During a recent college visit, an atheist asks Frank what's wrong with trusting a mind made from matter. There's just one problem: if our minds are just molecules, then we have no grounds to believe anything is reliable since every thought would be at the mercy of our chemistry and not reason. However, it seems that this student is open to what Frank has to say, leading to a very cordial and insightful discussion!
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@soundscapeproductions9173 Says:
That person in the audience is feeling the Holy Spirit😂
@sids5002 Says:
The laws of physics don't "come from" anywhere. They are just an explanation for how the world works.
Frank is knowingly disingenuous.
@michaelshortland8863 Says:
The problem with this video is that it does not understand natural selection. Natural selection is not a law, we as humans might call it a law, but it is not an actual law, all it is is pressure, that would be the result of trying to survive and reproduce within an environment and competing with other life forms for food, space and mates. That is all it is, but over millions of years that pressure will result in creatures that are more successful at existing within that environment, even if it changes, and all the creatures in that environment will be subjected to those pressures, so it will be a constant struggle to survive, and that pressure drives evolution and produces more and more strategies to promote survival, and leads to us, and all the animals on earth, and that pressure is still with us today. Only human intelligence may be able to circumvent that pressure, and to replace it as the driving force. We maybe able to maintain a status quo, or control our own evolution. But if you offered me a computer that had evolved, i would say yes please, because that computer would most probably be better than any we have so far designed, and would probably be conscious as well, as that is what evolution can do, and did with us.
@planes3333 Says:
As a christian sometimes we can not trust our thoughts, the bible says the heart is deceitful and wicked and who can understand it.
@BuddyBud-xj5qh Says:
The argument about people evolving from apes falls flat for the reason that why aren’t they still evolving into humans ? Also ancient people from all over the planet have been worshipping some type of Gods whether they be rain gods, rainbow serpents or gods to sacrifice virgins to volcanoes. Primitive humans knew there was a creator so why so many people now don’t believe ? I don’t understand. God bless you all
@ryanevans2655 Says:
Perhaps natural selection is just the assembly line God designed to form us from dust
@JackW76 Says:
The brain is not the mind.
@ianrena1 Says:
May of 2025, Frank, give us an update of him. Still atheist or a Christian ?😃
@burgcarli929 Says:
The waves in the ocean are not random. Does this kid not know about the moon?
@wanda5839 Says:
Saying that we are the result of the evolutionary process is like saying that a watch was not made by a watchmaker, but by the watchmaking process. I'm very sorry but processes don't create things. Thinking beings use processes to create things.
@freeborn7 Says:
Bang on! Without God, there is no such thing as intelligent beings. They are just moving through time like the rest of the Universe. All 100% determinism. So, the very fact that we're having intelligent conversations proves that we are created.
@Denis-lp3pz Says:
if macroevolution is true, you'd expect finding a functioning and fully charged laptop computer on a remote uninhabited planet that wasn't designed by anyone. That's still more probable and less complex than a living cell popping out from non-living matter fully equipped with everything needed for survival and reproduction
@stevenhoyt Says:
it's as if turek wants to do philosophy but without ever engaging the philosophical dialectic.
start with fodor, for instance, when you presuppose that everything in a physicalist world is reducible to physics.
if a probabilistic system can exist in a deterministic world, then it's possible to have outcomes which 1) have antecedent, causal conditions but 2) the outcomes can't be traced back to a specific physical law while, 3) still being governed by physicalist laws.
so the question of how a person can have a conversation if that state of affairs isn't reducible to physical laws is far too naīve.
rush hour traffic isn't reducible to physical laws, it's an emergent property of highway goings-on and explainable in other terms, all of which are still entirely physicalist explanations.
@BlackHat-v4j Says:
So listen this athiesm gives no reasoning is false
Because who designed god wait god doesn’t need a designer
What laws that drive evolution what created them what exactly do you mean by that explain
No you can trust the thoughts in your head by the study of the brain
My brain is made by this given by birth
So god created humans randomly but apparently this logic doesn’t apply to god
It’s so annoying because it’s like science always has to hold the high head
Program comes from program except god you can’t apply this logic which we apply to everything to god
Stars are complex as hell specified
I see that science always has to held the high ground but religion doesn’t have tob
@SmugHomura Says:
I like Frank, but this is just the same dumb argument that's been around for decades and literally has a name: God of the gaps.
