Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@JeffersonGamez-s4p says : Marx was living in the 19th century. There is not Intellectual from back there that wasn't racist of some degree. Even the man himself who figure out we are all a family, Charles Darwin, was racist. But we build upon these men ideas, not simply criticize them with the mind of today.>> <<@Flammablamablammablemmmm says : Marx exchanged letters with Lincoln, encouraging him in the fight against slavery. Is this guy gonna mention that? 😂>> <<@valuedrop-w8o says : Marx was actually anti slavery and he even sent a letter to Lincoln congratulating him for fighting against slavery>> <<@annetteschulze3448 says : So, that cancels out his ideas and theories?>> <<@01_SPACE_C0WB0Y says : And whats funny is this entire comment section doesn't even understand what Marx taught. Modern "marxists" have it completely wrong. He layed out a prediction for the natural progression of the global superstructure, and capitalism as the force that would carry it out. He didn't write some framework about "overthrowing capitalism">> <<@ComradeLiam says : Marx' not Marx's>> <<@ComradeLiam says : Tell me you never read a letter between marx and engels without telling me that you never read a letter between marx and engels>> <<@ademjrad9994 says : Lmao>> <<@tomlatenite8348 says : Sounds like the modern day Republicans! They are highly racist people, then I want you to know it though, but how can you not know it?>> <<@Daniel-w2q3v says : Ok, so everyone has at least some good qualities.>> <<@michaelhertz8717 says : Anybody have a source for these letters?>> <<@PassportBroPolice says : I'm sure rich wants Marx cancel 😂 He exposed the scam .... Most rich people are racist too>> <<@GHXX201 says : Stooping to such a low where the best people can do to try and dismiss Marxism is by saying that he used a vulgar word (which was common place during the industrial period) is so shameful. This critique does not challenge the substance of marxism as an economic theory and offers no basis for productive argument.>> <<@salmansengul says : So Karl Marx wrote the German word "Neger" in the 1800s. What a shocker. How the duck does this discredit his valid criticisms? Edit: That word was pretty common for black people back in the day. Not only derogatory. It was just the word used to describe black people.>> <<@Niaz_S says : “Marx’s view and the Marxist view are two different things” - random stranger, but helpful information when pseudo-intellectuals try to pull a fast one on you.>> <<@pistolonthetrack says : Tf is bro saying>> <<@Hjdnckbwgdk says : now i love him even more❤>> <<@burberguy5736 says : It's almost like it's an economic belief>> <<@CaroRományoga says : They try and try but Marx ALWAYS will be reference in history>> <<@gripti0n224 says : Who cares about Marx the person? People care about his ideas>> <<@eddietheunggoyslayer3904 says : I think it's possible to be nuanced and use critical thinking to agree with some ideas and disagree with others.>> <<@trevortimmer6804 says : The most racist guy you know calling marx racist>> <<@justinm1200 says : So the founder of Marxism/communism was a racist and many Marxists/communists call themselves “anti-racist”>> <<@Jake_kumar says : Source: trust me bro>> <<@UniversalistSon9 says : Yeah he was from the 1800s, Lincoln was also kinda a racist and stuff, they were men of their times but they still had good progressive ideas>> <<@superdankgod2266 says : Bruh who cares. His critique of capitalism is what matters.>> <<@jolleyadventures7408 says : Carl Marx wondering what persentage black his daughter’s husband is instead of killing him upon their first kiss is night and day to many capitalist leaders.>> <<@Boris_Medved says : My goodness a guy whose book was published in 1848 had views that are not acceptable now? Who knew? Come on guys this was before the us civil war. The man wasn’t a saint. That doesn’t discredit everything he said.>> <<@jaz4691 says : Well it wasn't actually spelled the way we might think. It was the German word for "negro" which is n-e-g-e-r and was the most respectful adjective available at the time. This is taking it out of context and wrapping it for the purpose of dismissing the writings and ideology and avoiding any meaningful discussion or understanding of the topic.>> <<@dosphari says : Still gonna read Capital from Marx.>> <<@obiwanjabroniX says : Source?>> <<@TimiTiittanen says : But marx supported lincoln, the ending of slavery and freedom for all? So seems not stable and mayby his opinions changed alot>> <<@Objohn says : African American leftist movements appear to be astonishingly ignorant to the history of their own orthodoxy. The conversion to Islam by many black revolutionaries appears absurd given the Arab slave trade. Revolting from one oppressor and aligning with a greater oppressor makes no sense. Aligning with the ideology Marx, a rabid anti black racist, also makes no sense unless ignorance is a key factor>> <<@Itisbeejoe says : This professor just said "I GUESS he's cuban to SOME DEGREE">> <<@veicento says : this is a strawman anda double standard. not too long ago. "negro", and even "nigger" were considered the proper and most common way to refer to a black person in the english speaking world.with, or without ill intent>> <<@stephenalexander6721 says : People on the left will find a way around that. It probably won't make any sense, but they will believe it.>> <<@3reHYeager says : Lmfao "people should know Marx's view on race" and then points out the times when Marx used the word not when he actually talked about slavery, it wasn't even deemed as a slur when he wrote those letters. Making personal attacks when you can't quote him right or even disprove his theories is classic propaganda>> <<@rederickfroders1978 says : Henry ford was a massive antisemite. Why are you all riding cars from the production line?>> <<@justinotr2729 says : That's a lie. But I don't get it is he trying to make Marx sympathetic to right wingers?