Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@TomBilyeu says : What is your most useful tip you can share that helps you get the upper hand when negotiating?>> <<@wendellsimsTOAO says : Tom do you realize how many that's right you got from Chris lol I've never seen that in any of his interviews 😅. You wouldn't have got that without doing your homework homework>> <<@corinamihaelabejan9545 says : Spectacular ❤️ Chris Voss's most known book just changed my life (from the negotiation point of view)>> <<@lajoiedevivre2 says : Chris has too high a stake in his own self assessment. It might sound good and it certainly puts a lot of pressure on the person to evolve and get better. Somehow the larger picture is that it creates a hell inside long-term>> <<@alexnuusila says : This Tom guy seems like a really kind NPC.>> <<@donmaxwell4567 says : Folks can anyone reference soulja nitsans book the gulag archipelago? looking for year or volume #>> <<@janethelm5399 says : H>> <<@brettwheeler7753 says : Every man in the world who needs to deal with a female in any capacity needs to listen to this and LEARN these techniques.>> <<@yvonnehyatt8353 says : I wish Chis could help the Vice President for the next week and will the both of you please study- John Demartini . Thanks>> <<@gabrielm6221 says : I managed to secure at least 2 big deals thanks to this man's book. Thanks Chris.>> <<@boomcon says : Unwatchable : the most advertising out of any podcasts aaand on top he also adds integrated spoken ones - some never have enough>> <<@dojo_134 says : Chris Voss almost sound demonic encouraging homosex. Used to watch this content but not anymore.>> <<@ritacummings804 says : Chris Voss has so much excellent information for us.>> <<@shamaniworld528 says : ❤❤❤>> <<@roberthickenbottom4719 says : why isolate listeners by swearing. love your show but had to stop. Just wanted you to know.>> <<@dani_capar says : Get the moms>> <<@marcpujols says : 🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 01:56 🤯 *FBI negotiation training includes intense scenarios, exposing trainees to real stories, emphasizing the philosophy that "a hostage has never been killed on deadline in the United States ever."* 03:20 🔄 *Negotiators who've experienced a siege with fatalities often either leave the profession or become more courageous in challenging command decisions, advocating for a safer approach.* 05:12 🔍 *Chris Voss shares a case involving the Burnham family in the Philippines, highlighting the complexities of hostage situations that can last for months.* 09:22 🚶‍♂️ *Chris discusses his natural inclination to run from challenging situations but learned to override it for the sake of duty and responsibility during high-stakes negotiations.* 15:54 🧠 *Chris emphasizes that leading by example is crucial, but sometimes, additional mentoring or allowing individuals to find their own path is necessary for personal growth.* 18:28 💪 *The concept of "post-traumatic stress growth" is discussed, exemplified by individuals who turn traumatic experiences into opportunities for self-improvement and resilience.* 21:48 😢 *Chris reflects on the emotional impact of losing someone during a hostage situation, gaining perspective by comparing personal feelings to those of a negotiator dealing with a child's death.* 22:47 🤔 *Chris delves into his decision to volunteer for crisis response, acknowledging the challenges and emotional toll that come with such responsibilities.* 23:29 🧠 *Chris Voss, a former FBI negotiator, shares his initial naive approach to negotiation, thinking it would be easy.* 24:25 🗣️ *Negotiation is about understanding what matters to the other side, and it's not necessarily logical; it's about perceived losses.* 25:35 🤔 *When faced with a negotiation, Voss advises understanding the losses that drove the other party to the table and what losses they are avoiding by their actions.* 28:38 🏦 *In hostage situations, the negotiator aims to re-engineer the outcome by redirecting the focus to losses the other side might incur.* 30:32 📞 *Voss shares a surprising success tactic: invoking concern from a terrorist's mom, revealing a common human thread even in such extreme situations.* 36:21 🧘 *Voss discusses the universal driver of human decision-making: the perception of loss, and how terrorists are motivated by perceived losses they aim to address through violence.* 39:29 🔄 *To change minds in negotiations, Voss emphasizes the importance of reframing the perceived losses, as the way the loss is presented significantly impacts decision-making.* 41:30 🤝 *Voss categorizes terrorist groups into three: charismatic leaders, sociopathic middlemen, and inadequate followers, each motivated by perceived losses in different ways.