"I don't understand how this works, so it must be god". If Frank didn't know how rain came to be he would attribute it to god as well. It's the weakest argument for religion ever and it's an unfalsifiable which is why it's so popular as a gotcha. "oh, you can't explain to me exactly how this super complex this works? Guess god is real after all!"
Christianity in specific really shows man's fear of the unknown. They NEED an explanation so badly they'll take an omnipotent being in the sky to explain it if they have to. God forbid (pun intended) that there be questions we just haven't found an answer to yet.
@tommytomtom320 Says:
Even if that God exist, the problem can never be solved. It's beyond obvious that God is a narcissist, admitting no blame, guilt or responsibility. While everything that ever happened is his will, he himself put everything in motion.
The fate, actions, situations and qualities of every created being is a consequence of what God caused, which will keep resonating, forever.
So, when God accuses the created of wrongdoings, he accuses himself, something that the narcissistic God deflects immediately.
The attempt to blame Lucifer for causing consequences, is exactly what to expect from the narcissist God. Even if Lucifer exist and set something in motion, it's still not the fault of the created being Lucifer.
The only solution to the Gordic knot, is for that God to publicly admit this, and apologize to every soul that ever existed. Not something a narcissist would ever do.
Pride and narcissism means God is stuck in his own hell.
Hence the paradox is insoluble & eternal
“If you think you know everything, you’ll never learn anything,”
@Rick_MacKenzie Says:
I trust a computer because it has provided reliable results in the past and I can trust anything that is not designed on the very same basis.
@tommytomtom320 Says:
Being Educated often Means Having a Critical Mindset. Simply Put, You Don’t Take Things For Granted and You Don’t Believe Stuff Just Because an Authority Figure or Book Says So.
That Transfers to the Bible and Gods as Well: “It Says So in the Bible” Isn’t Automatically True for Someone with a Critical Mindset, and Things are not Necessarily Believable Just Because a Pastor Says It.
The problem is that in Particular Islam and Christianity are Authoritative Religions. In Christianity, the Only Path to Heaven is to Accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and in Islam, You Submit to Allah as Muhammad Revealed Through the Qur’an – The Word “Islam” Even Means “Submission”.
The Natural Response From the Educated Critical Mind is, of Course, “Why?”
And “Because Muhammad/Jesus/God/the Bible/the Qur’an Says So” Is Not a Valid Answer.
Because We Had the Luxury of an Education That Afford us The Skills to Think Critically, Rationally, and Reasonably. This, in Turn, Allowed us to Objectively Read the Bible, Koran, Dhammapada, Vedas, and Other Scriptures and Holy Books. When that Happens We Often Reject the Claim That the Characters Found Within Being Educated Often Means Having a Critical Mindset. Simply Put, You Don’t Take Things for Granted and You Don’t Believe Stuff Just Because an Authority Figure or Book Says So.
Because We had the Luxury of an Education that Afford us the Skills to Think Critically, Rationally, and Reasonably. This, in Turn, Allowed us to Objectively Read the Bible, Koran, Dhammapada, Vedas, and Other Scriptures and Holy Books. When that Happens We Often Reject the Claim that the Characters Found Within Exist in Reality. If So Many Highly Educated People Don’t Believe in God… Maybe It Is Because They Know Something You Don’t, It’s Because, Due to Their High Intelligence and Education, They Have Realized That All Gods Are Imaginary. Educated People Tend to Believe in Things That Can Be Proved and For Which There is Evidence.
