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@nobodyspecial1852 Says:
God allowed his bs sorcerers to actually perform magic and bolster his beliefs about his own agency as their ruler. They weren't allowed to do anything about that canyon of water swallowing them up.
Also the on/off leprosy hand, being "within the fold" and being healed, Jesus telling people to stretch out their hand(s) and be healed. God established what brought healing, being within the fold, and killed them that weren't. Swallowing up rahab is another metaphor that happened right in front of pharoah, he didn't get that either, neither did his sorcerers, and they got a lot of people killed for their failure.
@gi169 Says:
Thank you CE.
@ajgibson1307 Says:
Amen and God bless
@checkmate5338 Says:
Interesting... although Islam is still true.
@Doosje1977 Says:
Thank you and God bless! You're brother in Jesus Christ, André from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
@steveprofiler Says:
If Jesus did something that seemed like a mairacle, how do you know it was not a magical trick?
@williamrice3052 Says:
Some may choose to die for one they know to be good, yet Christ died for all while knowing we were yet sinners.
@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe Says:
If you could pick the best basketball player to be on your team, would you want his extreme effort or his moderate effort? Jesus was an "extremist" by the hundreds of years old definition, not the last few years' twisted definition.
@frankcardano4142 Says:
Harryfaber.
You will claim that your life as an atheist involved….
Drunk
Drugs
Fornicator
Liar
Thief
Hated god
Loved sin
@kleine_soldaat Says:
Sign me up😂🤣🤣💀
@mali-c8g Says:
Lunatics, lmao
@simplyseculardave Says:
If you are asking the question "What is the difference between an eyewitness and an extremist?" You are away out in left field and probably shouldn't be advising anyone on anything. This is like asking what the difference between a person who witnesses a crime, vs a person who commits a crime? and trying to blame them both equally.
The idea that no one will die for a lie, is completely false, we see this in rare occurrences every year. There is NO Evidence of the resurrection(s), at all. If there was evidence of this, the would only be one religion, and there's a good chance that it wouldn't be modern christianity.
@steveprofiler Says:
They did it because they did not have free will.
@zuzairiel4837 Says:
have to thank romans for crucifying jesus... without romans jesus was not crucified and there was no atonement for mankind...
@TheK1ngdomK1ng Says:
Muslims would argue, "We don't know who wrote the New Testament."
@Bilbo383 Says:
Could the NT disciples genuinely believe in the NT miracles, and be mistaken?
If yes, your whole argument falls apart.
@Scorpion-my3dv Says:
I like those three points. Very good
@allanrobis777 Says:
Pfander films already debunked islam on its core.
@Believer7468 Says:
Beautifully said!
@trees8444 Says:
Sign me up! Love it !
@stephenkaake7016 Says:
the apostles were hoodwinked by God, he appeared to them as Jesus after he died, Jesus was dead, God can show up as anyone or anything, Angels, Demons, Jesus, Mary, we all need a belief that helps us in life, their lives sucked back then, I live in a modern day world and I can barely stand this, I prayed to God to help me and they changed me, gave me gifts, talk to me, show me visions, they got me to believe a lot of things that weren't true, they aren't focused on 'what religion is true' but what helps people have productive lives
@EdwardRomanOficial Says:
What kind of stuns me is the fact that many atheist/agnostic that once were Christians (and they were truly, or so they say), and were for a very long time and yet lack much understanding about things of God… although they claim to know enough; some (of the former Christians) has accused God of loving people suffering, dying, etc. (as I saw in one of the comments on this very video), some accused Him of hiding from them, and many more. I say this with respect, with no intention of offending anyone; shouldn’t you know better if you were a Christian before?
@Bomtombadi1 Says:
The difference is whatever mental gymnastics believers make to ensure their eyewitnesses aren’t considered extremists.
@cisuminocisumino3250 Says:
John 15:13
"Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends."
@Worlddiscovery73 Says:
Muslim martyrs don't die for their cult, they kill for their cult. There is a big difference. No one except Christians die when they become martyrs. When Muslims become martyrs, kids at a pop concert in Manchester get slaughtered.
@jeffphelps1355 Says:
Jesus said to "love your enemy" very radical in His time and ours. Christianity doesn't promote violence unlike Islam
@frankcardano4142 Says:
But why are these Muslims so sure that they are correct?
A. Because they think their own thoughts are gods thoughts.
@nothingbutthetruth613 Says:
There's one huge problem with trying to use this as some sort of evidence. Who said anyone died? Even the nt only mentions one. The rest dying are all legend. There is no historical evidence for any of it. So you have to somehow believe these stories actually happened in order to believe the other stories happened but we have no idea if either one actually happened. Doesn't sound like evidence to me. There's also cognitive dissonance but even without that, you got no proof to any of it
@larzman651 Says:
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the LORD JESUS and shalt believe in thy heart that GOD raised him from the dead thou shalt be Saved 🙌 for GOD so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whomsoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life 🙌
@thomasharp3246 Says:
And Christian martyrs were innocent people who were murdered. Muslim martyrs murder innocent people. Pretty big difference there.
