I read Mrs Shrier's book before watching this video. So glad I did. My biggest problem is that I fell into the Therapy trap with my kids. One is thriving, but the other is still having a hard time adjusting. I had inklings that all the therapy was counterproductive, but I thought that couldn't be. The argument both make here is so logical and sensible that I feel quite a bit of guilt for having fallen into the trap. But that is MY problem, not my sons. Both boys have been better since we let them just "tough it out".
@MelissaMorris-ut2be Says:
Finally someone that gets it thank you
@Megbower6907 Says:
It’s wild how as a woman I can’t get a doctor to believe me when I physically feel bad (migraine ect) but there are doctors who will believe me if I say I’m a boy. It’s just crazy! All of it
@kirkjabusch1514 Says:
Sports are the best, and both learning to lose and learning how you are going to react to losing are the most important lessons. I was a terrible loser as a kid. I got better at it with some maturity, and I learned to use that frustration and competitive instinct more positively as motivation.
@mcsynk Says:
Hey Dr Peterson, around the 57 minute mark you said that the proportion of only children has increased. I watched the interview you did with the gentlemen who made that film about unplanned childlessness, and he stated the opposite: that the number of children per mother has stayed the same, only that childlessness had increased. The histogram showing the frequency of every given number of children has basically stayed the same. Those that actually have children, continue to have as many as before.
@johnoconnor8721 Says:
I was a male trapped in a female body once... then my mother gave birth.
@user-nc2wh1un8h Says:
wow! have been waiting for this for almost 2 decades, having seen the terrible insanity hurting and destroying so many youth...and their parents! ... but its not getting better, its getting worse. western culture seems to be self destructing.
@morgancardinale6098 Says:
I dated a woman whose therapist said to her, "I don't think you have the capability to be selfish. "...
That left me speechless.
@Dr.I_Blowhydro_ Says:
I really wish you used Minnect Jordan 🫶
@innerauthority Says:
Jordan's comments about how we have told women career is more important than kids, is so poignant. I love this conversation. It is thought provoking and helpful! Thank you.
@MTSammyGirl Says:
It's standard practice, if you can afford it!
@MTSammyGirl Says:
Min:14. If Therapy creates learned helplessness, then it is an unhealthy thearapeutic relationship.
@BlueRoyal667 Says:
"it's run by women with a misplaced maternal instinct" I have never heard words that made more sense... No blame placed, just a gentle narrative that leads to a sensible conclusion. I love these sit downs!
@matthewdj993 Says:
Some of the best content in years right here.
@eleanor4759 Says:
Stellar as always. So insightful. ❤
@jeffsmith5249 Says:
I became a father at 40 but I'm not worried about my daughter's mental safety I'm worried about her getting abducted by sex traffickers. I grew up in the age of Jacob wetterling and things have only gotten worse
@AdamLeis Says:
"Would you rather have an alive trans child or a dead child?" Faaaaalse dichoooootooomyyyyy. The failure of the general populace to think critically is… well, critically bad. It's how we got this far in the first place. Failure to think. Failure to do the work. All the info and training for free in the world at our fingertips and we use it for cat videos and tiktok for self-validation instead. 🤦♂ Is there a natural selection thing working itself out here?
@apmiller77 Says:
On a crusade against 2nd cameras. They don’t add anything to interviews and kinda dumb 😊
@michelletewhata4287 Says:
😍😍😍😍
@user-xy5lc6ks4l Says:
59:10ish
- the Amagasaki derailment (JR福知山線脱線事故, JR Fukuchiyama-sen dassen jiko, lit. "JR Fukuchiyama Line derailment")
( If this can happen with a bullet train what might happen with AI ? that is my question)
- My high schoolfriend was from Japan.She failed her exams and jumped Off of a building to Commit suicide.
- I'm not saying I disagree with everything.They're saying ...I just think there should be cautionary notes.
-There is. A children's tale in Japan About a tiny turtle getting Bullied who becomes a big turtle after he's purchased by someone who stops the bullying.
Urashimataro
It's a statue on a beach in hawaii , Japanese people know this fairy tale about bullying
*If there was no cancel culture I would write about that stuff.
@user-xd7vo6be4p Says:
In my 65 years living in Australia I’ve never known a single person who has gone to regular “therapy”. I doubt that my country on the whole is less mentally stable than America. We might even be better off with a little MORE madness.
@brittakneek Says:
I wish they would bring Gabor Maté in on this conversation. It would make for interesting discussions.
@user-bq4rz8lk1g Says:
Excellent conversation. Thank you so much.
