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This makes no sense at all. If he made the universe and all the rules and god knows what's going to happen before we do it. Then what's the sense of calling it free will. If your destiny is pre-knowing and pre-determined it's not freewill.
@dgomez828 Says:
Huh
@imaniashley1138 Says:
How does me saying we don't have free will imply that I do have free will?
This guys tryna do a 180 on logic right here lol.
@imaniashley1138 Says:
Statement 1- in our world we have cause and effect
Statement 2 - every effect I act and think upon is prompted by a cause.
Conclusion - our world is deterministic.
This is called deductive reasoning, it is subject to data you r able to gather.
So me reasoning that there is no free will, is deterministic, I don't need free will to deny free will.
@billmartinn9851 Says:
Absolutely 100% correct! Amen brother, well said!
@METVWETV Says:
And if he doesn't, then why would God tell him something to the contrary??
@johnnyrotten9757 Says:
For anyone who will answer-
Can God see into the future? And If so, how far?
@plowhand5591 Says:
❤️ Dr Turek! 👍
@pardus5045 Says:
We don't have something that is given to us. We don't have freewill because it's given to us.
@jayAh635 Says:
"Knowing something is going to happen does not imply causing it to happen."
Yes, it does if you're the one who set the whole thing up in the first place. If you set the initial conditions and you know the outcome, then by definition you caused it.
@gango23 Says:
If what I understand about Christianity is true then we do not have free will.
@georgewawman9649 Says:
If god knows the outcome then it follows that there is no free will.
An atheist believes in free will because there is no other option.
@jackperkins5138 Says:
It's your choice which way you believe, I believe.
@abdulazizmanaf2015 Says:
I admire his arguments but if he equates it to the Father only well n good but the moment he brings Jesus in as God................
@sami-iy1qo Says:
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@travisdiveley1652 Says:
Well said. EXCEPT...There has to be a Actor. Are you a willingly participant or FORCED Too? The Driver or Passenger???
@albertsmith6717 Says:
The problem is fallen man thinks he is god and as a god, knows everything. Yet, fallen man knows very very little in that freewill is incomprehensible because they are blinded and enslaved by satan.
@Psalm1828light Says:
I had this long conversation with a guy who thought that because Jesus said that we are slaves to sin or to God that means we don’t have free will I explained to him so many different ways that that doesn’t mean we don’t have free will. He refused to understand what the Bible was actually was saying. Literally told me that choosing between sin and righteousness was not free will.
@bornagainCharlie1360 Says:
Omnipotent omniscient and omnipresent.
@solomon05032 Says:
Hahahahha bruh he had to do a gigantic mental gymnastic right there even he hesitated for a sec.
And yes, if u are God and create something knowing what's gonna happen, that already negates free will. An all knowing creator automatically means everything is predetermined
@kingzamn45 Says:
God is not outside of time! But it's high time preachers stop using this statement cos its non biblical and it's honestly harming the chances of anyone who might be even considering converting to Christianity cos it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that that statement then makes God seem honestly evil in regard to whatever bad things happen in the world including the punishment of mankind for original sin.
@jaredmcdade8078 Says:
This is why Christians sin at WILL. As long as theologians support that God expects us to sin Christians will continue to sin .
@garysanders6091 Says:
As a parent you know when a child does something they shouldn’t the consequence of it - if you let them make the choice anyways they still have free will and you still know.
@mebsteve47 Says:
To be Convinced by Truth implies cause. To reject Truth implies Free Will. We can’t freely come to the Truth but we can freely reject it.
Let me explain… if I’m unaware of something and then I’m not because it or he walked into my life and revealed himself to me on his own means he “caused” my belief.
Think about it. If I can’t find God without him doing the revealing then he is the cause.
Image you are a child and the hiding place was the world. Imagine you didn’t known you were playing Hide and Go Seek. Would you or Could you even Seek, much less find the one hidden? Absolutely, not without someone “causing” the seeking. It’s by them“telling” you someone is out there. Their message gives birth to “belief” in you. You don’t come up with it on your own. And That might not even “cause” you to seek.
Then someone begins“telling” you about the hidden one. They explain to you who he is and who he is to you. This might grow belief in you. This might give life to a desire to seek. If you don’t reject or deny the hidden one.
And even if belief comes alive in you that he exists and even if a desire has been given to you from the messenger, you must still find him. Do you really believe it’s free will that “causes” you to find him? No way! The hidden must “cause” you to find him. Free will is worthless.
It’s the hidden ones Will that Matters and not yours. HE MUST Reveal himself, becoming the “cause” of your finding him.
It would be disingenuous to claim, “I found him through free will”.
Yes at any point you can exercise your Free Will and Reject the messenger, the message, or the hidden one. You can deny the Truth giver, the Truth or God but you can never Find Him without the hidden one Revealing Himself.
You must have a messenger sent, you must have a message sent, you must have the hidden reveal Himself to you.
Salvation has nothing to do with Free Will. It’s about the Hidden sending messengers to you to birth in you belief.
It’s about the message sent that opens your eyes to who the hidden one is and who he is to you. It’s the message itself that births Faith in us. And the message wouldn’t be possible without what the Hidden One did.
It’s the Work of The Hidden One Revealing Himself to you through His Son and the Cross.
If you believe and actually seek it’s the Result of the The Hidden One, not Free Will. If you believe and actually Find it was “caused” by the Hidden One and not your Free Will.
