Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@JelleKuijpers-m7d says : handige tips!🔥>> <<@OldTweaker says : My pc does idle around 85w of electricity. If i want to save it , i'll just kill it.>> <<@Dave-um7mw says : Do we know if switching to popular Linux distros saves power as opposed to something like Windows 10 to the point where it's noticeable? Of course, this would be for light usage and idle, not so much gaming.>> <<@michaelrussell220 says : The use of AI is using massive amounts of electricity and anything we can do to mitigate is welcome.>> <<@hotdogsarepropaganda says : watching this video after undervolting my 7600X3D. pulling 32-45 watts when gaming at 1440. less than a fridge bulb. the savings over my old overclocked 6700k will pay for this cpu motherbaord and ram in 5 years>> <<@jjoulekelvin2986 says : The motherboard i have supports cpu that are 65w or less. But i have 77w cpu, how to limit the Cpu to 65w so that my motherboard runs without an issue.>> <<@KevinGoldLVL says : Very interesting,thank you, just ordered a watt meter too, will do my own testing at home>> <<@bieragaino440 says : Thanks!>> <<@wood6454 says : My country has the second highest electricity price in Southeast Asia alongside Singapore. Nearly 700% more than Malaysia's. So what I've done is I bought a broken Dell office computer, took its 220W power supply unit and used it on my personal computer. If they reported correctly in their documentation, the efficiency is similar to Gold/Platinum rated PSUs.>> <<@CyborgZeta says : My Intel Arc A770 GPU is probably the most power hungry thing in my current PC build. That said, I do not typically play demanding games, and I usually like to lock my games at 60FPS to reduce load and (in most cases) keep the GPU fans from coming on. So, while the Arc A770 is relatively power hungry, my typical use case keeps its power draw lower. If I didn't like playing games on Steam, I would probably switch to a tiny/mini PC with integrated graphics. Additionally, I do like dual monitors, but I may consider returning to using a single monitor in the future to help reduce power usage. With virtual desktops on KDE Plasma, it's pretty easy to get by without a second monitor.>> <<@JeremyLeePotocki says : I've been building energy efficient gaming PCs for years, and I focus on getting the right parts to do just that. Some things to note on desktop PC energy efficiency the motherboard is another factor from it's size to all the bells & whistles (including RGB). For example a non RGB riddled ITX board will consume less power than a full ATX board (with or without RGB lighting). Also Storage to have to be considered. The lowest power draw storage is a 2.5" SSD <3W next best is a Gen 3 NVME SSD at around 5W (Gen 4 and faster will consume more power too) while the biggest consumers is the traditional HDD at a max of 10W Right now my main rig is a I5-12500T for the CPU, and a RTX 4060 for the GPU with 7 SSD drives & 2 HDDs (5 of the SSDs are NVME). At gaming in 1080p it's around 130W ~ 165W at 4K 175W due to the 115W limit on the GPU. At lite work/IoT activities it's between 65-70W, and Idle it's 45W (my ASUS Z690 PRIME motherboard consumes half at idle). I could undervolt, but it'll only netting a 5-7W savings while causing issues with performance/stability. The best energy saver PC I have is my Steam Deck which is used in my Living Room, and for traveling with, but AAA gaming above 720p is out of the question to be honest. I plan to make a new PC for the living room with a ERYING ITX Motherboard (with a I5-12500H built in) and a RTX 3050 6GB model (70W max draw) My goal is to make the Desktop for 1080p gaming at around 105W minimum and 130W max (instead of 13W0~165W).>> <<@Broken_robot1986 says : We need a hamster driven Pi.>> <<@markbrad123 says : Mini PCS rock. Imacs guzzle power.>> <<@MajatekYT says : Low-wattage computing is also important for tiny and mobile homes where battery power (or power via a single domestic power extension lead) is typically the use case. A lot of new technology has come out since this video and you could easily make a complimentary video discussing desktop motherboards with soldered-on laptop processors (Erying is the biggest brand that makes these) and using laptops with external graphics card enclosures for wattage-consious gamers who don't want to use a lot of energy while browsing the internet but still want the graphical processing grunt to game at better framerates than integrated graphics can provide. Thanks for the video!>> <<@GOKULVOICE says : The way you explain about power saving is so interesting and now i considering to save power while using pc. Good info ❤️🌹🌺👌👍🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 i Gokul Madurai Tamilnadu India bye 👋>> <<@jonathanrider4417 says : Thanks for this Christoffer - If you do an update maybe consider some power consumption data for typical homes (just for comparison and context) such as heating, cooking, washing machine, dryer). Our power supplier here in BC offers a challenge and reward system to reduce consumption. Thanks so much for your extremely informative and interesting work. Please keep it up!!! Maybe consider comparing gaming computers, business models and home use models?