@victorswenson5026 Says:
Glad you had a guest speaker on your program Jordan so you could talk over her for an hour.....and a half
@user-kh8bl9qc7l Says:
People look at me funny when I encourage my 11 year old to take walks in our suburban neighborhood alone. He has his phone and I can track him. I think it's a heck of a lot safer than the absurdity of social media.
@user-lw6bh4ww4v Says:
I do understand about over doing it
@user-lw6bh4ww4v Says:
There are also few other reasons why we don’t let our kids go to school bus alone, specially under 12. And is predators. At one time I would stay some where behind but still supervise until she got on the bus. When I could not be home when she got off the bus I was very explicit to what could happen and it almost did. 3 in the afternoon she decided she wanted to go get some snacks at the store which I have told her not to do and it was just 1.5 blocks away, a man driving a car slowed down and started talking to her and offering to give her a ride and my voice was in her head that she started running for her life hid behind a tree jumped the fence and went back home to wait for me or her brother. Things have happened to girls and I told her. I also did same with my son and he realized things happened as I told him.
@judithflom6366 Says:
You guys made many great points. One addition aspect is that media has made the outlier horror stories and cases common knowledge and people are afraid of those things happening to their children. Thousands of kids uneventfully made their way to meet the school bus in the morning but one is kidnapped and raped or murdered. Parents do a calculation, is it worth the risk of this happening to my child for them to have more independence? Is it worth letting them drive when they are at higher risk of being irresponsible and crashing a car? My young kids want to be allowed to play out front and have sleepovers but there have been terrible cases that we are all aware of. Media distorts true risk. But ALSO we have discovered that abuse, predators, etc are much more common than we realized in the past. Are we more realistic now? Americans are usually characterized as being naive and optimistic compared to other places. Is that over?
@Samantha-bq8bo Says:
“Ioda of a Clue”.. I’ve only heard the word Ioda in Canada . I agree with everything he says’s - it’s all common sense. 🙌
@neuneu5315 Says:
The worst things is that is ok for kids to physically change, but is not ok to drink 🍺 or smoke, or do any grownups activities… América is in a worry path…
@chickenmonger123 Says:
Oh. When I broke. That was something like a moral injury. Interesting.
@polarisjustdothework2258 Says:
Possibly a bad example 46:49 but competition equals resilience is captured in Marshall Mathers aka Eminem expressing that hip-hop saved him, beginning with building his confidence aka resilience and his skills in the beginning by COMPETING in rap battles 💪💪✊️👊
@king6238 Says:
1:26:10
@TanyaFawcett-xs2ue Says:
This is an extremely interesting and important topic. Public education is a complete mess and some of the points you make likely explain this. A social worker once told me that IEPs build resilience. It is very true that some students require IEPs but now we are sometimes looking at classrooms where 50 percent or more of the students have them. Everything from the child in grade 6 who requires assistive technology to access text ( needs an IEP) to the child who can’t write tests due to anxiety ( wondering how we are helping this child develop). The issues are enormous and the system will break.
I appreciate all of Jordan’s interviews and the knowledge that he shares but in this one I would have liked to hear a bit more from Abigail.
@kristinakoj2448 Says:
Its cool how he invites Abigail to the interview, just so he can not let her speak or have any screen time. And everytime she does speel he goes into a personal rant 😂
@benshithero3037 Says:
Jordan Peterson is so murderously corrupt and mercilessly evil.
@cynthiajones4332 Says:
Did you know... The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life throught Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23 You and I broke the law and Jesus paid the fine. God demonstrates his own love for us in this, while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8 Believe and repent today! The consequences are eternal.
@elenaurueta548 Says:
This is super helpful thanks
@Shirocco7 Says:
The conflict of interest is the intractable problem with therapy.
It still has value, and if you can't see any solution at all, it may help. But it is vital to remember they stop earning when you leave their services.
@artplore Says:
Conversations like these give me hope in humanity.
@RobertReg1 Says:
Great work. Thank you.
@Golden_red6 Says:
Agree w everything except moms going back to work w children being so young. I have 4 children and my lived experience tells me something different. Moms can go back to work later if they choose, but that doesn’t mean that kids will be ruined because they see how much a mom is needed to nurture (not spoil) her children.