I don’t Believe in God for the Same Reason You Don’t Believe in Vampires, Faeries, Werewolves, Pegasus, Mermaids, and Numerous other Supernatural Beings from Myth, Folklore, and Fantasy. You Make an Exception for One Preferred Flavor of Myth; I don’t. I believe in the Power of Loving Kindness, Illuminated by Self-Reliance and Mindfulness. I Neither Need, Nor Desire, a Belief in Deities to Walk That Path. To Exist in Reality.
“No amount of Evidence will Ever Persuade an Ignorant Person.” “If You Think You Know Everything, You’ll Never Learn Anything,”
@ffjsb Says:
Evolution is true, God is not on a deadline. The world is 4.5 BILLION years old. We need to stop thinking that the creator of the universe who created all the laws of the universe, wouldn't use them.
@no_colinho_da_ea Says:
This is where Elon Musk began
@VeridicusMaximus Says:
"Mind exist!" Mind is not a thing per-se - it's a phenomenon that arises from biological processes in a brain - an actual material thing. As your brain goes so does your "mind." Does Turek have any examples of disembodied mind/s? I did not think so! More evidence that your disembodied, timeless, space-less, immaterial, being does not exist - can't exist. Nature is wonderful and awe inspiring without your UN-evidenced being. You have no explanatory power with such bald assertions of mere 'concepts.' Last I checked it's you guys who have creatio ex nihilo not us. How did that happen? How did a disembodied, timeless, space-less, immaterial, being who was the only thing in existence speak into nothing and out came everything which is wholly ontologically different than itself? By what supernatural mechanism did this occur? Please demonstrate!
@rud5101 Says:
Isn't this basically just the "What if we're in the Matrix?" argument? Obviously if all of our senses are lying to us, then sure, reality isn't what we think it is. But does anyone really go around thinking that way?
@williamreymond2669 Says:
Your mind creates your physical brain from biological components your body spits out, 'What fires together wires together,' that's brain-science 101. Question is, what is the mind? Where does it really exist?
That hallucinatory image you see when you open your eyes and look at the world around you, where is the picture? It is not in your brain, the information of that image is rushing around your physical brain, but where is the picture? You experience that picture of the world as being outside of your physical body, but it's not there either, so where is it? It's in your mind, but where is your mind?
@paulhaynes3688 Says:
Does theism allow for reasoning
@paralicular3927 Says:
Science is just the study of how God did it. Nothing is invented. We only discover how to use something that already exists.
@reggrunow1460 Says:
Hilarious that the whole con of this man still boils down to the watchmaker analogy. We see evolution all around us, except in con men as they can't evolve a better argument despite it being debunked as absurd continuously. It seems Frank just relies on placid and relatively dull witted audiences...
@crossvinburn831 Says:
How to get saved and be right with God who loves us, for eternal life!
As anyone can get saved, if they make the choice to do so.
1.Realize that all of mankind have sinned before God in one way or another.
Romans 3: 10-12+23 (KJB)
10. "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
11."There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God."
12."They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one."
23. “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.”
2.Realize that God loved us enough to allow Jesus to pay the price for our sins, by his blood shed on the cross, as a free gift given to us as sinners.
Romans 5: 8-9+12 (KJB)
8. “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
9."Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."
12. “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for all that have sinned:”
3.Confess unto God to accept this freely given gift of forgiveness, that forgives all sins.
Romans 10: 9-10+13 (KJB)
9. “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”
10."For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
13."For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
Hebrews 9: 27-28 (KJB)
27."And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"
28."So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”
Revelation 21: 8 (KJB)
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
Romans 6: 23 (KJB)
“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
Lastly, here is an example of what to pray to God to get saved and forgiven of your sins.
“Dear God, I am a sinner and need saving.
I know I’m not good enough to get to heaven and I need you to save me.
I need the righteousness of your son, Jesus Christ.
I believe that Jesus is the Lord, who died, was buried and resurrected so that his precious blood can wash away my sins.
I trust in him alone to save me.
Nothing else. Not my good works or anything else. Only Jesus.
I pray this in Jesus’ name, Amen.”
@atabac Says:
I like this guy debate with Sam harris
@lupeabogdan5658 Says:
I shall answer to who created god?
