Dope Tech Episode 2

<<@TomBilyeu says : What was your favorite takeaway from Dr. Huberman?>> <<@akadesaka says : This was so helpful and educational. Thank you. I will say to Andrew, Qi is not one thing. It could be dopamine too, but it’s not exclusively anything. It is energy, its movement, its function. It can be immunity/ the microbiome, it can be DNA, mitochondria.>> <<@Alien_at_Large says : This conversation perfectly explains why I have trouble concentrating on my homework if I play Candy Crush first. Thanks!>> <<@Alien_at_Large says : It's called "DOOM SCROLLING" 🤣>> <<@YSFmemories says : ok no andrew huberman is wrong about "qi". It has nothing to do with dopamine or pleasure lol. It's more like "mana" in rpg games. it's supposed to be an invisible force, like air, that you can direct and release outside your body like magic.>> <<@igormendonca4026 says : disagreeable ENFJ>> <<@NothingIsReal2.0 says : Not celebrating the win is another David goggins by “never arriving”>> <<@melodyandolivia says : I feel like he just totally explained cutting.>> <<@PULAG says : What if you deprive yourself of any and all dopamine, if possible? Instead of overload, have none. What would happen?>> <<@SilverStarGG says : Question about myself, I find myself in the past weeks trying new things - pole dancing, jiu jitsu, pilatis etc. and the pursuit of these new things makes me happy. Does it count as progressive expansion of the things that bring me pleasure or progressive narrowing? You could say that pursuing the new things by itself is narrowing but it's also expansion>> <<@haidyyousif2125 says : THANK YOU ,I Learn Plenty>> <<@noeldunn126 says : Good info. Pity Tom resorts to using F word in his podcasts so often. I'm sure he has an adequate vocabulary at his command to not have to do that. If I was his guest, and referred to as a MF, I would declare the discussion over and leave.>> <<@MentalBrothers says : How many layers is there to this? So take VIdeo games. I used to play Competative, so in that context. Is it so layer 1, you should do something and you logging into the game is the reward. And then layer 2, You work with 4 other people for 4 hours, and in the end you either win or you loose, but if you win you get a dopamine rush and you worked for it for 4 hours. Or would Layer 2 be good enough. And also the tolerance of said a ctivity must come into place aswell i guess. so its about the buildup, taking a break from competing in video games (How long) and then coming back in with no tolerance to dopamine. Is that tolerance dopamine linked to f.eks Training dopamine? so if i won 4 matches of 4 hours, and then went to train would i get less Dopamine then if i didnt play those 4 matches? After watching alot of your videos im pretty sure i have a serious issue with dopamine, and im starting to get some small parts of it under control using the tools you are teaching, but i feel like there is so much more to learn about it.>> <<@ritsukohairsalon says : how do you self reward and have our brain secretes dopamine? Shall I say good job to myself? I usually don't feel that good saying good job to myself.>> <<@bavsingh1497 says : Amount of ads is ridiculous>> <<@andrewday7799 says : Does anyone else hate that we are essentially slaves to molecules in our brain?>> <<@ajmarr5671 says : Quick Motivational Procedure that you never heard of involving the management of positive affect. Want to make popcorn taste better? Then eat popcorn while watching an exciting movie. We ‘know’ this non-consciously when we buy the stuff for the latest Tom Cruise movie. The reason? Opioid-dopamine interactions. Opioid and dopamine systems are comprised of clusters of brain cells or ‘nuclei’ in the midbrain that adjoin each other. Opioids cause pleasure or ‘liking’ and are activated in sex, eating, resting, etc., and dopamine systems cause attentive arousal or ‘wanting’ and are activated by the perception or anticipation of novel and positive means-end expectancies, like that Tom Cruise movie. These two systems interact, thus if we do something pleasurable, we get aroused, and if we get aroused our pleasures increase. This also happens when we follow a resting protocol such as mindfulness, and alternate it with the anticipation and performance of meaningful behavior which may be defined by the virtual perception of novel and positive mean-end expectancies (writing your great novel or just making the bed). So just get rested and alternate with doing meaningful behavior, and you will have such ‘flow’ like experiences and find that motivation becomes pleasurable, and thus much easier. More on this on the web site of the distinguished affective neuroscientist Kent Berridge of the University of Michigan who thought much of this stuff up, all of whose research articles are available for download. A more formal explanation based on Berridge’s research (or a neurologically grounded theory of learning) is provided on pp. 5-6, and 44-51 in a little open-source book on the psychology of rest linked below. (‘flow’ discussed on pp.82-87) https://www.scribd.com/doc/284056765/The-Book-of-Rest-The-Odd-Psychology-of-Doing-Nothing Berridge article on the Neuroscience of Happiness – from Scientific American https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/berridge-lab/wp-content/uploads/sites/743/2019/10/Kringelbach-Berridge-2012-Joyful-mind-Sci-Am.pdf Berridge Lab, University of Michigan https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/berridge-lab/>> <<@clinkzenn says : The experiment with 🐁🐀 pushing each other 🤌>> <<@19993gt says : I need to rewatch this.. sober… and with more focus lol>> <<@19993gt says : Great Effing interview!>> <<@NFT-Tech says : Would love to hear some protocols on managing social media and dopamine response to mindless scrolling & consumption of info.>> <<@Xabierum says : does anyone know a book or two where all is knowledge could be found? Thanks>> <<@iche9373 says : 0:25 how do we spike intentionally dopamine? example of craving is actually what you crave you crave the feeling of craving is beautiful because it would what it means is that you don't allow yourself to go so far down the arc of the dopamine trajectory to get to the other source of motivation so there are two sources of motivation as it relates to dopamine and then we can think about tools that we could export from these that are nested in neurobiology the first is to do what you do which is to be able to sense the craving as its own form of pleasure this has kind of remnants of carol dreck's growth mindset that you eventually develop a pleasure in the Seeking and the Striving has you know uh has flavors of a david goggins type approach where where it seems like he gets pleasure from the friction itself and so there are elements of that you seem to have that as well but if you can start to identify the craving as its own internally released drug this thing dopamine that is a source of motivation then what you realize is that capturing the reward is wonderful but ATTACHING dopamine to the reward is actually a little bit DANGEROUS Celebrating the win celebrating the win more than the pursuit it actually sets you up for failure in the future and so this gets us right into something called "dopamine reward prediction error" and "reward prediction error" is basically if you expect something to be really great and then it's not quite that great your dopamine baseline lowers and now understanding what we know about dopamine that means that not only did you you feel as if you lost because it wasn't as much a celebration as you thought it would be but it also means that you're starting from a lower place meaning you are less motivated now the simpler way to conceptualize this is 5:22 then what you realize is your capacity to tap into dopamine as a motivator not just seeking dopamine rewards that is infinite 1:20:47 Growth Mindset -> 1:23:17 Growth mindset in its purest form is the Attachment of these reward systems to the Effort process, to the Friction process, and not just to obtaining a Reward and just as a kind of final point to that there's a very um well-known body of literature and neuroscience at least among neuroscientists that talks about something called: Reward prediction error and it says if you can dose the dopamine subjectively as you go through the pursuit of something and then have a lot of dopamine when you reach that thing it's very likely that you're going to reinforce that circuit there will be neural plasticity and that circuit will become stronger so the next time you will revisit those sets of behaviors. 1:23:57 the opposite can happen too where you're in real anticipation of something this is gonna be great this is gonna be great this can be great and then you reach that goal and it's kind of underwhelming and that generally triggers this the circuit that i referred to earlier this kind of disappointment or pro-depressive circuit so dopamine is involved in reward but it's also involved in the pursuit of rewards and so as you reach a milestone or as you tell yourself i'm on the right track this friction i'm feeling this late night this early morning this hard conversation with somebody that doesn't feel good i'm going to tell myself this is for a larger purpose that's that Subjective Insertion that abstraction that we're talking about earlier and when you start releasing dopamine to those kinds of things there's essentially no limit on the number of things you can do or the energy to do them so just as a last last point about dopamine when we're in effort we're always secreting adrenaline we're always in pursuit and it's draining it's tiring dopamine has this beautiful capacity to buffer adrenaline 1:25:44 Celebrate Small Wins>> <<@csohrab says : Super! Very impressed about the information and the way it was explained and discussed. Liked this episode very much. Thx Tom and Andrew!