@lauraengel8501 Says:
And it's really sad, cuz I found out like ten years later in my marriage, after the birth of our daughter, that my now ex husbands mother was an over bearing mother to my husband. Taught him that he's better then everyone, smarter and to lie and blame others. When we had our daughter, she even went to the hospital, not to see her grandchild, but to give her son his vitamins, which I found out she's been doing every day of his life. Not one or two vitamins, but like a full glass of pills and a thick drink. She told him shortly after the birth of our daughter, that he's spent enough time with his daughter and I and it's time he came back home. And trust me when I say that's just one small thing. And I fear he's raising our daughter the exact same way. Making her dependent on him and letting her believe she's right about everything. I lived through hell in my marriage when his mother wanted him back, and my daughter is gonna grow up just like her father if somebody besides me don't start opening up their eyes and see that these people are not great people. They are damaged beyond repair and they multiply. Not correcting the wrongs in life but continuing the wrongs. Who can a person like me go to to help me fight this cuz I clearly can't do this on my own, because so many industries above me are profiting off of keeping her damaged and away from a good parent. And the only reason he even wants to fight for her, cuz he never did take a fathering position in her life, except to cut me to her, is due to the fact that whoever has her has the best chance to get the house in the divorce. And I know this as a fact cuz I lived and loved him for thirty years. Last 20 years trying to figure out what the heck was happening with my life, cuz it seemed like I was losing loved ones from my life and bad things started happening more and more to almost everyday. Soon everyday. His mother wasn't a parent to him, she was a wife. Everything about her, he grew up being devoted to. I did not know this. I'm gonna say I was so much in love and he made me believe he was the most perfect man in the world, and would love me forever. I dropped all my barriers and trusted him like no other! It took me close to 20 years to fully walk away from him. To know beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he really is the monster that I was seeing destroying my life. And no to see his greed and love at destroying the one thing I loved the most in my life, was my children! He's like a poison that gets into everyone's mind. He's so sweet, which is why it took me 20 years, that you can't help but believe his poor poor husband getting cut for just loving and supporting his wife, speech. How I'm jealous and need to check on him cuz he wants me to stay and I can't unless I can trust him. He don't tell his friends and our family that. In other words, he was throwing me under the bus when he first knew that I knew he was the bad seed. But there has got to be a wake up call towards all these people who are destroying their children. I made a huge mistake. And I can get out and change that. My daughter can't cuz she will never know any better way. And puberty, which I was helping her through, was a great way for my ex to step up and use that to take me down and get his house back. Found out his family are a string of black witches, and he's been teaching her for years now, since she could think, that I've been learning. And when I contacted police over a court order he broke, the officer informed me that satism is a religion. Witchcraft is a religion! But on the same note he wouldn't give me his name. So now we can't even trust our officers to make the wrong right. Thank God for people like you and Abigail for speaking out and opening up some people's eyes. Bless you both and thank you for hearing me out shortly. Laura
@lauraengel8501 Says:
I think , by personal experience, divorce is the culprit. When you've got one parent not grown up enough to help raise a strong child, you have no option but to either give in and allow child to hold dominance over the parents...or you could buck the other parent in which you'll end up losing the love of your child cuz the other parent will put you in the bad parent spectrum. Or accuse you of causing trauma in your child's life I lost my daughter to her father cuz I don't pamper her puberty. I talk with her, explain what she's going through and that it's normal, where he just throws her into therapy and puts her on drugs. I'm so angry and no matter what I say, I'm in the wrong according to people in higher positions like teachers and government officials. So I'm silenced as my daughter is destroyed because she don't know better. What kid wouldn't want their parent catering to them and therapists and teachers. Problem is it's not good for them. I had to keep telling her I'm the parent and your the child. I don't have to listen to what your saying I should do. That's my take on it and it leaves me to just sit back and watch my daughter destroy herself from the bad people engulfed in her life.
@KariMotley Says:
My son’s first grade teacher suggested I take my son to see a therapist to get assessed for ADD. Thankfully after seeing the school therapist with him, she said she doesn’t think that’s the case, he was a twin and premature and a younger 1st grade boy since they were born in June. Thankfully she took into account all factors, that’s he’s also a boy that is just more figity and doesn’t like sitting still, what 5 year old boys does for hours at a school desk?! What I’d learned over time was that his teacher was the one with the problem, far more serious ones than any of the kids in her class. I caught her, as well as other teachers and staff yelling at her students on multiple occasions, even telling them basically how stupid they are, etc… I think as parents it’s crucial that we fully assess the situation and circumstances of our kids in school, in the classroom and with their teachers, staff, etc.. before believing anything a teacher or school psychologist has to say, especially if they’re pushing you to rush your kid into see a psychologist when there’s nothing alarming going on at home.
@jonathanbonde8808 Says:
Perspicacious: quick in noticing, understanding or judging things accurately.
I love that most podcasts Dr. Peterson throws a word at me that I have to look up 😀
@DaleRFetz Says:
Love that! Let them grow up!!! Yes!
@freemindas Says:
I love it how mesmerized her face looks when Jordan speaks :)
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