Wow. Greek philosophy brought to life. Going deeper and deeper to the origin of ideas. Self imposed slavery to sins. I have learned so much. It is so lively as well. I can be adicted. I want more. Beautiful. Jordan and Russel certainly use vocabulary most of us wouldn't normally use but that's the only way to be precise. Hat off.
@abrahammarzo2546 Says:
JP, Thank you for your open mindedness, we love you. You are a great father to us all, whether we have one or don't. Bless your daughter, bless your wife, but man, thank you and bless you. I personally disagree with you, yet that's what I love about you, I can drink a beer and dislike you, but love you. I don't want my kids to hate me, but id be sure proud if they liked me how I disagree with you sir, respect.
@abrahammarzo2546 Says:
I am satan(sarcasm) without a bias, if you were an 👽, and read through people comments, you as an advanced people would quickly acknowledge the stupid ones. 🙄
Notice, like my friend told me to write down, you never told them who you were, like he said, let the idiot's be idiots. When did any of their opinions mattered other than that of violence according to history? While on class and someone would violently answer he would state, "So why would you think we would be talking about you?" Oh, a lack of intelligence requires force to force themselves into existence because they know without them, they wouldn't be chosen" just like Religion did. I thank Christopher Hitchens and Neil deGrasse Tyson, and BTW im a dispicable honorably discharged with a Top Secret clearance in the military 🪖. Be and let be my friend. Theses are two opposing parties of which none i agree with, but would still have a beer or two with. Are you too cool for that? An open mind means to be friend with the unknown, everything else is both comfort of a stagnant nature.
My friend, this was a test, if you actually got angry, I wouldn't advise you to tell your son to join, the harassment(an honest test, imagine a situation where we're going to die, you need to be strong for my daughter, even if you never met her and the same for your son, if you cant handle a joke, then how much of a joke I am for being friends with a loser who loses his shit when my last words before I die I "tell him to tell her I love her, all the while hes complaining im calling him a bitch?
@JHun-hi9bk Says:
Sister Kerry Ann prophecied that Russell would come to Yeshayah, the Christ.
@tl57345 Says:
Jordan, I’m convinced of three things when I listen to you.
1. Your intelligence is clouding the perspicuity of the gospel.
“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.” Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.”
1 Corinthians 1:18-25 NIV
2. You have yet to accept the full payment of Jesus Christ for your past, present and future sins. When Jesus hung on the cross and said “it is finished”, your research will show you the Greek term translated means paid in full. What do you need to add to this full payment? Nothing! Our suffering on this earth as Christian’s is not a righteous justification but merely a consequence of following Christ.
3. You won’t understand this until you are born again-just as Nicodemus couldn’t.
“Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.””
John 3:3 NIV
PS: what is faith?
“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
Hebrews 11:1 KJV
@TheSoapMak3rs Says:
What is the Matrix?
@Richard_Paradise Says:
Russell seems to be renewed. Good things.
@shishi2776 Says:
Can they use simpler terms so I can grasp the concept
@Richard_Paradise Says:
👍
@bryanhall7086 Says:
This guy doesn’t realize the collective subconscious is what helps associate the broom stick to the witch and frog
@trashboity8773 Says:
I swear you bro you sound like you're AI
@corgythompy Says:
Lives-On-The-Subway Tier Schizo babble
@marcusm663 Says:
Fuck me. Is this what we've come to. Two men, totally and utterly enslaved with their own minds spouting some more elaborate and contrived rubbish. god save us all. Both had the possibility of being good men, if they weren't so enamoured with their thoughts.
@elizabethwilk9615 Says:
Russel is stuttering and seems nervous not a peace lately. I hope he’s ok and he doesn’t have to go to court for the faux accusations.
@ViolinViolaMasterclass Says:
Livy (The Roman Historian living at the time of Augustus…after the turmoil of the civil wars and Julius Caesar) says in the preface to his first 5 books on Roman history, “The study of history is the best medicine for a sick mind; for in history you have a record of the infinite variety of human experience plainly set out for all to see; and in that record you can find for yourself and your country both examples and warnings; fine things to take as models, base things, rotten through and through to avoid.” Livy has been such a consolation for me to read over the last few months. If your mind is disturbed…read grandfather Livy’s books. They’ve survived over 2000 years for a reason…
@hereonlynow Says:
"Now, let me go on for ages, if you don't mind." 😂 RB
@jenniferrobinson4464 Says:
Oh dear, normally a fan of JP but not this time.
Russell Brand is a charlatan.
I find it sad that so many people are falling for his wares.
Not i hastened to add the Christian faith which i consider a force for good.
