Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@khanetor says : Is it possible to install opensuse or fedora on the radxa?>> <<@si4632 says : You can get this sort of cpu power in a £99 smart phone now>> <<@kRySt4LGaMeR says : this was a great video. your presentation style is really good and straight to the point (which is really rare these days on youtube).>> <<@michaeljones6256 says : Chris, I wonder how the Rock5-itx will fare now that there is the edk2 uefi type bios is available to run the latest kernels on Ubuntu 25.10 with usb booting similar to the intel system you have shown?>> <<@karthikbalu5824 says : Pls include ai benchmark like even a simple yolov8 fps that would really help, atleast now we are in 2025>> <<@jondavidmcnabb says : Excellent quantitative review. Exceptional testing.>> <<@server1ok says : To my knowledge, you can't mine for prime numbers in Prime95 with the RK3588.>> <<@bengineering3d says : It would be interesting to see if there was a difference in power usage if you used the barrel jack on the motherboard as opposed to the power supply that came with the case.>> <<@an_guy_who_is_anti_mainmedia says : It's July 10 this video has 111k views with 1.11m subs isn't it amazing 😮😮>> <<@theevilwitchtheband says : After watching this video I just built a Rock 5 mini itx pc (32 Gb), it replaces a Dell micro with an Intel i5-6500T. Pros: lower consumption, better overall performance. Cons: Harder to fully install Debian 12 with Mali graphic drivers, slightly lower performance on 4k YouTube video reproduction... This video is to blame for this PC build!! Greetings from México!!!>> <<@GrxDrx says : Hi how did you put them both on the same desktop just different workspaces if you don't mind?>> <<@maxlee7977 says : Thanks a lot, goof man! Some real world tasks comparison, at last.>> <<@cslp9407 says : I downloaded some official but closed source software from the armsom google drive, before I saw the open source alternative, should I be concerned? Or am i safe>> <<@stanislavdaganov574 says : 15:23 The four core Intel with Integrated Graphics, with cheap AsRock motherboard, literally TRASHES the eight cr*p ARM cores, TWICE higher performance and quicker render. Meaning, that you need 16 similar ARM cores, to be equal to the 4-core Intel. CISC is still better than RISC. It is better to get to 22 W on demand, do the work, and then lower to 11 W, rather than not being able to do it, while "saving power".>> <<@joshhardin666 says : I'm shocked at the awful SSD speeds which is certainly due to not providing enough cpu lanes to those ssds on either system. The absolute minimum an m.2 slot should be iin 2025 is 4 lanes of pcie gen 4. These tiny computers that halve the pcie lanes are severely disappointing as for quite a few years now we've enjoyed sequential disk io of approximately 7gb/sec and on modern desktops that have gen5, you can purchase nvme drives that get you up to 12gb/sec. I feel like consumers should be demanding better. Similarly I would very much like to see sfp+ 10g ports on desktops and at least some sbcs as well as I would like to see more pcie lanes on modern consumer enthusiast CPUs in order to fit things like hbas, video capture boards, dedicated ai accelerators, secondary gpus, and more than 3 or so m.2 ssds.>> <<@ElTioDev says : la mejor comparación que he visto la más real la más certera la mejor explicada>> <<@diuran3029 says : next time try youtube 4k but 60 fps and I think this little arm base cpu will shit himself when intel will run almost fine. my N100 no issues on windows 11 to run 4k/60fps. on linux hmm I only run perfectly fine on Manjaro after installing different drivers or add for av1 decode from the shop app.>> <<@thanatosor says : Power Consumption + CPU Speed-Wise = RK3588 N100 only won in GL-based, graphic intensive task thanks to its iGPU.>> <<@fookschool says : Can you do computing per watt analysis of the 2 systems and possibly underclock the N100 system to make it a fair fight? Or maybe overclock the rk3588? I'm curious on those numbers. Another thing to look at is maybe a higher efficiency power source for the rock 5? I'm betting a decent amount of the power draw you saw was power supply losses.>> <<@yashesvi-raina says : I am so much amazed by RK3588 SoM! Wow>> <<@farishanafiah8461 says : This is the same debate we got with Windows. There's no denying ARM gives a much better energy efficiency, but x86 still has better desktop software compatibility. Personally, if I use more mobile apps than desktop softwares, then ARM would be the right choice.>> <<@kobial8406 says : I didn't hesitate to get RK3588 based NanoPC-T6 which is currently being used as a router, web and file server. Very happy with my choice.>> <<@fortdekoda6685 says : Awesome video>> <<@rraul says : Nice comparison. I Will take the RK cause its way cheaper here on Brazil ($100 USD) in 10 months payments>> <<@DAVIDGREGORYKERR says : Just thinking if you had 32GB of RAM installed things might go faster.>> <<@bunnatang2081 says : where is the power bo'on?>> <<@andreyl2705 says : awesome)>> <<@bertvantol9669 says : Now .... I've installed Windows 24H2 on my PC's I have problems with access to my NAS. Si I think about building my own NAS based on the RK3588 board shown here .... Can you show us how to do this ??>> <<@northwestrepair says : I came to watch ARM vs X86. Left disappointed.>> <<@mal-avcisi9783 says : n100 is a monster. i can run crysis on it.>> <<@radeksparowski7174 says : qualcomms snapdragon effed up badly, was overhyped and underperfomed for a not really competitive price....still with fears of compatibility issues....they have big shoes to fill if they want to break x86/x64.... apple is showing that it can be done /recently leaked m4 looks impressive/, china has a big opportunity to jump on the ship and make the tech affordable/cheap, using some form of linux it could break not only traditional cpus rule but also wipe out windows as OS on consumer devices>> <<@fedorgorbachev7846 says : Молодец. Отличное видео.