The argument for polygamy is shattered with one verse. Which verse? You'll have to watch Frank's exchange with a gentleman who is looking for advice when talking to his friend, a Hebrew-Israelite. Frank also points out that the Bible describes many things, but that doesn't mean that God approves of them all. We need to remember that descriptions are not prescriptions.
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Do not multiply wives, it doesn't say do not multiply 'wife'. Which means 'wives' is permitted, but do not multiply them.
@urlyadoptr Says:
so that verse was to the kings of Israel specifically - why would that apply to everyone else? Does the rest of the context apply to everyone too? Paraphrase a verse then take it out of context and apply it to back up your personal doctrine. Terrible but yet everyone is "ooooh that is good" since no one opened up their bible.
@aliisrael2780 Says:
Continue to read this verse? See precept upon precept line upon line .
@Vic2point0 Says:
"And Joash did that which was *right* in the sight of the Lord all the days of Jehoiada the priest. And Jehoiada took for him two wives; and he begat sons and daughters." - 2 Chronicles 24:2-3
@armageddon357 Says:
"I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s *wives* into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more." 2 Samuel 12:8. If having more than one wife is a sin, how can the LORD give *wives* into David's arms, and say further that had this been too little, HE would have given David even more? Having more than one wife may not have been the original design, but I do not believe it is a sin. GOD would not give anything sinful to any person. Again, this may not have been the LORDS original plan, but I do not believe that it is sinful in the LORDS eyes. Now why a man, especially in Western culture would ever want more than one wife? That I can't answer lol.
@nt220 Says:
The Chapter That One Might Think Would End The Debate On Biblical Polygamy: Isaiah 4.
@nt220 Says:
It is interesting that he said that every instance where the practice of having multiple wives was practiced in the Bible ended in disaster (which is NOT TRUE btw, noticed he only mentioned King Solomon. Even King David's sin was not having multiple wives, and the Heavenly Father acknowledged that if King David had asked him, that he would have given him such and such things) but he did not mention in the video the global human disaster of death and sin that happened from the first monogamous marriage mentioned in the Bible. Interesting, and selective picking of scripture in an attempt to prove a point that the Bible does not support i.e. prescriptive monogamy only.
@gemillopez5797 Says:
Oh so this means a woman are to not be a VIRGIN unto her husband. Only focus on one wife so she can be seggually promiscuous before a marriage license then manogamy. I had my fun with one or more men before marriage. Maybe Procreated and everything so here are the left overs I am a one woman man... Multiply wives is you have one wife come back with 10-10000 wives in a day. That is basic math multiplication. 🧮
@larrytompkins5719 Says:
Still doesnt change your biology
@larrytompkins5719 Says:
Still doesnt change your biology
@larrytompkins5719 Says:
Still doesnt change your biology
@debbielovingyahisrael6459 Says:
Vocab Malone is a joke
@Vic2point0 Says:
Polygyny remains biblical and righteous. God describes *himself* as having two wives in Jeremiah 31:31-34 and other places. He watched King Abimelech try and take a second wife in Genesis 20 and told him he hadn't sinned right afterward. Scripture says that King Joash did what was right in the eyes of the Lord as he took two wives in 2 Chronicles 24:2-3. Future prophesy in Isaiah 4 says it will be a means for women to remove their reproach.
So polygyny is not a sin. Trying to add to God's law in order to *make* it a sin, is another story (Deuteronomy 12:32).
@Ajaysimhareddy-b1l Says:
No single verse in the bible that says polygyny is wrong. God encouraged polgyny and prescribed it , and monogamy was described and not prescibed. Jesus gave the parable of 10 virgins and 1 man encouraging polygyny.
@Sarevo100 Says:
Genesis establishes male headship, patriarchy, that is, a HIERARCHY in the original Creation (Gen. 2:18; I Cor. 11:3, 8-9; 1 Tim. 2:12-13).
INHERENT within ALL hierarchies is the principle that there can be MULTIPLE subordinates but only one head. In marriage, this means the permissibility of multiple WIVES. The clear logic of this principle cannot just be summarily dismissed in the absence of some explicitly stated limiting factor. There is NO explicitly stated limiting factor in Scripture. This makes the monogamy-only assumption suspect “from the git-go.” Absent an explicit statement, the monogamy-only advocates try to find an INFERENCE to a limiting factor in Adam’s monogamy. But this violates the basic logical principle that you cannot deduce a universal from an individual example. The logic is fallacious. The syllogism goes like this:
Major Premise: John’s pet bird is green.
Minor Premise: Jack also has a pet bird.
Conclusion: Therefore, Jack’s pet bird must be green.
To which we reply: NO, Jack’s Pet bird does not HAVE TO be green.
It’s the SAME LOGIC regarding Adam’s monogamy:
Major Premise: Adam was married and had only one wife.
Minor Premise: Solomon was also married.
