Right now human have only 2 ways in theirs life: to become Nietzsche's superman and live full free life or to become one of the followers of any cult or sect that we have today's. Mostly: in 99.99% humans will fail and only chosen`s will become who they really could become.
@Melissa-eb2iy Says:
Apparently if we aren't lucky, we are screwed. It's all luck and we have no control.
@nitishgautam5728 Says:
Anyone who has a belief that "i don't have free will " is fooling himself on different levels.
Who is I? What is the meaning of Have ? Is there anything you know or 'have' that is real? Nothing is real ... Everything we know what was /is /will be, is in consciousness and consciousness is illusion...
@someguy4157 Says:
taking responsibility for your life sucks, but it's supposed to. it's not about toxic positivity, it's about being honest with yourself, as well as kind. it's really sad that so many struggle so much to find meaning, but giving up one's agency isn't the right answer.
@lukabenkovic5365 Says:
I have question so correct me if im wrong so basicly we are all just NPC that have no control over any aspect of our life and you have only one path and you cant change it and you are just spectator in your life?
@docerex Says:
The underlying message seems to be: to be humble, be empathetic. I don't think taking a strong position on the nature of causality and then deriving a system of laws, ethics and grand human narratives under the guise of science is sound. The arts, story tellers, humanities, philosophers, law makers, religions, cultures and individuals have wrestled with these issues for many years. I certainly don't think that greed and harmful selfishness will be solved if we convert everyone to this way of thinking. This thesis is certainly a position that may be palatable to some intellectuals, but it likely excludes people from many other perspectives. I also have trouble with over emphasizing the "machine" metaphor for our existence, since human designed machines are unlikely to experience subjectivity. To say we don't have a soul leaps over the glaring issue that consciousness and subjective experience remain intensely mystifying. In fact it is very likely that ethics and morality exists because we are not machines, but are conscious beings that experience the gamut between suffering, sadness, pleasure, peace, etc. Ethics and morality goes beyond just behaviour and outcomes.
I really think scientists need to balance their public discourses with what we are confident in knowing, what we vaguely might know and where we are completely blown away. There is more humility in that approach.
@anuullannur Says:
If you can listen carefully, his way of thinking has many similarities with Bhagavad-Gita. If you take the "atman" (the self or soul), even though there are some opinion differences, that is because both have different schools of thought processes. The God and self, according to Geeta (if you are thinking deeply), are fit for his explanation, or vice versa. Of course, there will be different opinions about time or kala. Just imagine a viewer who can neither be created nor destroyed in this biological soup. Nothing will change for biology or for geeta. We cannot see a God who has supreme power and, at the same time, likes and dislikes. Then he will not be God because he has emotions and thoughts like us. Then what is the point of such a position any more? The only difference between me and God is that he has some superpowers. There is nothing more than that. Then that concept of relationship between God and other beings is the same as that of a master and slave. And that is childish. The whole point of our experience, karma and phala (action and effects), is almost based on that particular person. How you see the world depends on you. So it can be considered a biological genus. Since both come to almost the same conclusion but with different frameworks of thought, the disagreement may be on those topics where both haven't reached concrete conclusions. I think there won't be any differences of opinion. But you may need a good guide who is open-minded, well-studied, and sticks to the way of its exploration or interpretation of Bhagavad-Gita.
@jasonh9518 Says:
Makes total sense.
I don't why, through sheer luck, my enjoyment of nature, my love for my children, my capacity for kindness and my ability to understand somewhat complex ideas is any less meaningful. In fact taking away the need to give myself a pat on the back for this is liberating.
Ina similar vein my flaws and parts of myself I dislike I am privileged to be in a position of having some capacity some of the time to resist those impulses - when I am unable to the guilt that I feel is a mechanism to try and prevent me from reenacting it.
I don't know if it absolves me of the responsibility as such, but I think it should in the same way I am absolved of the credit for the "good" stuff lol
It's a hard concept to apply at the individual level, well for me anyway.
But certainly is so much more humane than our current situation which varies enormously from place to place.
If you take sexuality for instance - imagine being attracted to children, in the same way you are attracted to women or men, you can't help it at all, then imagine being aware enough and having enough capacity to resist those urges - what torture that is.
Thats a tiny example of how those of us who are lucky enough to have navigated through all of those horrible potential proclivities should be grateful beyond grateful.
It certainly is a "scary" concept but if we were able to accept it at a societal level, it would, possibly, propel us into a future with more compassion, more empathy, more respect, more fairness, more love and more gratitude.
