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@EdgarAntonioCastroSoto-d3c Says:
ELEGANTE DISEÑO PARA SALVCAR LA IGLESIA ELEGANTE CORTE OCHAVADO SALUDOS DE LOS MOCHIS SINAÑLOA Arq.edgar castro soto tetaroba construcciones
@roderickp1389 Says:
absolutely wild this was kept secret from the public. People should not have been let into that building until the bandaids were complete and verified. "Mass Panic" when they really meant stock price.
@SkillfulScott Says:
Probably should’ve started with the wind tunnel
@appleimacdude Says:
Why do the mass dampers require electricity?
@bernardorodriguez4285 Says:
This really downplays the student.
@Mr.T314 Says:
We need more people like this today. People who speak the truth and value integrity.
@MysteryMovesWashOut Says:
Sadly, the same level of ethics don't prevent our politicians who make life and death decisions everyday to reconsider, openly debate or admit failures that cost lives. Our politician's openly lie to their constituency knowing that their zombies will believe whatever they're told, and their constituency obviously don't understand how this double edge sword works against their interest. This engineer kept checking the old math as well as refactored it from all conceivable areas of concern for days and weeks after a college student questioned/second guessed the completeness and thoroughness of his overall analysis. This same level of rigor needs to applied in our system of governance. Begin by not accepting lies, misinformation, redirection, etc..
@NF_Mendoza Says:
Praising the architects when it's the structural engineer who did the job. 🥵
@wc6046 Says:
0:28 I thought hurricane season was over
@davidwhelchel8774 Says:
This is old news and has been featured in many youtube videos -- some of them more accurate than this one - Diane Hartley, was the 1978 undergraduate engineering student who discovered it and is the real hero
@Natrthebatr6694 Says:
0:14 68 mph for my fellow americans
@giovannirodriguez8659 Says:
La placa de amortiguamiento instalada en teoría soporta tensiones de terremotos de 6.7 pero que pasaría si un terremoto de 5 grados con una profundidad de menos 10 km al mismo tiempo ocurre cuando llega un huracán de máxima categoría a New York , se que es de acuerdo a las probabilidades y registros históricos es casi imposible , como el que sucedió en 1884 de 5.2 ,entiendo que la probabilidad es de 5 a un 25 % de que ello suceda en 100 años y ya se supero esa barrera hace 42 años y tomando en cuenta el cambio climático tan cambiante que hay en la actualidad !!!
@giovannirodriguez8659 Says:
Yo diría como la terquedad de un pastor hubiese terminado en una tragedia, los constructores debieron haber sido mas responsables e insistido en el peligro inminente , aunque la idea era ingeniosa solo desviar la carga hacia la estructura mas fuerte , era claro que el diseño no ayudaba en nada a la fisica !
@PedroSantos-gz9cn Says:
LeMessurier needs to learn how to mesure
@Ghostery007 Says:
A gorgeous Gothic church was destroyed??? For what?
NYC destroyed so many gorgeous structures sadly for heinous 1970'-1980s buildings?
Who would have guessed that was a horrible building design.
@jklltvm_33 Says:
poeple habe no taste anymore
@SnuSnuC137 Says:
Wäre der Sturm nicht zu deinen Lebzeiten hätte er nichts gesagt - super ☠️
@Regen-f1x Says:
30:22 That sunlight was a paid actor
@karlMcAidey Says:
Replacing a Gothic style church with a modern style one was a stupid idea already!!
@ghostengineer Says:
What an awesome video. I’ve heard of the scare of a potential collapse of this building when first built but had no idea until this video as to what the issues were. 😊
@chetaohay83 Says:
Việc xây dựng nên tính toán sao cho đơn giản mà an toàn,không nên tự làm khó mình và có thể gây ra thảm hoạ,ní chỉ là 1 toà nhà không có gì đặc biệt cả,nhà thờ có nhất thiết phải xây ngay 1 góc không,thật nực cười.
@crni2780 Says:
5:18 Und das war in den USA damals nicht bekannt? Langsam glaube ich die sind da wirklich hinterwäldler🤦♂
@mrquique2 Says:
All these remedies are indeed commendable, but their silence held up revising and updating building code for more than twenty years.
@zickwang1723 Says:
NYC need another solution to save building TODAY.
@thinhkapu6033 Says:
Làm nhà ngủ thế
@thinhkapu6033 Says:
Rồi nó cũng sập
@dharsanchandrakumar Says:
Anyone here bc of the Pfizer building in NY?
@CarlosColon-q1k2h Says:
You lost me at KPH. PASS!
