 2015 - Session 3 Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, CA>> <<@lizadowning4389 says : I wonder what Turek would answer if I asked him: "What caused infinity?".>> <<@sardinah70 says : Excellent exclamation you can not except the explanation but you can’t deny the objective Truth of the explanation>> <<@markh1011 says : Turek equates god as an "immaterial mind" with our mind as being an immaterial mind. Our mind is not immaterial. You can make your claims about a soul but the fact is that we need our minds to move our arms and conjure images (his examples) The type of immaterial mind that Yahweh apparently uses is nothing like the lump of grey matter we carry in our skulls. The is equivocation. But ultimately his answer is something of a leap of faith. He's basically saying that causality still applies to the magical realm. It's interesting that Turek would support this when he talks of an uncaused cause which seems to contradict that.>> <<@calmsea8899 says : I love listening to Frank Turek. He addresses difficult questions and provides easy to understand answers. God has truly blessed him with wisdom.>> <<@jdshl8423 says : I think a lot of us have had trouble with this "Law of Causality" argument with atheists. And Dr. Turek actually actually hit the nail on the head. With reason and experience, we know this to be true and therefore make the deduction. Do we know for sure? No, but it is a far more reasonable explanation compared to the atheist's view that it isn't so, which goes against reason and experience. It is unreasonable, and that is how much they want it to not be true.>> <<@resistdespots4911 says : I agree with what Frank is saying. Couldn’t people still say that these thoughts are caused by chemical processes in the brain? They use it to explain near death experiences.>> <<@RobertA-oi6hw says : Romans 3:23, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." We have all sinned. We have all done things that are displeasing to God. There is no one who is innocent. Romans 3:10-18 gives a detailed picture of what sin looks like in our lives.>> <<@robertramsey653 says : GOD has blessed Frank turek. I wish I had half the knowledge he does. Half the time I cant remember what happened 10 minutes ago lol.>> <<@tTtt-ho3tq says : Causality of the universe is governed by the laws of nature that god designed and perfectly fine tuned. Causality of the original sin to the fallen world is also designed and fine tuned by God, wasn't it? This world, us didn't just happen by chance by nature. It's created by God. All designed and fine tuned by him. Nothing can't create something by itself, so he defined. So who planted the tree of the knowledge? He knew when he commanded Adam not eat from the tree. He knew Adam's going to defy him and eat from the tree, didn't he? He also knew the causality of original sin to fallen world where death, sickness, pain, natural disasters, all those turmoil are because he designed it. So did he know of Adam before or after? Or it's all part of his plan? Doesn't God always have a plan for your life whatever happens? God makes no mistakes. Who planted the tree? What if Adam hadn't defied him and hadn't eaten from the tree? No death, no pain, no sickness, no natural disaster and we wouldn't sin? Yet still have free will and true love? I'm not saying what he would have done this or that. Who am I to tell God what he should do? I'm simply wondering what could have done or could be done. Like, he could have simply killed Adam. And created another Adam and another until the one who wasn't going to sin, eat from the tree. He created Adam so he has the authority to take it away. He flooded the earth to kill everybody and everything except Noah. Wouldn't be better several Adam's than millions of people and everything? And start over even though he must had known he had to send his son to sacrifice his human nature life for us. Just several or maybe some more Adam's to millions and spare his only son's human nature life. What's his purpose of to have created the world and us in the first place?>> <<@icytube2058 says : bruh I was just thinking about this question this morning.>> <<@sandina2cents779 says : I’ve heard of “the pink elephant in the room” many times but I’ve never seen a fabricated pic of a pink elephant till now. Strange in deed.>> <<@Kaymen1980 says : Mr. Frank Turek is the Mr. Kent Hovind of metaphysics..>> <<@canigetachannel says : Mind over matter.>> <<@sierraclark6129 says : “If you declare with your mouth “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). Now is the time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon. Tomorrow isn’t promised.