@mahmudrafey793 Says:
deep down inside Dr Jordan Peterson is a muslim. Peterson is effectively a Muslim because the God that he describes the highest attainable goal or maybe the highest even unattainable goal to keep the pursuit towards the greater good going, acknowledging the existence of an absolute perfection against which the imperfections of you and me contrast and thus exist, and that’s literally the God of Mohammed so and once again when you ask Dr Jordan Peterson if he believes in God he’s going to be hesitant in answering that with a yes because he knows that if you believe in God then you must submit to perfection putting your level best effort every single moment in time to be truthful and do the best possible thing that you can do and even identifying the best possible thing that you can do is so difficult and then to go ahead and put in your best to execute that that’s even more that’s almost unimaginable and Dr Jordan Peterson mistakenly attributes this to Christ well that is not mistakenly attributed to Christ at all because Christ was a man who submitted to that successfully so was Mohammed
sorry, I was using voice to text. That’s why there’s no punctuations or anything. I don’t know how to use this thing very well and I wasn’t being my level best in submitting to God and putting my genuine best effort to type it out because I was eating so you could say that , the imperative to submit and acknowledge that but like like Jordan Peterson, I can’t say I believe but I’m trying
@sandhya797 Says:
I wish Instead of psychology, Jordan peterson read the Bible and extrapolated it.
Time is short. I hope, Jordan, you would be able to decipher the Lord through the Holy Spirit. May God bless each of us.
The Lord is a mysterious person but he makes known his secrets to those who fear Him.
@heydyrosas2381 Says:
So is Professor Peterson a Christian asking for a friend
@bobbik966 Says:
BINT actually IS a word, in the horse world! It is Arabic for "Daughter of".... so a mare named STAR has a filly, DAUGHTER, so you can name her BINT STAR.
Sorry ,I couldn't resist! 😂😊❤
@ValidatingUsername Says:
So interesting the kinds of promoted posts I’ve seen asking about regret of “idolizing” the alleged intellectual dark web
@ezrato Says:
03:29 I looked it up, and apparently "bint" is an actual word lol
It's a derogatory term for "girl" or "woman".
@brendayork3153 Says:
JP is a douchebag
@tommroy Says:
2 talking heads that know nothing of spirituality. If it dresses like a clown and speaks like a clown, it's likely a clown.
@amberrosejolly7593 Says:
Could you say this is a conversation about faith vs accepting or contending with the idea that the human race is perfectly flawed?
Anyway it inspired me to write this;
I think god means good
Be good to your fellow human beings
And good will be done by you
meaning all will be well if, your will is good
There for God can not punish
only you can punish your self
By not doing good
God is willing meaning GOOD is willing
Good will be done to you
If you have good will
GOD is GOOD
God always meant do good
Gods work
@halo2bullseye922 Says:
WOW Russell. You are so articulate!
@jonwilliams8804 Says:
You need some more energy Jordan. You seem very tired friend.
@ryanjohnson3881 Says:
Yo Russell made me cry there near the end. Living in uncertainty with Grace was beautiful.
@ryanjohnson3881 Says:
Russel is a few short sharp breaths from sounding like the blackest preacher in the south when he really gets going here. I love it. Feel the spirit brother man.
@garymulsp Says:
What a load of nonsense
@rolanddelapp9628 Says:
You're Looking great JP!
Health looks great on you.
I applaud your recovery
@lew.bow.studios Says:
I feel like the whole bit at the start discussing the LLMs could have just been JBP mentioning Set Theory, its the same thing and its much older.
@sirbenjamin8619 Says:
It is an inevitable temptation for any man to turn to pride for strength, the greater the man, the greater the temptation to crush our weakness with the weight of our pride. For men especially, our pride can be and often is viewed as strength. And what source of pride and visible strength can be greater for any man then his son. 24:42 The sacrifice is always the same. Turn only to God for strength. Offer your Pride and weakness on the alter of necessity and God will bring you true strength and Glory.
@knowledgewellbeingaction Says:
Holy smokes, this is an amazing discussion. So heavy I can't keep up with many parts of it.
@Phattydumpz Says:
An idea. Humans, as a species aren't in an any state of maturation to begin with. Time is a great indicator of what works and what doesn't. Asking questions in relation to what reality and/or morality is might expose the ego that we're blessed with. We haven't ran enough conscious tests to say what is black or what is white. Asking questions I'm all for but expecting answers? Not any time soon.
@chrisklaeffling1 Says:
The staggering amount of precise and brilliantly formend lines that you both dropped is astounding. You guys are both amazing. I hope that you never ever stop talking to each other. Congratulations on your baptism, Russell Brand!
@BloodlinesNewTimes Says:
Please stop using GPTs and go over to Mistral or PHI3 and you'll stop having the problems of idealism direction of the answerd
@X_x_kingfisher_x_X Says:
Does current GAJA qualify as hell? Or do you want more?
@anserrs Says:
54:35 "...I have no enemies..."
