Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@CosmicSkeptic says : Thanks for this, Dr. Peterson. A thoroughly animating conversation!>> <<@resiknoiro7506 says : I'm sorry to say this, but this guy's SO drunk on symbols.>> <<@valentinaselektrikas says : 1:41:00 If you seperate God from nature then he becomes not all powerfull, this means he becomes not God.>> <<@charleslarimore8830 says : 1:20:04 If I may, Mr. Peterson is trying to say there are scopes or boundaries of knowing things that prevent over reach. I have come to dub this term “plural juxtaposition of bounded reasoning”. I take as much into consideration as I can. ANE mythology, Hebrew lexeme, cultural norms, allegorical plausible, etc Holding all of it together to guide a constrained hermeneutics. Unfortunately for Dr. Peterson any human cannot on demand recall all the complex things and tries his best to use heuristics to convey meaning in a way that isn’t conceivable to someone without the disciplined context in which he approaches scripture out of reverence to the Heavenly Father.>> <<@charleslarimore8830 says : I thoroughly enjoy this conversation. Mostly for Mr. Petersons resolve to not prematurely be marked by something not ordained by the Heavenly Father. I have been transformed in my understanding and I am untrained in choosing my words still but yet I can discern the “sense of” hesitation. What sense of belief, what sense of God, what sense of tradition. We’ve abstracted language to a point it’s hard to discern meaning. I am grateful to both of you gentleman because you both have contributed to me humbling myself to a point God can call me.>> <<@InsomniaxYT says : A point that ruins his initial question "if it is life or death does this chair exist?" yes the chair factually according to TRUTH exists across all manners of understanding exists . So YES the chair exists. If the question is truly life or death and you answer No, you're dead. Your currently sitting on the object in question. What happened to common sense?>> <<@user-jk1qf3me2w says : The fellow on the left who in other videos defends animal murder and is triggered by the idea of non-slaughter fancies himself a moralist and a thinker? 🤣🤣>> <<@fabjongjuzi says : @15:14 At the base has to be the fear of not knowing what's after death? Deepest and oldest archetype since the birth of consciousness. "Where I came from?", and "Where am I going?">> <<@MrRudyss1010 says : WOW! It is so clear to me that Jordan is so completely full of it.....>> <<@lessrabek4748 says : Peterson did not answer the last question. He is a master bullshitter and Alex, precise and logical.>> <<@RahulRoy-dg4dv says : For fellow fools: Dear fool, I have taken the time to understand this conversation and interpret it at great personal expense of time. Here is what the two chatter boxes are yapping on about for what seems to be at least 50% of this video's length: Jordan likes the message of "god" and "the bible" and believes it to be just as real as he believes things like- the iconic phrases: "honesty is the best policy" and "actions speak louder than words" or the story of "The boy who cried wolf" - to be That is to say He likes the message. The stories may be real. There may have been a boy. And a wolf. But the message matters more and is more "real". Move on with your day. Regards, A fellow fool.>> <<@JLiL4949 says : Twenty One Pilots Saved My Life |-/>> <<@breadfan590 says : Am I wrong for finding JP’s answers obnoxiously evasive, and a bit pretentious? He keeps coming up with all of these analogies to answer with, but they have little substance outside of making him an armchair poet, maybe. You can’t get a straight answer out of him, it is just unproductive rambling.>> <<@Remiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii says : I find Alex examples to be kinda immature sometimes, like the one about “if you were the only witness to a murder, would you come up with that kind of answer” like goofy as hell but he’s young. At the end I enjoyed the conversation.>> <<@fugana5073 says : Jordan is so butthurt holly.>> <<@sidace4362 says : I can point to hell where you can see it with your own eyes. On a sunny day at noon time look straight up.