Conclusion: Therefore, Solomon could only have one wife.
To which we reply, NO, Solomon did not HAVE TO have only one wife. There’s no LAW or MANDATE in the circumstance of Adam’s monogamy.
So we have a UNIVERSAL principle (patriarchy) vs an opposite inference FALLACIOUSLY arrived at. The winner of this logical contest is clearly the patriarchy-polygyny proposition.
If the creation narrative establishes monogamy as the standard then, assuredly, we should expect to see this implication plainly set forth in those sections of the Law of God where the commandments are specifically spelled out. In fact, we should expect to see an explicit prohibition AGAINST polygamy. Why, then, do we see precisely the OPPOSITE in God’s Law of specific ordinances PERMITTING polygamy (Exo. 21:10; Deut. 21:15-17; Deut. 21:10-14) as well as specific laws MANDATING polygamy in certain situations (Exo. 22:16-17; Deut. 22:28-29; Deut. 25:5-10), as well as the numerous examples of men of God taking multiple wives and the abundant exegetical evidence connected with them supporting the lawfulness of polygamy? Why would God institute that which is CONTRADICTORY to His Law in the ESTABLISHMENT of His Law? The contradiction here goes to the very core of the monogamy-only argument! Ought we not to expect consistency from God “with whom there is no variableness or shadow of turning?”
This contradiction is decisively fatal to the monogamy-only proposition.
@Sarevo100 Says:
The Law of God is PREscription. It doesn’t get any more prescriptive than being a law or command of God.
Prescription #1 - Exodus 21:10 - “If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.”
Prescription #2 - Deuteronomy 21:15-17 - “15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:
17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.”
Prescription #3 Deuteronomy 21:10–14 “10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
SITUATIONS IN WHICH POLYGYNY IS MANDATORY:
Prescription #4 Exodus 22:16 - “And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.”
Prescription #5 Deuteronomy 25:5-6 - “If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.
6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.”
@Sarevo100 Says:
Job said, “Man Is BORN unto trouble as the sparks fly upward.” (Job 5:7) Just being born into a world of sin means we are born into a world of negative consequences. It’s just as logical for you to say that MONOGAMY resulted in the Fall. And look at what MONOGAMY caused in Adam’s and Eve’s household, resulting in Abel‘s murder by Cain! And look at how growing up in a MONOGAMOUS household affected Esau’s relationship with Jacob! Do you see the fallacy here? In the study of logic, this is what is called the False Cause Fallacy.
BTW, what negative consequences resulted from the polygamy of Caleb?
What negative consequences resulted from the polygamy of Jair?
What negative consequences resulted from the polygamy of Ibzan?
What negative consequences resulted from the polygamy of Abdon?
What negative consequences resulted from the polygamy of king Joash?
This is atrocious logic and flawed biblical exegesis.
@Sarevo100 Says:
Deuteronomy 17:17 is speaking about TREATY MARRIAGES, not polygyny. CONTEXT: Deuteronomy 17:17 begins in verse 14 and continues through verse 20. This passage is addressing the king IN HIS OFFICIAL CAPACITY as king, NOT as an individual. It is civil polity being dealt with here. There are four prohibitions. The first is to the nation in general: they may not appoint a king who is not an Israelite, a member of the covenant nation. The second, third, and fourth prohibitions are directed to the king himself as the representative of the nation: 1) he may not multiply horses 2) he may not multiply wives and 3) he may not greatly multiply silver and gold. THE HORSE IS AN INSTRUMENT OF WAR. This injunction does not forbid the king from owning horses, or even a vast number of them, for his personal industry—as a breeder, for example. The king cannot conscript the entire nation into the military. The third prohibition, against greatly multiplying silver and gold, likewise concerns THE STATE. It does not prohibit the king from the legitimate acquisition of wealth. It is not a violation of this law for the king to have millions or even billions of shekels in his personal bank account. It is TAXATION and the royal treasury which is in view here. The commandment against multiplying wives is sandwiched in between these two prohibitions. This injunction does not outlaw polygamy. What is being spoken of here is TREATY MARRIAGES, entering into covenants or alliances with heathen nations via marriages to foreign officials’ daughters, sisters, nieces, etc. It is of the same nature as the previous prohibition forbidding the people to appoint a stranger (foreigner) as king; marrying such a woman would involve having a queen (or queens) who were foreign, idol worshippers, precisely what this law speaks against. This law does not forbid the king from marrying more than one Israelite woman. Proof of this is in the rationale explicitly given for the prohibition: “that his heart turn not away.” It is not Israelite women (unless they were apostate) who would turn away the king’s heart from following the LORD, but foreign, idol worshipers.
It is instructive in this regard to take note of how God contrasts David, who had about 20 wives and lived polygamously his entire life, with Solomon.