Of course I'm limited in the way I see things - in fact I have no ability but to see them in this way - and I'm lucky ( in my own mind)
@sigmagamerchad4685 Says:
vırtually by defınıtıon sapolsky ıs a vıctım of cırcular reasonıng, the way that everyone ıs put ınto dıfferent sıtuatıons arbıtrarıly ıs ın fact the thıng that enables free wıll ın the fırst place, moreover he makes no dıstınctıons as to what ıs the magnıtude/scale of free wıll, lıke based on what ıs there no free wıll, how dıd u quantıze ıt, ıf there ıs no free wıll then basıcally everythıng that comes everythıng that comes out of your mouth ıs predetermıned/scrıpted. the so called change of hıs ıs nothıng more than the reflectıon of predetermınısm. yes many thıngs ın lıfe are already precalculated for u, you parents, your race, your mother tongue, your ethnıcıty your lıneancy towards genetıc dısorders so on and so forth, rest of ıt ıs what u actually make out of ıt, to come to the conclusıon that here ıs no god and no free wıll and everythıng ıs just arbıtrary(contradıcts hımself unbeknownst to hımself) ıs ok for a 14 year old, havıng not moved an ınch farther from such a concept at the age of 65 ıs unfortunately sad. u can eıther base your resasonıng on cırcular logıc and see yourself turn ınto hıtler eventually or u can seperate your emotıons from objectıvıty and be the nazı soldıer who refused to blow up the eıffel tower. mr sapolskı would blow ıt ın a jıffy and blame ıt on geworfenheıt.
@TheChestnutBranch Says:
Wow. This episode sounds chipper 😂 Pass
@tyronejoihnson7046 Says:
These 2 idiots still get Covid shots. And then they get covid and thank God for the shot or it would have been worse. Lol
@Lee-bx5vc Says:
Maybe where more supreme than we can imagine, and where just participating in a game called life. Cartoons characters don't have freewill, just ask Homer Simpson.
@shanesweeney3583 Says:
A lot of talk about "you", "me" & "I" in a conversation premised upon predetermination. The cognitive dissonance is deafening. Imagine a brain hypnotized into identifying with each individual neuron and then coming to the conclusion that individual neurons were incapable of independent thought. Where did the thought come from. Houston we have a framing problem.
@BuckarooBonzai Says:
Anything I have is more appreciated due to this new thinking that we have no free will. It also means we need to be as kind to each other as possible.
@aerobique Says:
"society" = CAPITALISM
@richardasmus9426 Says:
Free will, purpose and God are all human concepts, not Universal concepts. God = Existence. Its a bit like a woman. Stop trying to look up her skirt and try loving her. You'll see a vast difference in your life.
@undercoveragent9889 Says:
Marlon Dingle has lost a little weight.
@samchapple6363 Says:
Too many commercials
@TheMiddleWaypod Says:
Free will cannot exist. Clear explanation at the end of this Sapolsky interview: https://youtu.be/SdgujEWbexQ?si=5hgp9O3dczi-KXzG
@jasonbrault5273 Says:
I love Dr Sapolsky but I had to stop the video, as I felt that the conversation was going to remain fairly basic. If we are organisms looking for survival a procreation, our drive and ambition is a natural evolved coping trait, both for the physical (in earnings) and the social (as perceived value by others).
Every self-help guru plays with and places their value as a "force muliplier", whether they believe it or not. This places them in a social strata of influence and safety amongst the human collective. It's why cults have leaders.
So, after having the thought or experience that the world is a horrible place and that you must manipulate people for safety (this might have been modelled in the home or experienced in the world), this social ambition becomes a survival trait to such a person.
To use the "turtles all the way down" idea, it is no freewill all the way down. The systems and governments and societies we have (and our internal drive) all are combinations of what came before, what out current makeup and mental framework is, did we sleep well and are we hungry, etc., and the decisions that result.
Have we not noticed the anxious will either be highly "motivated" or completely lethargic? These are both coping mechanisms to the stressors they experience. Have we not noticed the alcoholic in the work place will be affable and a hard worker? Is this not to secure the paycheck for them to continue drinking?
Apply no freewill to the person, society and our interactions as "Desiring machines". Also consider that we recognize there is a very high entropy material or sense of the world around us that we shape, and that high entropy of material and possibilities could be described in shape as "a body without organs". And now your are ready to attempt to read philosophers Delueze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus to realize, thinking about humans and socieites as flows and inputs is not in fact ground breaking, but that it also holds a model in understanding both our internal world and external world.
I was as surprised as most of you will be, that the joint work of a philosopher and clinical psychologist (who dealt with schizophrenics), would write a book 50 years ago (1972) that walks this ground. I am also certain that their work was also coloured in trying to understand the German occupation of France (that they lived through as teenagers), the influence of Nietize Freud and Marx in the world then, and the resulting competing for ideas on how to structure society post occupation (capitalism/communisim/or other).
I think the idea I love most so far from commentators of there book (because it is hard reading, and the translation is also not easy) is, you have to think a little "crazy" in associations and forms to find creative solutions, especially since most of your internal mental machinery operates similar to others. A break down of such inputs and modification of those machines produce the change and a different answer. In a biological term, I would call that a social mutation. The fact that you are probably watching this video on a device that you can use to search for information in an external brain (the internet), has already demonstrated it is able to add a mutation to society, without a mutation of the direct organism. (Truely a cyber social society)
Please guys, we can go so much deeper in these interviews. I will take the time to watch those.