@norbertoxxx9293 Says:
La nueva iglesia es una pedorradada artistica
@ParagonHex Says:
I can't get over the fact that the guy's name is LeMeasure
@babybokchoiii Says:
who is here after the old Pfizer World Headquarters building in Midtown on East 42nd Street was evacuated。。。。？
@geertrebreps191 Says:
Kann es sein, dass diese Erzählung zwar auf Tatsachen beruht, aber "etwas" anders ablief? Meines Wissens rechnete eine Studentin die Statik anlässlich einer Semesterarbeit nach und stiess darauf, dass diese teilweise unbestimmt war.
Oder gibt es dieses Problem in New York massenweise?
@jordanm6084 Says:
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@bonedale Says:
The solution shows no regard to human life. They should have evacuated the building and surrounding buildings. The tackled all joints until done. But just like the initial cost saving decision, money and accountability will always trump lives
@MonarchXXII Says:
Interesting in light of today’s news
@josephg2553 Says:
We use miles per hour in America.
@princeedmirovillar8044 Says:
So basically what happened was... Citicorp's main building was built and supported by steel chevrons which offers structural support and stability in tandem with the weighted damper to centralize the shear forces brought on by winds blasting the four facades of the building straight into the support columns situated on the bottom.
However, they later discovered that the chevrons were highly vulnerable against winds that blows through the corners - Quarterly Winds - as the bolts connecting the chevrons together is only designed for winds blowing on the facades.
@1961Bullet Says:
This story hit Canadian news. I remember it.
@northseawolf Says:
'Old crumbling gothic church'
I mean there are gothic churches in Europe that are 4 x older than the United States...
That church looked a lot better in its original form
@Bibicologne Says:
Dieser enorme Aufwand wegen einer Kirche!
@overlordprincekhan Says:
Must've been the wind 🍃
@marcomorales4501 Says:
So greed of the companies was the problem, not surprised
@Siddhant-i4t Says:
This is why engineer hate architects
@SometimeSanta Says:
18:50 67
@karlotookofi8413 Says:
!!! Quality - CONTROL
for structural engineering ???
Who doublechecked in the past ???
WHO is DOUBLECHECKING today ???
WHO + WHEN + at what stage
QUALITY-CONTROL
is being carried out ???
At “CITICORP CENTER in New York,”
in the LAST CENTURY,
the designer has NOT been informed,
the designer did NOT check himself about the MAJOR CHANGE regarding connections of
steel structure.
The connections had been designed in welding but had been executed with bolts - too less bolts !!!
Due to the
INTEGRITY+HONESTY + BACKBONE
of the designer
failure of the construction and collapse of the building could have been prevented !!!
Can we take for granted today
INTEGRITY,
HONESTY,
BACKBONE ???
Can we rely on human beings,
can we rely on computer and AI
today ???
Today
“EPSTEIN - System”
is “everywhere.”
What are the differences of the
different national requirements, different national safety standards
different national technical standards,
different national environmental standards,
different national requirements regarding QUALITY CONTROL,
etc. ?
What are the differences of the different national reliabilities,
different work ethics of the employees,
different work ethics of the employers,
different work ethics of the third party control,
different work ethics of the government,
different work ethics of the legal systems,
etc. ?
We ALL ASSUME
competence and reliability and loyalty is given
by receiving a certificate,
by receiving a computer print out etc.
Contracts often are signed by handing over responsibility as much as possible to “others.”
TODAY,
working under increasing pressure
regarding LOYALTY,
regarding time,
regarding costs,
regarding cheap international labour in any field - from helper to engineer,
relying on computer and
AI - ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE,
quality - CONTROL
is MORE IMPORTANT than EVER !!!
Personal responsibility is NOT enough !!!
ANY COLLAPSE,
is AVOIDABLE
by
working with qualified + reliable contractors, management, workers, equipment, material
and
preventing any shortcuts
and
carrying out
serious + permanent + qualified
SAFETY- + QUALITY-CONTROL
and
working with contractual partners and team members based on
INTEGRITY,
HONESTY,
BACKBONE !!!
!!! Today loyalty is often
equated with teamwork -
EVEN to COVER UP deficiencies in SAFETY + QUALITY + EDUCATION !!!
In this context,
across cultures and nationalities,
LOYALTY is frequently DEMANDED even to
COVER UP any DEFICIENCIES
f.e. regarding
SAFETY + SECURITY + QUALITY + EDUCATION + POLITICs +
ADVISERS etc. !!!
Nevertheless, due to above
mentioned “COVER UP,”
documentations,
control records, reports AND
CERTIFICATES, CONTRACTS etc.
are “clean” for
“THIRD PARTY CONTROLS”
for the “auditors”
for the “anybody.”
“Most suspicious are situations where the employer, the client, the owner of the project, the government,
the student etc.
is NOT even interested in receiving
proper service
BUT
“proper DOCUMENTs.”