>> <<@bekkaadair854 says : i just have to say that it appears that Lisa is riding the coattails of her successful husband. that does nothing to motivate me. what would she have done if she found herself a broke single mom w 3 kids, no partner and a breast cancer. it’s hard to believe she has much to say to someone like that. it is a detriment to woman to showcase someone who is co dependent and pretending to have found success through grit. the whole thing just doesn’t feel congruent w you story>> <<@NoCensorship says : Bunch of hyped up bs.>> <<@Iamcapable4 says : The brain is an interpretation of our senses👀🧠>> <<@Iamcapable4 says : So sitting m😉 or in the event being in a constant relaxed focus🔦 state will take you further ⏭but also attaching the reward 🥇to the process’s⚙️🤔🧠🫀💯 activation clam dopamine extended 😊💪🏼👋>> <<@MegaWorldadventure says : What a horrible example at 14:00, TED talks before 2010 used be great high quality talks, that's why he liked to binge on that, after 2010 they increased the number of speakers with the TEDx, any random person with BS idea could give a speech, they even start banning controversial ted talks, so pretty much the quality went to the toilet. Nothing to do with dopanime levels in your brain, the quality of the TED presentations actually changed.>> <<@Iamcapable4 says : So on the dopamine 🧠rewards 🥇system your saying you can use it as awareness 🔦and have it produce⚙️ controlling 🧠like pretty much telling 🗣your dopamine to release a little bit here little bitter 🪜😊👋👋🔥>> <<@Iamcapable4 says : I can relate to the awareness of this rise and crash of dopamine 🤔🧠🥇🔦👋>> <<@YannMetalhead says : Great information!>> <<@RedfinRealtorCoastalNC says : 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍>> <<@traciemchugh3114 says : Thats why we easily get into bad habits. Its the whole ritual of the chase/preperation/anticipation that sets it in motion. So we must stop that part first not just the reward.>> <<@CarlosGomz70 says : In other words: "enjoy the masoquism and you will be happy!">> <<@rubym3915 says : This entire interview is effin miraculous. I’ll need to play this one over and over. When Tom said he was as in love with this discussion I had to agree. Thank you Tom, IT, Dr Huberman- and awesome to hear about Lisa’s book too!>> <<@CarlosGomz70 says : " Addition is a progressive narrowing of the things that bring you pleasure">> <<@nidalalghad4959 says : 19:58 to 20:30 was fascinating for me and la creme de la creme of this podcast. Thank you!>> <<@andym9423 says : That sore muscle that hurts so good when you rub it lol>> <<@Lenastar23 says : that is exactly what i do to get back to sleep- but usually with an iPad because anything near my ears is bothersome>> <<@primetime_21_ says : Goggins turned this man to a savage 😂😂🔥🍻>> <<@thecollageman3290 says : What about people who Who were over percribed opiods>> <<@ProsperityPathwaysTV says : Very useful information. Thanks for sharing!>> <<@ProsperityPathwaysTV says : Love these guys! This is one of the best podcasts I've listened to in a long time. You could have titled this: "The Science of Humility". Keep up the great work!>> <<@jasongravely7217 says : Huberman always delivers gold & Tom and him have an excellent dynamic!>> <<@error404filmz7 says : It still blows my mind that we are able to view these podcasts at 0 cost to us. Some of the worlds most brilliant thinkers and people in thier respective fields through my fucking screen. This is my favorite podcast. Thank You for Impact Theory Tom. It's changing my life for the better and making me feel more optimistic about the future and most certainly excited for future episodes! THANK YOU!>> <<@Tomsolomon111 says : This stuff isn't new. None of it. Scientology is the new religion, or so they want you to believe. What this guy is describing is exactly what all the ancient manuscripts have been describing for thousands of years before he even set foot on the planet. The only reason we are privy to this information now, is that it has been leaked by secret societies through the internet. They just made up the science to what, standardise it? What , so they can charge for it? So they can keep control? Who knows what the agenda is. Oh that's right, transhumanism. Question the narrative. Question the theories. Question the motive. Cui Bono?>> <<@colleenbeckman905 says : 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🤓🤓🤓>> <<@matthewk1878 says : I never used to wash these because of the click bait titles, I’m grateful the information is genuinely good>> <<@ozonelayercake says : Andrew is a bit like Jordan Peterson, for me. I learn something new and mind-blowing every single time I hear them speak. Grateful for interviews like this one!>>