@12suns Says:
Fine, consider it's over. Let's see what being clean does
@nicklespale22 Says:
Its surprising to me but should not surprise me how only those who, not only appreciate the nack of his swift comprehension, but actually UNDERSTAND the level of intelligent the man has on complex topics are the only ones who listen to him.
@cybco Says:
Is that a Matador "Dr. Peterson" suit. Very sharp fitted and wears it well.
@jaddaj5881 Says:
What a wanky, post modern, academic discussion about nothing. This is worse than woke. Both of these people need help, they’re losing their ability to connect meaningfully with each other and normal human society. I’m actually worried for both of them.
@manuelrodero8764 Says:
Brilliant.
@BK-hq7tn Says:
That was awesome
@OompaLoompaFu Says:
Hear me out: Jesus is what older men turn to when they've given up. It isn't a revelation, it's something to default to.
I've spent time in church, I've read much of the Bible, I've watched every episode of The Chosen. I know the Christ story well, and it's decent one. Somewhat interesting, very obtuse and incoherent. If you took the divinity out of Christ's story and just analyzed it as the life of a man who gave some good sermons and was ultimately betrayed by a corrupt state who executed him, Braveheart's William Wallace makes for a more interesting character. As does Batman or Iron Man. Or even Forest Gump.
There's zero evidence for a historical Jesus. He's not written about until 70 years after his death. When he is written about, it's 2nd hand accounts of his life told by the authors of the synoptic gospels, none of who ever met Christ.
It's just my opinion, but I think it's boring and predictable for older men raised in a Judeo-Christian culture to eventually be worn down by their culture of origin and submit to its myths. It's disappointing to see the intellects in Peterson and Russell Brand just tap out. They could actually be devoting their efforts into actually changing society in meaningful, structural ways like creating real, thriving communities who interact and combine talent and resource to make micro-societies that are free from the flaws of the dominant society. Instead, retreating into faith in a mid-tier story is just... disappointing.
I believe in God and purpose beyond what humans ascribe to life. I'm still open to any influence God might have had on mankind throughout history. I just don't see evidence for the Christ story being a true telling of the time the creator of the Universe decided to manifest himself into the body of a man, wipe his own memory of being God, and let himself be betrayed, tortured and killed by men with the full knowledge of what was to come. That story doesn't have a point to it. I don't see why God would reveal himself to humanity in this way, once, thousands of years ago.
And before you say "he died for our sins", that doesn't even make sense. He died *because* of our sins. And there's no evidence that belief in Jesus warps you to heaven when you die, nor does it answer prayers while you're alive. Jesus' actions didn't wipe out sin or bring about the kingdom of God. He didn't do anything other than deliver the Sermon on the Mount, which again, wasn't directly recorded by the synoptic gospel authors (so the version we're read really could be anything).
At best, if Christ really did live and was divine, the Roman Catholic Church and Greek Orthodoxy censored the texts that comprise the Bible you've read. The Nag Hammadi library escaped the editing process of the Catholics and their contents alter the story of Christ. For example, in The Dialogue of the Savior, Jesus tells his brother James "When the next one [a demon encountered after death] says to you, ‘Why were you sent here?’ answer, ‘I came from eternity to learn to distinguish between the things that exist in spirit and those that exist in matter. But I have learned that matter actually exists in spirit, because it comes from the Mother, and the Mother abides in the Father. I call on the imperishable knowledge that is the Mother [here Jesus refers to the Jewish goddess Sophia] who abides eternally in the Father."
The Nag Hammadi Jesus refers to the Goddess Sophia and the Supreme Being who is beyond the God who imprisoned Adam and Eve in Eden. The texts say that the Supreme Being sent Jesus in the form of a serpent to instruct Eve to eat from the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Eternal life. The God of the old testament was angry and jealous and Jesus was sent by the All Father to rescue man *from* the lesser God.
We know that not all serpents are bad because Moses used a brass serpent to heal his people when they were sick in the desert, and Jesus was referred to as "wise as a serpent" in the New Testament.
Even if you don't believe what I'm saying, there's no chance your knowledge or Peterson's or Brand's knowledge of the Bible is complete, because corrupt states like the Roman state who *executed* Christ invented this character called Pope, which the New Testament says *nothing* about, and gave him the power to edit what you've read.
So. To ignore all of this and believe in Christ because you've become an old man who has given up on changing society for the better and is resigned to just riding this thing out... it's weak.
@JohnDoe-nq4du Says:
"Bint" was a poor choice for an example of a non-word that fits the statistical pattern of a real English word, because "bint" *is* a real English word: it's a British slur referring disparagingly to a woman or girl.
@timmywright7099 Says:
Doug Wilson awaits.
@timmywright7099 Says:
Do you believe in God? The personal, knowable, Divine Triune God of the scripture. Yahweh, Jesus, The Holy Spirit. Not a theory, not a structure, not a system. A being, the creator, the saviour. Manifest in human form in the person of Jesus Christ. Do you believe in this being?
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