* 45:39 🤷‍♂️ *Despite dealing with intense situations, Voss remains optimistic, understanding that certain behaviors are rooted in common human wiring, especially under extreme stress.* 47:58 🕵️‍♂️ *In hostage negotiation, understanding the emotional state of hostages is crucial, as demonstrated by a case where a negotiator shifted from being in charge of negotiations to a jailer but maintained the hostages' trust by recognizing their emotional needs.* 50:32 🔄 *The captors' behavior varied; one, a sociopathic murderer, showed a surprising level of care for the hostages' emotional well-being, illustrating the complexity of human nature and the adaptability of individuals in different roles.* 51:14 🧠 *The story prompts reflection on the potential for good and evil in every human, challenging preconceptions and highlighting the malleability of human behavior based on roles and circumstances.* 53:48 🩺 *Mental health debriefing is crucial for hostages, providing catharsis by allowing them to share their experiences without the pressure of extracting information, contrasting with traditional investigative interviews that can be exhausting and detrimental.* 54:15 📚 *Reference to Solzhenitsyn's "The Gulag Archipelago" sparks a discussion about the potential for darkness within individuals, exploring the concept of how ordinary people could turn cruel under certain circumstances.* 57:44 🔄 *The conversation delves into the belief that everyone has a spectrum of capabilities for both kindness and evil, emphasizing the importance of personal values and the ability to learn and grow from failures.* 01:00:44 🔄 *Self-perception, framed by core values, plays a crucial role in navigating challenges. A discussion on the idea of remembering who you are as a tool to shift neurochemistry and maintain an optimistic perspective in the face of failures.* 01:03:17 🤝 *Negotiation strategy involves assembling a team to analyze the vast amount of information conveyed by the subject, paying attention to factors such as conversation duration, profanity, and emotional adjectives to gauge progress.* 01:09:19 🔄 *In a high-stakes negotiation scenario with potential explosives, understanding the subject's beliefs, in this case, religious hints, played a critical role. The story of Dwight Watson's surrender highlights the importance of interpreting subtle cues to influence behavior and prevent harm.* 01:11:16 🤔 *Understanding the context: Chris Voss shares a scenario where negotiation involves saving someone engaged in suspicious activity to prevent potential harm.* 01:12:27 🧠 *Uncovering hidden information: Voss emphasizes the importance of listening for hints of loss, impacted identity, and narratives to reveal what matters to the other party.* 01:13:08 🎭 *Scripting and improvisation: Voss suggests scripting the first lines of negotiation and then ad-libbing, allowing the other person to lead the conversation while maintaining flexibility.* 01:15:53 🚗 *De-escalation technique: In a personal confrontation, Voss shares a story of diffusing tension by expressing genuine concern, asking, "Are you okay?" to shift the dynamic positively.* 01:19:39 🔄 *Selfish altruism: Voss acknowledges the selfish aspect of helping others, stating that it makes him feel genuinely better, aligning with the philosophy of leaving people better than you found them.* 01:26:23 🧘 *Emotional control and peak performance: Voss explains that while anger can lift someone out of sadness, it only brings them to a C-level performance, emphasizing the importance of reaching a positive, flow state for peak performance.* 01:29:23 🌅 *Positive framing for emotional control: Voss discusses the power of reframing situations by choosing phrases that shift perspectives, such as "life is happening for you," to navigate negotiations more effectively.* 01:33:06 🧠 *Use open-ended questions strategically:* - Why questions can be accusatory, while how questions invite in-depth thinking. - How questions trigger slow, logistical thinking and feel deferential, promoting collaboration. 01:34:32 🔄 *Implement a gradual "no" to avoid resistance:* - When saying no, let it out a little at a time to avoid blindsiding the other party. - Use "how am I supposed to do that" to get them thinking about the difficulty and collaborate on solutions. 01:36:12 🚫 *Handle saying no without shutting down the other party:* - Release a gradual "no" to avoid blindsiding. - Use "how am I supposed to do that" to make them consider the difficulty, fostering collaboration. 