The Answer is:Man😉
@EatLeadPal Says:
Sounds like atheists believe in magic.
@Postmark-i5m Says:
$10 k every time Frank talks.Easy cash !
@RitmosMC Says:
You can use the exact same argument on a Christian though… after all, without your brain that you clearly can’t trust (as the video so kindly displayed for us), how do you know Christianity is true and that you are not delusional? You can’t.
@steveprofiler Says:
I react to my brain since I do not have so called free will. That is also why I do not believe in the christian god since that god would be responsible for me to believe. I do believe in a some of what jesus have supposedly said since I react to it in my daily life. So it seems strange to me people that call themselves christians and claim to believe in so called free will, do not react accordingly to what they claim to believe.
@RobertSmith-gx3mi Says:
Why should I believe your supernatural claims when you can't even manage to get? What atheism is correct even after years of you being told what it is.
A lack of belief in a deity does not prevent the human mind from reasoning.
Although a belief n god it can be argued does Prevent the human mind from rationally reasoning The morality of things like slavery and mass murbirth. Both are either condoned or have been perpetrated by your deity. But you will twist yourself in knots to irrationally justify this kind of behavior
@lancep4164 Says:
Frank is pretty good at supporting the argument “Since we don’t know the answer it must be God”.
@wavemaker2077 Says:
Arguing with a non-woke person is totally different. This conversation is very satisfying. There is respect in the conversation. The guy is an atheist but he is respectful.
@PortmanRd Says:
Most atheists would have the exact same argument when talking to a fundamentalist Christian.
@sroth2021 Says:
'There’s just one problem: if our minds are just molecules, then we have no grounds to believe anything is reliable since every thought would be at the mercy of our chemistry and not reason.'
This is the height of stupidity only christcucks could conjure up an argument as inane as this.
Our minds are fully dependent on matter period. When you damage part of the brain or stimulate an area of the brain or if you give someone a certain drug or hormone their behaviour is influenced. Period.
It's such a shame that the religious with their brain rot are the only people popping out kids.
@Ozzyman200 Says:
If you enjoyed 'I don't have enough faith to be an atheist', you might also enjoy these other titles from the same author:
'I don't have enough hair to be bald'
I don't smoke enough to be a non-smoker'
'I don't have enough food to starve'
'I'm not gullible enough to have faith'
and 'I'm too smart not to see the new clothes'
Don't think about it, just keep buying the merch.
@kittyhawk0420 Says:
If you type “pink elephant” on a computer, and pictures of pink elephants pop up, you know some programmer designed it. Simple. Now imagine the program for developing a human. Much more complex, and no designer? That’s ludicrous.
@PortmanRd Says:
Reason and religion?
Never the twain shall meet.
@bennywins2930 Says:
This is childish adamance, yes there can be a designer but then who designed that designer? We can either choose to converge on a loop that the designer designed himself or divergently to go on an endless process of designers designing each and everyone. Atheists having their own axiom of godless universe and theist having their own axiom god created universe, but both have to understand there are more possibilities than god and not god.
@josephklimchock5412 Says:
The coming of AI is really going to screw many people up even further due to the fact that the conclusion given from a question to AI will be based on WHO put that into the AI data base. We already have some real screwy examples.
@svchok Says:
Супер! Как-то не думал об этом! "Почему мы можем доверять .."
@lcf2366 Says:
This can only prove there is something beyond the physical laws but not to God though. God did not invent computers and all other man made things. Christians have a major jump of faith in convincing people in the subject which is incorrect.
@adolfoajuz Says:
I think a good answer would have been to mention that our material brains can know something about the world just by using the principle of non contradiction. If you are listening to Frank right now, it is impossible not to be listening to him right now.
@dannysullivan3951 Says:
Christian silliness
@SportzIntel Says:
He has an open mind. I pray he gets the wisdom to see clearly. He'
s a wonderful and humble person.
@wax99 Says:
The whole debate is backwards. We can currently reason just fine, there's no question about it, but only Christians try to use God as a foundation and then turn around and say no one else can get a foundation like they can.
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