@johndeeble4095 Says:
Jesus was martyred and so were the apostles. They didn't get to choose the terms. They were called to die for God, not the kill others with bombs vests in the name of God. There's a difference between being martyred, and killing yourself and others and calling yourself a martyr
@sawtoothbygeorge Says:
Satan rules the earth.
@bandie9101 Says:
1:38 they eat (with) Jesus.
@ytube777 Says:
What did the audience member say (couldn't hear it)? And were not the companions of muhammad also eyewitnesses?
@StruckDownNotDestroyed Says:
Eyewitness testimony is evidence, even in a court of law today. It's an inconvenient truth that has stood the test of time that can't be denied or disproven for those who don't want to believe the gospels.
"For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty." II Peter 1:16
@thatomofolo452 Says:
I am the chosen one 🏋️🏋️🏋️💯💫
@jefenterprises8006 Says:
To suffer and die for something is the highest form of faith.
For to me, to live is Christ, to die is gain. Phil 1:21 🕊
@gorillaz_jbi Says:
The rapid expansion of Christianity is also evidence for the validity of New Testament. But what about other world religions that rapidly expanded too like Islam?
The reason why the explosive growth of the church out of Jerusalem was the unique empirical event that Christianity needed to be based on, was the bodily resurrection of Jesus. That could have been refuted easily by the Romans or the Jews and yet they didn’t do it. They had the power to do it quite obviously. So I just find it hard to believe that this could have come out of Jerusalem when the Romans and Jews could have squashed it easily.
Now with regard to Islam, Islam spread by use of the sword.
But then you’ll hear some people say, “bUt wHaT aBoUt tHe cRuSaDeS?”
The Crusades didn’t start until 1095AD and they were a response to Muslim aggression in the Holy Land.
Christianity had been established for over a thousand years prior to the Crusades. In fact, Christianity grew when it was being persecuted.
Whereas Islam grew when they were the persecutors. In fact, in the first 100 years of Islam, the followers of Muhammad tracked all the way across Northern Africa and across the Straits of Gibraltar through Spain, and were stopped in 732AD exactly 100 years after Muhammad died by Charles Martel, who was the ruler of that area of France. Martel, which means hammer, he stopped them there and repelled them and eventually the Muslims retreated back over the Straits of Gibraltar, back into Northern Africa, but all of Northern Africa remains Muslim to this day. It’s spread by use of the sword. Whereas Christianity did not.
This is just one piece of evidence. Not the spreading itself, but the “means” of the spreading. I wouldn’t base my whole case on just one piece of evidence. There are other lines of evidences that seem to show that this really happened. Mainly because it could have been refuted.
On the other hand, how do you refute Islam? It’s not based on a historical claim. In fact, Muhammad (Islam) and Joseph Smith (mormonism), have a lot in common. They had “private revelation” that absolutely nobody can verify. In fact Muhammad had his first “revelation” in about 610AD, he thought he was being possessed by demons. He was having convulsions. It was only his wife Khadijah who talked him out of it and said, “No you’re getting Revelation from the same God as Moses.”
There is in fact another realm out there. But not every revelation comes from the good side.
So many people will try and say something ridiculous like Gods behavior is no different than the behavior as ISIS.
A common moral objection in this area or topic is when you read about ISIS slaughtering Christians, children, and women in the Middle East, but it sounds a lot like what God told Joshua to do in the Promised Land. How can Christians be outraged by ISIS and yet worship the God who sent Joshua to do his own version of ethnic cleansing?
First off, this is a very agonizing question that any believer in biblical authority faces.
However, there is a world of difference between the judgment upon Canaan that God commanded (which He clearly explains why), and the Islamic idea of Jihad. Jihad is a religious war. It is the use of violence to convert people to the religion of Islam. If the people that you are having Jihad against “repent” and become Muslims, then you are not to kill them anymore, because now they are Muslims. It is a use of violence in the propagation of the Islamic faith. It is a tool of evangelism, in effect.
That is COMPLETELY different than the invasion of Canaan in the Old Testament. That was an example of God’s JUDGMENT(not man’s judgment), upon these corrupt Canaanite tribes that were inhabiting the land of Canaan at that time. If you remember, God allowed Israel to languish for 400 years in Egypt and in slavery, before he brought them out. Because He said, “The inequity of the Amorite’s is not yet complete”. God waited until these Canaanite tribes were SO EVIL, SO REPROBATE, that they were ripe for judgment. Then He delivered the land over to Israel and He used the armies of Israel as a “tool of judgment” or as a means of bringing judgment on them.
But it definitely wasn’t a religious war, obviously. It wasn’t an attempt to convert these people to Judaism, or it wasn’t a means of spreading Judaism. So it’s a world of difference. God was judging the nations of Canaan in the same way He would later judge Israel, when He allowed the armies of Babylon to come in and destroy Israel and take its people into exile. So there’s a world of difference between what ISIS and what other Jihadists are doing and the sort of judgment that God brought upon Canaan and later brought upon Israel itself.
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