>> <<@sidace4362 says : Adam did die in the day that he ate of the fruit. For God everything is spiritual. Adam died spiritually. He became an enemy of God. Same as the devil. Good didn’t want Adam to eat off the tree of life because he didn’t want men to live forever as an evil being like Satan. Otherwise you and I would be eternally evil. And would need to be either imprisoned forever or be slowed to exist in a violent world much worse than what we see today. Don’t just ignore this as a silly assumption. Run the logic through the whole gamut.>> <<@jaydub7121 says : The difference in the way Alex and Jordan think about the world couldn’t seemingly be more different. Alex wanted to keep coming back to a statement of rational, objective fact, whereas Jordan sees the world as meta-reality where patterns that have been distilled over time are even more real than what objective facts. They couldn’t bridge that gap.>> <<@WimLommelen says : Dear Mr. Peterson, I cleaned up my room, I savaged a lobster but yet it seems it is a 13th rule I’m in need of. While my personal wealth, I’m sure you’ll appreciate, has bought me the fidelity of a female of the female sex ànd gender, it seems depth is what is lacking. Am I a Marxist now? Will you Ahbrahamically offer me up for God knows? Will you keep riding old Dawkins and young Alex’s coattails for relevance? Unbecoming your stature? Please? Did I ask these questions exactly the way your arbitrary and ever-shifting rules demand? No? So sorry. “What do you mean by please, and words like thank you, sorry or rice pudding? I demand oblique, dialectic, density and dimness in terms of my narrative construction. It’s not that simple! I am simple!” Ok sorry, I don’t have a steak on the table so here is to you and the one book you have yet to grasp. Keep up the good work. Any day now. Tadaa. P. s. Say hi to Ben Shappers for me will you. He’s having a hard time making the move to Judeo-Chrislamism. But a Philistine dragon to be slayed I’m sure. Bye for now and just stop.>> <<@pabloramos1750 says : Jordan Peterson: "people ask me if I believe in God, I don't know what people understand by believe when they ask me if I believe in God"...you just answered it, you understand but refuse to answer by play on words.>> <<@hitonokoan says : The things are real in this matter, that they have a connection from than until now. And that is the true function of religion. Who has eyes to see, see. And who has ears to hear, hear.>> <<@hitonokoan says : If Jesus was God and he isn't here yet, where is God then? And I think the Godlikeness was the permission to sacrifice himself, with his belief of rising again, what afterwards happened.>> <<@eaaronross says : Peterson is on his best behavior here in a way that I was taken aback by, just coming from his Jubilee video where is aggressive the whole. I much appreciate and prefer this person.>> <<@olepapa1362 says : Fk the Daily Wire tho>> <<@theway3031 says : Alex can’t be that smart if he doesn’t believe we have souls and there’s no higher being and we all came out of the Big bang 🤣🤣🤣>> <<@theway3031 says : Don’t get it twisted Alex is not on Jordan Petersen’s level Jordan’s putting himself on Alex’s level>> <<@theway3031 says : Thomas put his fingers in the palms of Jesus he was in the flesh. I don’t know what the discussion is about.>> <<@Ryan-mp1jk says : 8:28 This explanation by JP regarding "winning a debate" is spot on.>> <<@jamesrgoes says : Don't always agree with either one, however, I have great respect for each and see a deep goodness and endless curiosity within each>> <<@AmanoCards says : Wow! He just will not let himself be pinned down, but at least he admitted now. 🙄>> <<@EnyaBancroft-ep3ik says : I don't understand why people struggle to take the Bible as a historical document. Just as we believe other historical events recorded by people who are no longer living, so should the bible be taken and accepted as fact. There is no difference between the Bible and other historical documents in that sense. Then we should also go a step further and take it as a window into human nature and patterns and apply what we find to our daily lives .>> <<@SethB-no9iz says : I'm a Christian and I much prefer alex explanations and understanding of thinking than most. I would love to talk with him but I'm no where near eloquent as him. Im glad hes able to help Peterson try to understand how questions most people ask rather than Peterson doesn't like how the questions are formulated.>> <<@Lewis.snookes says : 35:40 - THAT IT HAPPENED, that's what people mean when they talk about if something happened historically>> <<@FastFitFive says : What was the book Jordan Peterson said Richard Dawkins had to read in order to understand religion?