Again the only thing Free Will is good for us to Reject or Deny Truth. It can’t find it on its own. It can’t create belief within one’s self. Only Truth can give birth to belief.
It’s not that hard to see God is responsible for our Salvation and we do nothing except what he gives us to do. He give to us belief, a desire to seek and he reveals himself to us. It has nothing to do with Free Will.
@kingduckie9135 Says:
You absolutely don't have free will if you believe in an all knowing God. He knows every single thing you'll do in your entire life before you do it.
That's by definition not free will.
@RangerRyke Says:
Free will can be subjectively real but objectively false.
@thorstenenglert7200 Says:
Did I hear ever a conclusion here based on reason?
No, only based on unproven believe and hope.
@justsomeguywithagoatee8337 Says:
But I mean (and I'm a believer)... Why did he let people exist who will straight up damn themselves to eternal damnation and suffering?
@mrtwister9002 Says:
If free will, then why create us at all if He already knows the outcome?
@ft.nufonia Says:
I guess god is a "he" and not an "it" lol
@kaidenthecarpetcleaner Says:
God knows what we’re going to do and we’re doing it freely. Doesn’t sound like free will.
@williamrice3052 Says:
If there were not free will, God would know that, and would not offer rewards or punishments or issue commandments or judgement of individual deeds etc. Why would all of heaven rejoice over a prodigal that chooses to return - because the Father thought he was lost already.
@geertjekneefel5252 Says:
Calvinistic Pre-DETERMINATION makes God to be INSINCERE when He said in Revelations 2 :26 And to the one who overcomes and continues in My work until the end, I will give authority over the nations .. ( i'm not talking about salvation by the way but about eternal rewards ) .. Calvinism has a perverted view on eternal rewards , it's either utopian communist type of reward system ( where all rewards are equally distrubuted eg rewards of Apostle Paul and a lazy christian is just the same ) or some ELITIST view where God has predestined some elits super christian to receive reward while also predestined some lazy christian to have no reward at all but still go to heaven .
@tarp-grommet Says:
What awful nonsense. Word games meaning nothing at all. How about you start by giving is a clear, undeniable demonstration that the supernatural really does exist.
@Truthmatters- Says:
Hi Frank, do you have plans going here in New Zelaland?
@djarmstrong23 Says:
Tell this to your religious friends big Frank.
@nagolhayze9366 Says:
I freely chose to be a Calvinist ... and yet I was predestined to be an Arminian 😬
@privatejokerr Says:
That seems like a contradiction; if god is all knowing and also gives us free will. If both stand true somehow then I was created to go to hell.
@ChristopherBumbolo-y7m Says:
All thoughts are put in the mind before you are made no doubt about the fact of life is we don't have total control over free will if time is repeated over and over nothing is 100 percent we are preprogrammed
@koushikkoushik4493 Says:
Jesus Christ is the true God,speak to him he will speak to you
@yungbootyheadmcgee Says:
Another wonderful misrepresentation by Turek. Never fails lol
@MrBowenarrow Says:
In the movie, Bruce Almighty, God said that Bruce could not mess with man’s free will. This is where this all came from. This free will talk. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Man has free will.
@MrBowenarrow Says:
No where in the Bible does it say that man has free will
@theparodychannel7842 Says:
We have as much evidence for free will as we do 4 jesus
@salvadorochoa2321 Says:
Of course we have free will, but it doesn't mean anybody gave it to us.
@_CalledandChosen Says:
This is GODs earth and he created humans , so he has the power to do whatever he pleases with us or all things on his earth. But because of his free will , we as individuals have the choice of who we choose to believe in, what we do and how we will choose to live our lives.
Murders, terrorist attacks and other sinful actions are all premeditated , it’s not just out of random, and Because of free will people have a chose whether to go through with it and do bad or not and remain good.
GOD knows and sees all. If GOD was not a GOD of love and free-will he could kill all of us right now ,destroy his earth or control us everyday where we no longer think or act for ourselves- but if he did he would be a dictator and not a GOD of free will.
I thank GOD for free will. From the beginning you knew of all our actions and sins but yet you gave us free will to chose to live for you or for the world.
I Choose you GOD,JESUS and the HOLY SPIRIT- forever and always 💕
@rationalreview5178 Says:
This clip starts with a non-sequitur. If someone points a gun at my head and tells me to say that 1 + 1 is 2, I can do so and be correct even though I did not do so freely.
@clementine7655 Says:
Calvinism honestly is just one logical failure
And biblical failure
I mean, yes Romans 9 supports Calvinism in a way- but the Bible STILL tells us we have choices we make: which is why we are without excuse.
So is the Bible contradictory? Is half of it false? No. That means we have free will and predetermination at the same time. It’s man that makes it a one sided issue.
Calvinist’s are basically just people who wanted to have an identity in a book of the Bible.
@wolfwatchers Says:
God not only Knows but he works ALL thing out according to HIS WILL. not according to his foreknowledge,
Ephesians 1:4-5
just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will
Eph 1:11
In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will
Eph 2:10
For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
Romans 9:18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.
Rom 9:21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?
@shamonkhan9625 Says:
This does not follow.
A conclusion does not have to be a product of free will in order for it to be true. The conclusion can still be independently true and simultaneously a product of determinism.
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