>> <<@matthewgumabon7498 says : I recently built a fairly powerful gaming rig / workstation. It uses the latest gen high-end components, and after years of using fairly power efficient laptops, it is a bit of shock to have to think about using my gaming pc in the same I way I use aircondlting in terms of electrical costs. Power is not getting any cheaper where I live, so I kind of dug myself into a situation where I have PC hardware that costed a fortune to get, and costs a fortune to run.>> <<@PatrickSwayzeOnDbol says : 9:00 I call these Phantom devices.>> <<@titanuranus2136 says : A new ish feature that Nvidia has added to nvidia control panel is: 'background application max frame rate'. Whilst typing this comment my FPS in Valheim is limited to 30FPS, my 5800X3D is using 32W and geforce 3070 using 84 watts instead of 45W and 175W, a 104W saving. This also means that whenever i leave my PC with a game running i can press the windows key and FPS is instantly limited to 30FPS, saving significant power whilst I am letting the dog out etc. It is also worth limiting FPS in games, you dont really need over the refresh rate of your monitor, so I limit golbally to 163FPS (this will be done anyway if you use VSYNC). Also you dont really need 163FPS in turn based games like divinity original sin 2 or civilization, limiting it to 60 or 75FPS is still really smooth in this type of game, but will save 50-80W with my hardware. My GPU is also undervolted using MSI afterburner, instead of using 220-245W at full load it uses about 170-190W, depending on the game. I have lost about -100MHz core speed, but with +900MHz OC on the memory it actually benchmarks 2-3% faster in horizon zero dawn. It is also much quieter, less of a space heater and less fan wear. If i get around to learning how PBO works, i could undervolt my CPU and save another few watts. A 100W saving means £0.035 saved per hour, presuming it is still £0.35 per KWH on average.>> <<@akhil6095 says : What about under volting the CPU?>> <<@mihailvormittag6211 says : 👍>> <<@MrKor4k says : in case of hungry components, you can find out some pros, like "cook with geforce">> <<@RobsGamingNetwork says : This is a good topic. Detroit area charges obscene prices per kilowatt hour, but I just like 'going minimum'.>> <<@simonbeasley989 says : Modern monitors can be very efficient. Mine was a decent LED backlit one but at 8 years old with 2.5 years on all day working from home changed for a nice slim new one, cutting from 27w to 14w. Yes, not worth changing just for that but nice to know I'll be using a bit less, and as it was only around £90 once it reaches the age of the old one it will have saved most of its value in electricity.>> <<@MatthewKiehl says : When gaming, graphics settings can also make a big difference. Undervolting and frame caping (or using a form of vsync) can help. One form of small monitor that is often overlooked is portable monitors, they are basically laptop monitors. I also have a new Sega Genesis Mini 2, it uses only 5 watts (Plus a screen). I've moved away from laptops because of ewaste issues, but with customization, and a portable monitor, similar power consumption can be achieved.>> <<@joseabraham777 says : Great video, thanks.>> <<@shadowangel2235 says : Makes total sense to produce a energy saving video based on low energy consuming, completely outdated crap hardware instead of something people actually use nowadays, like an i9 or a Ryzen 9 with a 3090 TI.>> <<@IvicaAnteski says : software is another factor... using bloated graphical operating systems and applications loads the processor unnecessarily. For example, I use linux and mostly terminal applications like cmus (music), newsboat (rss), wordgrinder (word processor), htop (system monitor) etc. I even do 50% of my browsing in the terminal using w3m browser. When using all these programs my processor rarely goes above 1% and my ram usage stays bellow 400 or 500 MB max.>> <<@seekter-kafa says : next time connect laptop to outside monitor so we can see the difference in same environment>> <<@seekter-kafa says : i moved and now i use laptop connected to monitor and keyboard and smaller speakers and before i used gaming rig with powerful speakers (even though i never gamed or listen loudly) and better monitor , THE DIFFERENCE IS ASTONISHING now my flat uses 80kwh/month and before over 200 and the only difference is computer!>> <<@hofnaerrchen says : I think this is the single most important topic about computers that - especially when it comes to high end components and gaming - is not at all covered in detail that would be desirable.>> <<@ForestSchweitzer022097 says : Another added benefit of reducing electricity usage is also that it reduces your greenhouse gas footprint. Good for your wallet and also the environment.>> <<@bluemarble4051 says : Amazing video, thanks for detailed explanation.>> <<@lordrefrigeratorintercoole288 says : i found out that GPUs are the worst electrical consumers. The old RTX2060 for exameple uses 260w max the new RTX 3070 uses 300w max But when playing a game with the same High settings in 2k, the RTX 3070 consumes less W than the 2060.