“In future
ARTIFICAL INTELLIGENCE
will not solve this “problem”
but might will support working and accepting
LOWER STANDARDS
at “site” by
supporting providing
false documents more easily.”
“The fundamental knowledge, morality, and values,
especially within management from the bottom to the top,
obviously often do NOT match the minimum requirements by law,
do NOT match the requirements by SAFETY- and TECHNICAL STANDARDS,
do NOT match the MORAL STANDARDS,
do NOT match international law and international agreements in business, in military, in humanitarian, in medical aspects etc.
but
the fundamental knowledge is more and more missing,
laws getting more and more ignored,
morality and values are
shaped or corrupted since years to the actual “system” !!!
The real negative consequences, especially regarding
“accidents, legal issues,
medical issues,
financial issues, wars etc.”
due to
LACK of SAFETY,
LACK of QUALITY,
LACK of EDUCATION,
LACK of MORAL,
LACK of BACKBONE
+
INCREASE of CORRUPTION,
affect the people,
affect the workers,
affect the soldiers,
including their families,
f.e.
on “construction sites,”
in the “army,”
everywhere !!!
The real negative consequences in construction projects
for the construction and for the user of the construction is the negative impact regarding durability,
regarding lifespan of the construction and regarding SAFETY for the users of the construction etc.
“The MANAGEMENT accept
or
do not get informed
or
DO NOT EVEN WANT TO GET
INFORMED
or
DO NOT EVEN care
or
the management is NOT capable
about the REALITY !!!
Did the “values” really change dramatically
in the last decades from
“BACKBONE,
BASIC KNOWLEDGE,
SAFETY,
RELIABILITY,
QUALITY
etc.”
to
values driven by priorities like,
TIME-,
COSTS-,
CASH-BACK-,
OPM-,
CORRUPTION-,
MULTI-MEDIA PRESENCE-,
etc.
or did change something else ???
Our “natural behavior” might have been corrupted as well already
or
“has been run through another
evolution process” ???
Obviously behavior of many people changed or mutated from that of a natural, backbone-equipped human being
to a “corrupt” FOLLOWER - or ???
Our actual behavior for sure does
NOT match with our
NATURAL HABITS regarding HEALTH,
mental health and physical health.
Sustainable
PEACE, RELIABILITY, HEALTH and
POSITIVE PROGRESS
will never be achievable by acting against
HUMAN NATURE !!!
STAND UP
!!! NEVER GIVE UP !!!
.
@viaticknight8813 Says:
The church at 1:38 is so beautiful!! Shouldn’t have been torn down
@whoopass2rb Says:
This is why accountability is such an important aspect of leadership. The engineer managed to be accountable, telling everyone that needed to know about the problem and the repercussions, at the risk of what it meant for his professional career. Went out of his way to redo calculations and confirm the horrors, then fast acting to fix them. Kudos to him and like other comments, I think that stands out in why I would trust them to continue to design / build things. I have faith in people of that level of ethics mindset to do the right things.
Yet the CEO of the bank decided "we don't want panic" and said nothing. While understandable (on the panic front), it's unjustifiable on the accountability front. Instead, he cut deals with other CEOs and government officials to try and "fix it" under the nose of everyone by means of "insurance policies". All those people who worked in that building during that time, 100% should of got a "danger pay" payout and I hope someone tried to sue Citicorp for it (yes I know how that would unfortunately cascade eventually on the engineer).
I say that not because you need to punish those involved in this financially, but because the leader of that company decided it was appropriate to jeopardize the safety of every working person (and realistically all the surrounding buildings / civilians) with no intention to effectively communicate that risk to them. Think about how fast the building would have been fixed if they had just halted operation within and allowed for the repairs to be done with no worries about having to be operational by the next morning? It took what, 6 weeks to do under those constraints? It probably could have been done in 2 weeks without them.
This is why I can't stand many of the leaders today; this story is from the 70s and yet they haven't changed. Everything is risked for a dollar and that greed has consumed them and their conscious - if they even had one. That statement is true even to this day.
I enjoyed this story because of the engineer and how much faith I have in the moral values of people who take their jobs seriously. I continue to be disappointed by others who are in appointed leader positions and attempt to justify high salaries to hold it. I get why you don't say things in the moment. But when all was said and done, hiding it for 20 years is inexcusable; scratch that, they would have kept hiding it until someone forced it out of them, which just happened to be 20 years later. The way I take that: they just didn't want liability lawsuits to ensue; so you wait out a statue of limitation periods and dust your hands off. I hate corporate America and the leaders running it are a bunch of cowards; yes even many of them today. Just wait for what's coming economically real soon, these people in charge have no regards for the consequences of their decisions just to make a dollar.
Great video, thank you for the time and effort put into it!
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