01:39:17 💰 *Traceable ransom payments as an investigative tool:* - Tracing money in ransom payments can expose criminal networks, aiding investigations. - Injecting traceable money is like dye in their financial system, revealing arms dealers, safe houses, and more. 01:41:09 🤔 *The power of getting people to say "no":* - People feel safe and protected when saying no. - When mentally exhausted, saying no is easier than saying yes or answering how. 01:43:16 🔄 *The importance of uncertainty in negotiations:* - Never be so sure of what you want that you wouldn't take something better. - Let the other side talk more; aim for them to talk five times as much as you do. 01:45:21 🏷️ *Use "labels" as a negotiation technique:* - Employ go-to labels like "seems like" to disarm and encourage the other party to share their thoughts. - Encourage the other side to talk and collaborate by making them feel it's okay to share. 01:47:15 🦢 *The Black Swan Way's core tenets:* - Let the other side go first. - Aim for the other side to talk five times as much. - Use go-to labels for disarming and encouraging collaboration. Made with HARPA AI>> <<@jfilm7466 says : 13:00 My kids have always got right up, even if they were crying, they were up and ready just like dad and grandpappy.>> <<@sandytw5229 says : Great interview & love how Tom was so into it! Good Job 🎉>> <<@oznetyoutube125 says : Chris is a Game Changer in All facets of Life. TY for the insight !!>> <<@Gigi-Anai8c7l says : Chris is The Man, I love his brain and empathy! On the other side: the host's hair is triggering my OCD uugghhh!!!!!!!!!!!>> <<@ytpah9823 says : 🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🤝 Chris Voss discusses his approach to initiating a negotiation, aiming to ensure safety and dignity for the person involved. 01:28 👊 The FBI's intense training methods for negotiators are revealed, including the philosophy that hostages are never killed on a deadline in the United States. 03:49 🔄 Discussing the emotional toll of a failed negotiation, Voss explains his focus on ensuring the highest chance of success and the mental preparation required for facing adverse outcomes. 04:30 🔁 Voss provides a case study of a prolonged hostage crisis in the Philippines, illustrating the complexity and longevity of certain negotiation scenarios. 07:03 🌐 The universality of hostage negotiation techniques is emphasized by Voss, explaining how these methods can be adapted across different cultures and situations by coaching a local negotiator. 08:15 🧠 Voss discusses his mental state when faced with the death of a hostage during a negotiation, emphasizing the necessity to remain focused and suppress emotions to continue the work effectively. 09:36 👨‍👦 Chris Voss emphasizes the importance of family identity and value systems, highlighting his and his father's role in teaching resilience and strength to his son. 10:17 🤝 The ability to handle conflict and discomfort is crucial in negotiation, as illustrated by Voss's extreme examples from his experience. 12:11 🚴‍♂️ He shares a specific example of his parenting approach, describing how he instilled the values of self-reliance and hard work in his son. 16:21 🌱 He touches on the idea that foundational values imprinted in childhood will guide individuals as they navigate challenges later in life. 17:05 💪 Voss cites the concept of post-traumatic growth, using the example of an athlete who turned a severe injury into an opportunity to improve himself. 18:42 🧘‍♂️ He contemplates the mental processes involved in coping with stress and trauma during high-stakes negotiations, stressing the importance of maintaining focus under pressure. 19:39 🏈 The difficulty of maintaining team success post-victory is compared to the reduced cooperation Chris Voss faced in a negotiation case after an initial success. 20:06 💔 As the situation worsened and lives were lost, Voss felt increased responsibility and pressure in the case's outcome. 21:04 🚨 Voss experienced a professional low when a pivotal subject in a negotiation was killed, reflecting a deeply personal impact on him. 21:48 🔄 He shares a moment of perspective-shifting, realizing his personal grief doesn't equate to the loss felt by the victim's family, highlighting the emotional challenges in crisis negotiation. 28:12 🏦 He draws an analogy to bank robberies, where the goal is to ensure enough evidence is left behind to pursue the criminal after the immediate threat is neutralized. 29:19 🔄 Voss explains the technique of devaluing hostages as bargaining chips while simultaneously humanizing them to their captors to discourage harm. 29:48 💡 Engaging with the human aspect of an adversary can disrupt their patterns and invoke empathy. 32:24 😕 Simple, humanizing tactics in negotiation can feel counterintuitive but can be surprisingly effective. 33:50 📞 Invoking the concern of a hostage's mother can cause even a terrorist to respond with reassurance. 35:39 🌐 Terrorists' connections to their mothers can be a powerful lever in negotiations, a trend supported by data. 37:20 🧠 Common human desires, like being heard and feeling in control, are effective negotiation points. 