😊>> <<@cje-crea says : AS usual a very good video. And Im glad that you do powertests aswell, as electrical power gets more and more expensive... in the whole of europe... (im from sweden) Note: Perharps the rk3588 is a bit OLD nowadays though. What happend to the arm system on a chip systems development, theye'we seen to just dont deliver any good new say 16 core arm sbc soc's alike Apple... What is happening. KDE is not the lightest desktop in the worls to run on a sbc with arm... Suggestion: Perhaps a video on different linux desktop tops such as cinnamon, ubuntu, kde, mate lxde lxqt etc... that would be interesting... OHH... THANKS AGAINS FOR YOUR VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND VIDEOS Chris!!! FANTSASTIC!😀>> <<@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 says : The arm sbc is the perfect home/small business router, firewall, NAS and DVR and it can do digital signage on three screens possibly simultaneously.>> <<@msn3wolf says : I have a question regarding the tests. The synthetic tests show that the Rock5 system is slightly faster than the N100 system, however the real application tests shows that the N100 system is almost twice as performant than the Rock5 one. Why is that? Could it be that the applications used are optimized for x86_64 systems? It would make sense since the availability of ARM desktop systems is fairly recent. I wonder how the applications comparison would be in a more ARM optimized environment like Android. Could you test Android-x86 vs Android-Arm applications on the on Rock5/N100 systems?>> <<@sgkonfetti says : You should consider having a look at the Minisforum UM890 Pro. https://store.minisforum.de/products/minisforum-um890-pro-mini-pc?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpcg&gad_source=1&variant=43028691189943>> <<@jeromeprin5668 says : hI! Could you test both with emulators like ps2 emulators? IS it possible to run those machines with an android OS?>> <<@ankersman says : I'm looking to upgrade my system. Being on 12 volt solar my reason is saying ARM but my heart is saying Intel. I would have to try hard to justify nearly 2 amps but best case my guess it would be consuming on average more like 1.>> <<@andresteenberg-yk5is says : that donssent anser my qasting telt my fraes it n diffirent way how can n 32 bit cpu go furder than 4gb of ram if 4 gb is the standerd>> <<@geraldmansfield2631 says : Do you have an email address? I would like council on finding a computer to replace the origional on my 1999 Dodge ram Van. Dodge ram computers are insufficient.>> <<@andresteenberg-yk5is says : i dont understand how does n 86x base setem have 8 gb of ram an can only go to 4 gb ram of ram becuse it is n 32 bit cpu but can it gohigher than 4 gb ram>> <<@sprockkets says : I think the H4 Ultra in a mini itx case is now the next computer I would build around, esp when it has 3 video outputs.>> <<@pr0jectSkyneT says : The Rock 5 power supply must be really inefficient because the Orange Pi 5 SBC uses the same 3588 SoC but it only idles at around 2 watts.>> <<@protocetid says : If I follow the crystal rabbit will it take me to the Matrix?>> <<@hsew says : I wish AMD had a greater presence in this market.>> <<@yagoa says : For context Mac M3 is 2771.72 using 9W(average) in Web BaseMark 3.0>> <<@jpdj2715 says : Chris, having watched your RISC V videos, did you have a chance already to play with the cluster board and (seven) Sipeed Lichee Pi 4A modules on it? It seems like a nice proposition to have a mini-ITX multiprocessor computer. Question (1) is if there's any intelligence in the backplane. Then the next question (2), as it can run a version of Linux, is if it can behave like one multiprocessor computer. And finally, (3) as there are micro-kernel OS around that sort of removed the performance/throughput disadvantage relative to monoliths, is there anything micro-kernel you would run on these kind of systems? And (4) would a micro-kernel facilitate other "processor model" [a] software deployments? As to your definition of the "RISC" concept, while your videos to large extent may be an oratio pro domo, there will be some naives among the viewers. For these, the definition may send the wrong message. Thoughts go back to the 80s when Intel CPU fanboys shouted to the Motorola fanboys that their Intel processors ran at a higher clock speed and the Motorola folk would reply that theirs did more work per clock-cycle (as it had more complex instructions). It is easier to make a processor run fast at simple instructions, yes. And in the case of RISC that's what is done. It's a bit like sensing an SQRT calculation to an FPU and having to wait for the precise result to come back. It's faster to do it in 4 instructions on the ALU. Still, it needs 4 instructions to do the same thing, rather than 1. A very fundamental question I did not see answered in the RISC V videos anywhere, and comparisons with ARM, is if the low power consumption of the ARM, that it had from the first prototype out of the fab/foundry, is because ARM (company) made such an electronically efficient logic design. Or is it because the processor was RISC. And this triggers another idea for a future video maybe. Most people have zero idea how chips become what they are: logical design of electronic circuits, simulation of the design in software, conversion into a physical design, evaluation of the physical design (and going back to logical design if there are issues), printing of the physical design. The last step being done with printers that will cost about 1 billion $/£/€ today - with a few of those printers already being able to go as fine as steps of 3 nano-meter (at work in TSMC). [a] in software analysis, the "processor model" describes how software (components) is/are deployed across multiple physical processors.>> <<@SourojitBh says : Awesome video again! I think I would prefer the RK3588.>> <<@sayantantelecom says : Say something about RG kar case in India and compare with tech scams>> <<@deodotusalvika8991 says : Which better dor nextcloud and webserver?>>