>> <<@picklerick8844 says : Marx was racist and that made him a bad person but that definitely doesn't warrant undermining his ideas on economics.>> <<@teasquared09 says : Such bullshit>> <<@JJaguar333 says : Marx was racist and so was Bakunin. That was the 19th century. It still doesn’t discredit his ideas. It just shows the mentality of the time.>> <<@papericard says : ad hominem>> <<@true3d says : I would double check anything, when Peterson is around. Considering the times the Communist Manifesto was written, I do have real doubts about this. Both were educated. Engels was actually rich and a capitalist. Maybe that is why he is largely written out from history. But he did have the insider knowledge of the system and capitalism I don't think Marx could have written DAS KAPITAL without him. What you are implying that Marx was a racist. Considering that Germany had very few people of any color at that time, at what point he came to a conclusion that it is fine. While other countries are using similiar words, it isn't a degraded version. No negative connotation. So I am quite skeptical, about the subject and the timing. As the US is in the second stage of fascism, it is pretty peculiar to talk about Marx or anyone else in relation to socialism or communism. I don't know how much they pay you, but it isn't enough for discrediting yourself.>> <<@Lordofthegeeks108 says : Wow. It's almost as if these self proclaimed Marxist "experts" haven't read a single word that he wrote.>> <<@kevinkevin-kevin says : Marx was one of the earliest radical European thinkers to call for the complete abolition of black slavery, without compromise. “Labour in the white skin can never emancipate itself as long as labour in the black skin is branded.” — Karl Marx, Capital, Volume I “The workingmen of Europe feel sure that as the American War of Independence initiated a new era of ascendancy for the middle class, so the American Anti-Slavery War will do for the working classes.” — Marx, 1864, letter to Abraham Lincoln Yes, Marx used slurs in private letters but that doesn’t make him a racist in political terms. In a private letter to Engels (1862), Marx referred to Ferdinand Lassalle as having a “negro’s features” and used the word “yid” (in German) for another person. That kind of language is unacceptable by today’s standards, no doubt. But it was typical 19th-century polemic, and Marx used insults liberally (including against white Germans, the English, the French, Jews, Slavs, Russians, and even himself). His use of slurs in personal insults doesn’t equal support for racial hierarchy or white supremacy. It was crude, not ideological racism. Marx supported Black resistance and revolts. He praised, the Haitian Revolution led by Black slaves and the John Brown raid on Harper’s Ferry; a violent anti-slavery uprising by an abolitionist with Black support. He also praised the actions of Black workers in the U.S. South as part of the revolutionary class struggle. He condemned European imperialism in India, Ireland, Africa, and the Caribbean. He called colonisers “vampires” who “suck the blood” of indigenous and enslaved peoples. Dr. Paul Kengor: proof that you can get a PhD and still rely on cherry-picked 19th-century insults to score 21st-century culture war points. Less historian, more propagandist with tenure.>> <<@Intensive_Porpoises says : With anything else lefties would dismiss anything the person had ever said, if they found out this person held racist views. As if their ideas had been infected. Like holding an intellectual grudge. Not so with Marx I guess. You'd think a sane person would see Marxist ideas and laugh at them, but they're held up instead! 🤦‍♂️ They must have an ulterior motive. Perhaps the power and control they accuse others of.>> <<@martinnylund4752 says : You can tell Jordan Peterson whatever you want about communism and Marx and he will believe it because he is a spoiled illiterate upper class brat who thinks he knows best. He is too lazy to even open a book and read it. He only regurgitates lies and his own interpretations of Marx and communist ideology. A deeply anti-democratic stance that is terrible. Here are some examples of the pure errors he regurgitates. He claims that Marx says that history is the history of the struggle between two classes. I urge everyone to look up The Communist Manifesto online and read the first sentence. There you can read "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles. Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes." Plural that is. He also talks about the dictatorship of the proletariat when he reviews the Communist Manifesto and it is a very controversial concept that is never mentioned in the Communist Manifesto. Marx and Engels' view of society and history is and was something that is constantly being developed and reinterpreted. It goes without saying that Marx could not have been right about everything since he is a product of his time and the capitalist mode of production. Just as everyone is a product of the society they live in. It is one of the cores of the Marxist and historical materialist analysis and perception. Jordan Peterson does not even want to explain society while Marx wanted to change it. Anti-communists in the world tremble for knowledge and enlightenment because they know that millions and millions of workers and oppressed people in the world have and will read Marx and what he wrote will feel very logical. However, what I have heard from Petersen within his expertise can certainly be relevant and useful. I have not studied them carefully but they can certainly be used in a good way. In the same way, everyone should always strive to increase their level of knowledge on all levels. They can never take your knowledge away from you but they already own your work.>> <<@Simon-kd3jc says : We don’t idolize Marx as a person, we idolize his ideas. You all seem to get into cults of personality too easily>> <<@SalamanderEnjoyer says : Are they stupid? This is litterally a lie>>