37:50 🔄 Loss aversion is a key driver in human decision-making, a concept utilized in negotiation to influence behavior. 39:58 💲 Entrepreneurs may risk future gains for immediate payoffs when influenced by examples from their peers. 40:44 🔄 Reframing a loss as a more significant future gain can be a powerful negotiation tactic. 41:15 🧠 The universal driver of human decision-making is the avoidance of loss. 43:20 🕒 Perceptions of a large payoff can keep individuals committed to a cause for extended periods. 44:15 🕵️‍♂️ Covert operations may involve the use of informants and tracking devices to influence outcomes. 45:10 🌍 The nature of humanity is viewed optimistically despite evidence of manipulability and potential for violence. 48:25 💔 The psychological state of hostages is crucial for kidnappers to manage logistical challenges. 50:02 😮 Interrogation is exhausting for investigators and cathartic for hostages. 50:32 😕 Hostage bonds with a sociopathic captor due to occasional acts of kindness. 51:27 🤔 Discussing the complex nature of humans and the potential for both cruelty and care within individuals. 52:35 🚫 Differentiating between captors’ motivations, contrasting sadism with practicality. 53:05 💆‍♂️ Promotion of mental health awareness and the benefits of therapy. 58:12 🔬 Discussion of the spectrum of human capability for both good and evil actions. 59:09 🔄 The importance of self-reflection and aspiration after personal failure or moral lapses. 59:50 🔄 Our self-perception as capable or good influences our actions and outlook. 01:00:44 🧠 A personal mantra can alter one's mindset and neurochemistry quickly. 01:02:09 💭 Deeply ingrained beliefs or "two lines of code" in our psyche influence our identity and reactions. 01:03:03 🚀 An optimistic core belief can helpone overcome defeat and learn from it. 01:04:17 🤝 Understanding core values is key to becoming a good negotiator. 01:06:35 🔍 Recognizing patterns in communication is crucial for negotiation strategies. 01:07:43 💣 High-stakes negotiations may involve complex scenarios requiring careful de-escalation. 01:09:06 ⏳ Understanding an adversary's personal background, such as religion, can be pivotal in negotiation. 01:09:47 🗣️ Effective negotiation requires strategic communication; anticipate the other party's responses to guide the conversation. 01:10:16 ✝️ Utilizing cultural or religious symbols can be a decisive factor in influencing the opposition's decisions. 01:12:12 🧠 Identifying and leveraging 'unknown unknowns' (Black Swan events) is crucial in high-stakes negotiation. 01:14:26 🗨️ Scripting the opening lines of a negotiation while being ready to improvise can set the stage for a favorable outcome. 01:17:33 😌 Persistently offering gestures of goodwill, even when initially rejected, can eventually lead to a peaceful resolution. 01:18:02 🧘‍♂️ Empathy for others' struggles can lead to more compassionate interactions. 01:18:42 💬 Engaging in confrontation may serve a personal emotional need rather than just being about the issue at hand. 01:20:20 ⚖️ Belief in karma and positive energy influencing interactions and life outcomes. 01:20:47 🗣️ Assertiveness is a natural response to confrontation for the speaker, aiming not to escalate but to improve situations. 01:21:30 🚂 Intervention in public disagreements can prevent escalation and help reframe the conflict for the individuals involved. 01:23:06 🤝 Using polite approaches such as apologies and introductions to de-escalate tense situations. 01:24:55 🧠 Emotional intelligence involves recognizing when someone is acting out due to their own issues and not taking it personally. 01:28:29 🛹 The state of flow can empower individuals to surpass physical limitations and perform unprecedented acts, like skateboarding over the Great Wall of China with a broken ankle. 01:29:49 🔮 Preparation and practice are key to harnessing emotional control and achieving one's ideal state of mind, even under stress. 01:30:46 🤥 Handling negotiations with people who have opposing values can trigger negative emotions, which hampers preparation and cognitive function. 01:32:26 🧠 Humans have a default negative circuitry, a survival trait inherited from ancient ancestors. 01:34:05 🤝 Deferring to the other party by asking how you can meet their demands invites collaboration and helps identify the feasibility of the situation. 01:34:47 🔍 Strategic use of questions in negotiation helps diagnose the situation without triggering defensiveness. 01:35:57 🚫 Letting out 'no' gradually in a negotiation prevents blindsiding and allows the other party to adjust to the refusal. 01:36:52 💡 Calibrated questions are used to create a state change and promote thinking. 