>> <<@RobertHocker-i9j says : Belief is accepting information to be a truth. The jewish " god" is physical. He never died. Jesus came to try to convert the sinners into followers. Jesus never died on the cross permanently. Nobody saw jesus when he walked out of the tomb. Even his mother had to find him Jordan admitted to not believing in truth. .that is fascinating. There are many contradictions in the bible. The burning bush was real. JFK was president. The Bible is real The term " possessed" means controlled by a spirit nobody could switch our or touch Elvis's guitar Your interpretation of resurrection is incorrect. Jesus wasn't in the garden of eden. Satan was the serpent in the garden of eden. Satan came to earth from mars. Nobody created the universe . The bible is simple to understand. Neighther of you knows anything about the bible. Taoists are completely different. ChatGPT is extremely intelligent. I trained it for high intelligential systemic functions. Both of you are incoherently babbling about nonsense.>> <<@derekparente297 says : Jordan is being dishonest u onow what is being asked>> <<@amdblor says : this conversation is AAA clas>> <<@Speydork666 says : You have a serious problem when you need a 25 year old to explain your viewpoints>> <<@Isaacisrk says : If my calculations are correct. Jordan Peterson is simply an overly philosophical Noahide.>> <<@kamilgawel9986 says : I want to live in the world where this kind of People are leading ones. This conversation is a beautiful experience in our world filled with political garbage statements.>> <<@killybiddy7418 says : I am not religious, nor particularly scientific, but I am an expert in body language and what it can tell you about a person. Especially when they are speaking about things that are tied to their core beliefs and their physical, spiritual and mental safety. To see a human being, who possesses what is clearly a dizzying intellect, have to twist their own body, face and, presumably, their mind in such uncomfortable ways is enough for me. JP clearly knows instinctively that what he is saying and arguing for is false. If only he could be honest with himself, maybe he wouldn’t visiting such harm on the world through those who are indoctrinated to follow the kind of “teachings” he provides. When one half of a debate needs , some would call, divine levels of patience and study to keep the other half of the debate from blowing up or leaving the room. It becomes pretty obvious whose arguments are rooted in truth. What a great and illuminating conversation this was.>> <<@kdawg2528 says : Hope you’re doing well JP>> <<@edwarddobson2920 says : Jordan is only another fallible creature in need of a belonging to his own and innate instincts. We are by default story tellers and tribal by nature.>> <<@iJohnJohn66 says : I’m an atheist and I try not to hate anybody in this world but if there’s anybody, I hate more in this world it’s Jordan Peterson. He’s the most obnoxious narcissistic asshole in the world. He’s angry at everybody and everything. I can’t imagine his poor wife having to have sex with him.>> <<@lozer7011 says : I think I’m more confused but it seem he is consistently vague and esoteric about everything so I won’t say he is doing this just to be an apologist. If anything he seem like he would be more into the gnostics or he would’ve made a new denomination of Christianity.>> <<@thesixthfloor11 says : I used to disregard petersons theological opinions as simply word salad, but in recent weeks I do think he is getting at something truly profound. He exists more as an extreme of an important and interesting way of thinking. Whereas Alex appears almost as the evolution of both Petersons way of thinking and potentially Hitchens or Dawkins making up some other parts of him. A truly thrilling conversation, it contained moments of light unspoken sparring while also some really important theological agreement. The ‘reality’ of hamlet and crime and punishment is endlessly interesting to me. Thanks to both parties for making this possible. Wishing Jordan a speedy recovery👊🏼❤️>> <<@bjarnepedersen9593 says : Have you met the Holy Lord?>> <<@bjarnepedersen9593 says : I met God without asking and without having any preformed way of the way to getting to know him!>> <<@timestamp_tim says : 33:37>> <<@Franerocksyeah says : 39:18 is such a great moment of the conversation>>