>> <<@SuperMaster60 says : Hi, I know this my not be the please to put this but can you (Dr. Frank) please consider making a FULL in-depth video about the 3 Books of Enoch because it is getting really hyped up and everyone is beginning to talk about it. I know there is other videos out there but would like to know your opinion based on history and scripture around this topic>> <<@DavidOvando says : Thoughts are also chemical. Ideas are chemical. Within our reality we cannot escape the physical limits of our physical interphase. So maybe the rules of logic are immaterial and transcend our physical interface but we have no immaterial way to know they do. Every thought within our capacity to reason is trapped in the physical realm and thus we cannot say for certain the rules of logic exist outside the physical reality.>> <<@Godlimate says : Don’t think it does Frank. Causality also appears in abstract forms. In language, causality is expressed through connecting clauses with particular conjunctions such as “because”, “since”, “as”, “so” etc. We use these conjunctions to make sense of our sentence structure “BECAUSE” we want people to understand us.>> <<@Getsumei_Marson says : Man, I'm trying to have a debate with someone about evolution. It's actually very difficult because thy say all life started in the ocean as microbial cells. Genesis clearly states ever animal and plant were made and finished, with "according to its own kind" meaning adaptation or speciation exists, but it shows that one kind of animal cannot change to another kind. He is saying that genius isn't to be taken literally. This is very difficult>> <<@NewCreationInChrist896 says : Seek God’s will daily. Luke 10:27 💝>> <<@savedbymylovegodthelordjes8394 says : praise the Lord and God bless you all glory be to the HOLY TRINITY forever and ever amen>> <<@RangerCaptain11A says : that's good thinking on your feet, frank.>> <<@darlalei4303 says : I love all the smarty pants comments. So there! 😊>> <<@rolandwatts3218 says : So is Frank answering the actual question because he knows what happens beyond the universe? Or is he taking an "smart inductive leap" as Riley suggested? It seems that Riley's quip hit Frank somewhat because when confronted with it, after stumbling a bit, Frank admits to it but then tries to blame the person who framed the question to Riley, by claiming:- "It seems to me there is something else going on here. There is some sort of resistance the person might have towards saying 'God exists'". Why does such an obvious question raise suspicion in Frank? Perhaps the person who framed the question in the first place, already believed that God exists. It is an obvious question nevertheless. One that believers should not be afraid to address. Frank is poisoning the well with such comments, and Riley offered nothing to suggest that the lecturer was a wicked and unrighteous person (at least within the short video). If I was Riley, I'd forget that last comment from Frank. If he tried it on the original person, he might find out how bad that claim actually is.>> <<@incredulouspasta3304 says : 1. Umm... does Frank think that the syllogism itself caused Socrates to be mortal??? 2. How do you know your thoughts are made of immaterial stuff? This suffers from the same lack of evidence as immaterial causation.>> <<@drumrnva says : All you need to do, Frank, is to provide a test. Just demonstrate a single instance of the immaterial god causing something-- ANYTHING-- to happen in the tangible world.>> <<@justincameron9661 says : Excellent. Knowledgeable and spot on as always>> <<@Nimish204 says : Casuality only works on a macro scale. Is completely useless in the quantum world. We have seen particles pop in and out of existence for no reason.>> <<@kevinclint7588 says : But now,O LORD,thou art our father;we are the clay,and thou our potter;and we are the work of thy hand.ISAIAH 64:8😘❤️>> <<@aaronchristopher9777 says : Psalm 94:9 He that planted the ear, shall he not hear? he that formed the eye, shall he not see? God is physical and spirit! We are made in his image.. the ELOHIM(Trinity) counseled together and said let us make man in our image. Physical doesn’t have to mean flesh....>> <<@m.t.9109 says : Causality is a naturalistic cathegory and can be apply only in natural world. That include most of our mental states, but not all. Causality contradict freedom, which is a spiritual cathegory. God doesn't act through causality, but through (Holy) Spirit, which is freedom. It's very profound topic, many books have been written on this subject.>> <<@Valdrex says : Our thoughts are physical though. The pink elephant is represented in our brains by physical processes.>> <<@Kaymen1980 says : Causation = God thinks, in no time and place: "Hey, you know what, I want to share my love with someone, therefore I have to create someone whom I can share it with - out of nothing." *God creates/Big Bang.*>>