01:37:19 🚦 There is a progression of ways to say "no" that allows for gradual escalation and maintains collaboration. 01:37:52 🤝 The goal of negotiation is collaboration, not rushing to say "no" which may shut down opportunities for better solutions. 01:42:33 🧠 When mentally exhausted, people find it easier to say "no" than "yes," which can still lead to closing a deal effectively. 01:43:16 🕳 Saying "no" feels like there's no obligation, leading to more open and honest dialogue. 01:45:21 🏷️ Use labels like "seems like" to acknowledge and validate what the other person is saying, encouraging further conversation. 01:46:19 ❓ "How are you?" is often not a genuine inquiry into one's state but a gauge of their readiness to engage. 01:47:00 🎁 Be open to better outcomes than what you initially want by letting the other party contribute ideas. 01:47:15 🕊️ Triggering the "black swan", a small but pivotal detail, can lead to making great deals. 01:47:30 🔄 The negotiation principles in Chris Voss's book are worth revisiting and can be applied in various high-stakes situations. 01:47:44 💡 These negotiation techniques are versatile and applicable in personal, team, and even marital discussions.>> <<@organizer14 says : Thanks so much for sharing your unique gifts with your fans! 😅>> <<@organizer14 says : Both of you are truly awesome! So enlightening! Many many thanks! ❤🎉>> <<@Paul-Dugg-x5 says : Damn Tom, I love you, but you’ve gotta let your guests speak and stop butting in 😔>> <<@Gameboob says : On that mom stuff and terrorist negotiations, the thing is in Muslim cultures mom's are more respected than in the west. This was highlighted in a cultural psychology course I took where the absurd question was asked in the case where you can only save your child, your spouse, or your mom, who would you pick, Westerners tended to save the child, and Muslims tended to choose moms with the explanation that you only have one and can't make any more. That love and respect goes deep. Westerners trend to just shed their parents after they don't need them anymore.>> <<@o.s.s.fitnessandgrappling1052 says : ONE OF MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITES!!! LOVE THAT BOOK.>> <<@FrankZaffa says : 46:14 Tom mis-quoted Solzhenitsyn. It should be: "The line separating good and evil passes... through every human heart". Completely different meaning!!>> <<@jaigaines says : 1:16:48 🧯there have been so many times that I would have attempted to explain myself just like that; but, anger is inductive and I failed to stay present of mind and allowed myself to be overcome emotionally just because the other person emotionally unchecked.>> <<@AkshatKumarSrivastava says : I really don't understand why so few people are following his teachings>> <<@md82892 says : From the video here are some key points about negotiating and understanding human nature: 1-Successful negotiation relies on understanding human wiring and what really motivates people. Loss is often the biggest driver of human behavior, so re-framing potential losses is key. 2-Asking "how" questions instead of "why" invites collaboration and gets people thinking more deeply. Getting people to say "no" makes them feel safer and more willing to open up. 3-Labeling responses like "seems like you have a reason for saying that" keeps conversations going. Letting the other person talk more reveals valuable information. 4-Being genuinely concerned for the other person, even in tense situations, can disarm and change their thinking. Appealing to shared humanity like "moms" can work too. 5-Prepare opening lines, but go off script later. Control anger, don't let it control you. Get yourself in a positive state of mind. Have mantras to re-center yourself. 6-There are common psychological threads in human nature, even among criminals and terrorists. But people have capacity for both good and evil - focus on bringing out the good. 7-The key is understanding human motivations and wiring to influence people positively and create win-win scenarios. Tactics like asking certain questions can make people feel safe to open up and collaborate.>> <<@tomjeff1743 says : Lou Holtz would say that people are born with a certain amount of talent based on their genetics, which is obviously beyond our control. Then he says there are two things within our control. our motivation which is self discipline and our attitude>> <<@JohnJones-dc2qw says : Remember who you are. Interesting. 1:02:39 1:02:39 I learned we are a perfect spirit living in human experience and our spirit will empower us when we call upon it. I do it everyday and it has changed my life in the past year>> <<@TheMoonDejesus says : Out of the gate horrible interviewer. Why would he interrupt his story about training to quote his book and throw him off.