>> <<@Lesterandsons says : I saved more than 50w watts cutting power supply to all ideling products, I only use tower for demanding task. Nowadays laptops are relatively powerfull and very efficient. Most of time I use a tablet, and a raspberry for home automation (for driving heating system)>> <<@wedgie502 says : Something that us Ryzen users can do is to turn on "game mode" in Ryzen Master. This basically cuts your CPU in half, and you will use less power. Afterwards, you can underclock to save even more power if you wish. Of course, as a PC gamer, I keep all this turned up but have windows controlling my min/max CPU power so once I exit the game, my power draw drops significantly.>> <<@GiesbertNijhuis says : The energie wasted by the computer, keeps your hous warm! Nice in the winter, but not cool in the summer.>> <<@michaeljijus980 says : Ha ha!! This was really useful!! Thank you!!>> <<@linofreek52 says : My AMD A8 (10 Core) is using a Pico 12v 300w power board ... with a converted X Box power supply of 203 w ...the bios allows the CPU to run at 45 watts .. also it has AMD R7 Radeon on board graphics .. this machine now is very energy efficient for a mid tower ... i did this in view of the energy increase ..which went up even more today putting about 25% on my useage . I notice you make no mention of the Pico power boards which really are energy saving ... but you have to find a good power brick and the X Box does have that (£10 second hand E Bay) .. you have to cut the original connector and swap it . I have yet to test it using a Ge Force graphics card like a 750 TI .. to see how it goes with that .>> <<@HM-vo1jf says : Looking at Intel's latest presentation, they seem a little out of touch with the consumer interest in power efficiency, on desktops at least. Some catching up needs to be done with Apple, I'm not going there again.>> <<@mjc0961 says : The vampire power thing is especially true for modern video game consoles. Even if powered off, they're still on to listen for any signal from the wireless controllers to power back on. But most of them don't want to power off by default, they want to go into a standby mode so they can do crap like download updates in the background and power on slightly faster. I always power them off (no standby) and then kill them at the outlet. The supposed benefits aren't worth the power draw to me. TVs and all the various Chromecasts or Fire Cubes or whatever, too. They all want to drain power. Nah. I kill them at the outlet; when I actually need to use them again, flipping the outlet back on isn't a big deal. Get in the habit of properly switching off an entire home full of devices, and that's a more significant energy savings than most people would think.>> <<@esecallum says : Use a solar panel attached to a old car lead acid battery>> <<@pauld7827 says : A very interesting study. I built an AMD Ryzen tower with a NVidia graphics card, during lock-down. Nice fast computer, especially with NVMe disk drives but a little high in energy usage. I recently went back after 10 years, to a Mac. My desktop M1 Mac Mini is super fast and uses surprising little power. My M2 MacBook Air, seems to use very little power at all! It would be interesting to see how these compare with the computers in this study. This would very interesting, when these devices are pushed and compared with say, video editing. I have been following this channel for a couple of year or more and find it very interesting, if with a dry humour, 'Stanley the Knife' etc.! Small form factor PC's are very interesting for me, as they can be a cheap, low power, way to access an office computer from home. Very relevant in todays way of working.>> <<@BenKlassen1 says : Off topic but Cable TV/Satellite TV boxes need to be more energy efficient. Those things are power hogs!>> <<@KevinBenecke says : One thing I think you forgot to mention is that monitors often have their own menu with various functions. There may be additional power settings built into the monitor itself on desktop computers. As an example, in my monitor, there is even a setting to turn off that little LED that tells me the screen is on or in standby. In standby it goes on and off. I can actually turn it off completely if I want to.>> <<@magoolew5131 says : Here in the US, we can't switch off our mains supply with a switch like you folks have. I'd have to unplug everything from the wall.>> <<@Totogita says : I love your videos they are very informative, it is like going to school . Thank you for posting!>> <<@wereoctopus says : Upgrading a desktop's power supply is a good idea, though many prebuilt PCs (e.g. my 2019 Dell Inspiron small form factor desktop) have non-standard connections between the PSU and motherboard. I just bought a 500W 80+ Gold PSU, partly because I'd added a GPU card which, while modest, could exceed the original PSU's 200W rating under load. But to actually install it, I have to figure out(or research) the motherboard PSU connector's pinout and make a custom cable for it. Hopefully I won't fry the motherboard in the process ;-)>> <<@Mangomesh says : This is interesting, I just wish I had never built my Ryzen Threadripper back in 2020. This is the best video on Youtube, just wish I could salvage some components from my electricity hungry threadripper rig?>> <<@philcarey9207 says : An excellent video - as expected. But don't overlook the cost of running your router and UPS 24/7. My UPS uses about 14W continuously which at the revised cap will cost me £41.35 per annum. I'm tempted to do without it to save money and take the risk of damage and inconvenience of power cuts. A laptop connected to my monitor might be a nice solution.>>