@user-do2ct3wu8f Says:
Beautiful mind that is Dr. Sapolsky. The systems we created in modernity seem to reinforce the very illusionary concepts, ie meritocracy. Dissolve the systems and ground society in systems that recognize and work within the bounds of the illusions Dr. Sapolsky alludes to and we build a human animal that functions in a more grateful and just manner with his fellow neighbors. Resource and power grab systems we operate in are reinforcing the illusion of free will.
@user-gv2wt7ts8c Says:
Although a person may have a talent and be lucky for such, he may have a depression tendency or lack a loving family. And the untalented person may have a happy disposition and a loving family. Why make the talented feel guilty about such talent, but not the untalented feel guilty about having a happy disposition?
@1x93cm Says:
in antiquity- people used to believe in fate. It's the same thing as no free will.
@nathanmadonna9472 Says:
The Norway example is great but no freewill and no god doesn't mean there's no purpose. Each individual defines purpose for themselves. This was a DOPE interview. 🌎
@Superdisco199 Says:
Sapolsky, Maté, Pinker etc should be running a global government. What an intelligent world it would be.
@dwainbryan6037 Says:
You're brain is messing with you! Who the fuck is "you" then?
@oliverjamito9902 Says:
How else can an infant WOMEN know? Yes, even before born knows?
@oliverjamito9902 Says:
What is self-esteem? Remember is vital! For an infant daughter to be raised by strongest Heirs Hosts! Why?
@oliverjamito9902 Says:
How else can the little Child "i" know? Without HIS "AM"? Was denied! Pop with sincere tears! My "AM"! KNEW AND KNOWS? A LITTLE CHILD BORN "i". Will long for HIS "AM"! Pop my AM prepared the Way. Even filled accusers of blood sacrifice. Holy BLOOD STAINS UPON their hands. What is that mean? Yes, time given approval to come forth! How and Why? Time even know Who can't be accused? Reason Time exist in front!
@oliverjamito9902 Says:
Pop if ye have to create the WORLD? Nor unto all the Students? Remember what is conversations without another! Remember it's ok to correct one another nor to bring to remembrance unto one another together in front! Now together if ye have to create the world in front? Without being offended unto one another! Come How will ye create the world in front? Pop say i can love thee perfect! Pop do ye think i can also be denied? For such given Time the approval! The perfect love have been denied 1ST! Pop came with an aim above all aims!
@economichitman Says:
Lol there is no god. What a stupid statement
@PabloLavayen Says:
"Being able to work so hard is another biological attribute".
@saltyohio1569 Says:
This just like simulation theory. It’s not reality it’s called simulation. Still same thing, different name. No it’s not free will but we been calling it free will but we don’t want call it free will
@evo1ov3 Says:
Speaking of Free Will vs Determinism. From listening to these two interact. Why cannot I get the idea of "cuck chair" out my head....
BTW beard dude got smoked on Brian Keating's channel.
@SaraSara-ti6ex Says:
And here goes talking about oct7 . what Israelis stealing Palestinians land. What about West Bank there is no Hamas there but still Israelis settlers brutality is well documented
@SaraSara-ti6ex Says:
I’m enjoying this conversation till host mentioned oct7 as if it happened in a vacuum! What about the thousands and thousands of children killed after oct7, is that self defense?
@SaraSara-ti6ex Says:
What about the 190 after oct7?
@RtaniDean Says:
“Wiggle room” as clearly stated by Mr Saposky @ around 2:00 in. Hmmm…
Is this not “one’s own will?”
Drop the “free” aspect, it’s silly.
@TillBehler Says:
Someone is playing saxophone at home and the neighbor is 'suffering' because they can't work their corporate job from home because of it, who is extending human suffering and who is bringing love and beauty into the world? Who is acting entitled?
Asking for a friend.
@hide_and_go_sikh Says:
You're free to choose your suffering
@hide_and_go_sikh Says:
I still want a lamborghini
@hide_and_go_sikh Says:
I've created God and purpose
@user-lr2ib1cv4d Says:
I will say this. If we have no free will, it is then more amazing that throughout history there have been countless attempts to reduce choice as if it were self-selected.
@andrews3642 Says:
Well said sir! I salute you. 🤘
@ET_LWO Says:
The word “neuroplasticity” changed me
@brendapaint Says:
I dont get his assessment on dopamine- seems the same as reward- with anticipation of reward. I need to listen again , I guess.
@MikeEnergy_ Says:
Where did the matter that comprised the big bang come from?
@jesseleighgordon Says:
I wish Tom just let the guest speak ffs
@runningbeard7380 Says:
Within 30 seconds we're treated to 7-8 generic stock images, and then this guys goofy black hat and shirt ensemble...
@garyquade1975 Says:
This guy is so full of shit. 5 minutes in he's talking about deciding this and that and motivation.
But who's deciding and getting motivated if we have no free will?
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