>> <<@NelsonConroyRealtor says : Tom I have been a student of Chris Voss’ using his techniques in my real estate brokerage. You did a fantastic job on this interview bringing out the emotional & personal side of Chris! Thank you Tom>> <<@phoustonnow says : Wait, you don't know who Cooper Kupp is?>> <<@Medietos says : Better help may be good for mainstream problems, but they lack the choice to check some otehr issues, or to write it out oneself. And suicidal thoughts get rejected, without any question av´bout the cause.: Not having got therapy for decades...!And the choice of therapy strewngths, they don't give any coptions except the ones that they decided. I might check again so I am reviewing the correct company.>> <<@Medietos says : I have listened to Chris Voss before and was desperately hoping that he'd now talk about the OTHER side. Teach us to communicate efficiently and save ourselves when unjustly seized by Police and the like for no reason and disturbed by them, deceived and lied to, given false promises of help, having nothing sensible to say or do, and keeping me, talking repetitive trivia, tiring, robbing me of my peace, time and energy. I was JUST disturbed by 2 men who were later said to be from the volunteer RescueService. They have their station 300 meters from my refuge, and after years of not getting help, I finally knocked to ask for help but was rejected. I´t felt strange that they turned up today for no reason. Then came an ambulance nurse and her driver, the 2 policemen. I could really use all of their know-how, but not taken by surprisen unexoeb´cted, trespassing on my privacy, where I was on the phone acutely with a healer. And they had nothing to say, baad communication skills, bad answers to my utterances and questions, no psychological intelligence or people-knowledge. What is hapopening, is it the cell phone radiation doing it? Sweden has 1000's of time higher border values than other countries, maybe to make us just as tired, stressed, stupid-seeming as we have become?I didn't know whether to cry or laugh. Too tense to laugh, with the impact of much abuse and crimes being done to me since decades. Please Tom , get someone who can help a traumatized Aspergers to get one's lawful, doctors-referred, well-known need of help, how to get it, how to talk to inefficient, empty, immature professionals. Superficial kindness and calmness don't deceive me any´more, they are just acting. Even admitted that they didn't care but only went where they were told. I want it to stop and get proper, adequate help and damages.>> <<@BarbarellaAmericana says : Just learned about Chris this past week & his body of work, fascinating, inspiring , awesome... let's hear more from peeps like him ! >> <<@ottoohno1431 says : Tom I have to say… you find unique ways to make these conversations about yourself. Your questions are not as profound as you think. The vocal fry you add does not make you sound as intellectually curious as you think it does.>> <<@ottoohno1431 says : I think I’m going to make the statement that Chris Voss is brilliant. Literally brilliant. His vocabulary is simple. Because of that his ability to communicate and educate others on highly complex ideas of human nature can n a digestible manor is second to none.>> <<@feyolopez2520 says : Thank you👍 It is very compelling 💎>> <<@msudak4 says : Hey, quit butting in with your input, just ask relevant questions and let Chris talk>> <<@peteweishaupt says : To paraphrase Charles Dickens, this was the best interview ever, and the worst interview ever.>> <<@zentzu4003 says : ‘remember who you are’ Big up to Mufasa>> <<@travishalvorson6377 says : I am the complete opposite. I have no issue with confrontation. I am always focused on the result, even beyond myself. The idea of self goes out the window, and I only want to win. The issue though, if I am forgetting about myself, I'm not thinking of others necessarily, and it doesn't occur to me that others can decompartmentalize and deal with confrontation, because I don't work that way. My goal with reading Chris's book, is learning how to pull back, think about the position of others, and break down wall of confrontation by being more positive and by effect draw the other person in. Not easy to do, since that isn't my personality.>> <<@ARYUSops says : For the first time in 5 years of listening to Tom’s outstanding interviews I felt like some questions he was asking here were inadequate or kind of pointless 🤔>> <<@zackzoe3541 says : Too much ads, I'm distracted>> <<@eugenberzani1216 says : "coming out" what a bullshit phrase. Why dont you stick to negotiating with kidnappers and some business deals instead of dealing with stupid mental illnesses based on nothing but money grab>> <<@ScoobyDoobyDooWhereArtThou says : 1:02:02 I swear what I heard was "two lines of coke". 🤣🤣>>