1 Kings 3:1 - “ And Solomon made affinity with Pharaoh king of Egypt, and took Pharaoh's daughter, and brought her into the city of David, until he had made an end of building his own house, and the house of the Lord, and the wall of Jerusalem round about.
1 Kings 11:1-8 - “ But king Solomon loved many FOREIGN women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites:2 Of the nations concerning which the Lordsaid unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely THEY will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto THESE in love.3 And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart.4 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God, AS WAS THE HEART OF DAVID HIS FATHER. 5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites.6 And Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, and went not fully after the Lord, AS DID DAVID HIS FATHER.7 Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon.8 And likewise did he for all FOREIGN wives, which burnt incense and sacrificed unto their gods.”
1 Kings 15:5 - “ David did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save ONLY in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.”
@Ajaysimhareddy-b1l Says:
Monogamy is the biggest sin and not biblical also. Monogamists lust after other men's wives because of his desire. Men with multiple wives stick on to their wives only and donot lust after other men's wives.
@mooselee902 Says:
Not to multiply horses or silver either, so the king can only have $1? no
@Isabelle7516-n9w Says:
The Lord is ferociously against female promiscuity because it makes children fatherless but he is not against multiple women belonging to ONE man.
It does limit mass debauchery since sex happens within the confines of marriage and all the children have ONE father . All the children know their father.
Does not it perfectly images God the Father ?
@mistymoody6291 Says:
Sadly, for Adam he got himself a greedy wife and sadly for the world the original humans were conceived by a coward.,.
@Vic2point0 Says:
"Multiply" does not mean "don't have more than one", or else that passage was saying kings could only have one horse, one piece of gold and one piece of silver. And if it were a sin for kings to have multiple wives, that would mean God tempted or outright forced David to sin by *giving* him multiple wives, particularly since he followed it up by saying he would've given him even *more.* Polygyny remains biblical.
@ElohimNelson Says:
Solomon was brought down by taking foreign wives that didn't serve the god of Israel
@gertje721 Says:
I’m mean sure completely out of context it does say that. Don’t multiply wives or acquire too much wealth in Deuteronomy was specific advice for kings of Israel. It’s not saying don’t be wealthy or have multiple wives but to be carful about how much the king should accumulate before they are not being accountable to their obligations or being irresponsible to the people. So yeah if you completely don’t understand or purposely misrepresent the book, it does say that.
@GodupInc Says:
I don't think GOD ultimate plan is for polygamy but Deuteronomy. 17 17 is not an acceptable answer for why we are not to have multiple wives. That scripture was instruction for a king. If that's the case we shall not multiple silver and gold and not multiple horses unto ourselves.
@Aharon_Yisrael Says:
Solomon sinned because he took on wives God said not to take not because he had multiple wives
@oneshasouth574 Says:
Has polygamy ever brought a man closer to God spiritually???? All it does is satisfy his carnal desires…. A mean even if God allowed it, he will have to allow women to also take on multiple husbands.. Because God is just!!! Has the Holy Spirit ever led a man to take on a second wife? Only his carnal desires did that… the fact that David was a man after Gods own heart and was a polygamist, cannot stand alone, as he was a murderer, but a man after Gods own heart, he gave no justice to his daughter who got raped by her brother, he sons slept with all his concubines on top of the roof for all Israel to see…. it would seem, we have to delve into why he was a man after Gods own heart… and being a polygamist was certainly not one of the reasons…
@1Thess521 Says:
What about levirate marriages? Weren't those prescribed?
@Pweetypoo Says:
Bible says nothing about slavery being morally wrong because it depends on whether the person being a slave is being treated well or not. Just consider working for your boss, would you consider being called in on your day off a form of slavery? In that case would you be okay to just say "no" or are you obliged to turn up because the organisation owns your time?
@archerpaintball6822 Says:
Look at Moses, he wrote the ten comandments and had multiple wives. Then God gave Isreal laws about how to treat your second+ wife.
@davideperrone7662 Says:
“He [the king] shall not have MANY wives…” is not the same as “do not multiply the wives”
@charlesbeatty888 Says:
Weakest argument I've ever heard
@Shalom388 Says:
I was in a cult and what I saw in polygamy is disturbing
@RandySloan-i2t Says:
Yah told King David, " I gave you your masters wives..."!
@RandySloan-i2t Says:
Duet.17:17 says don't multiply wives, horses and gold...so, the law says ...because it can turn your heart away from Yah..
@BIGETHABOSS Says:
This guy is bending the word go read it all and god did not say it’s a. Sin stop lying
@BrokTheLoneWolf Says:
“Just because it’s Described doesn’t mean it’s prescribed”
…continues to use Adam and Eve as prescription. 😂😂😂 you can’t make this up.
@BrokTheLoneWolf Says:
Davids adultery is explicitly condemned tho.
@JustTheColemans Says:
That verse was for kings so they would be devoted to god and not distracted by worldly things
@mmcfearner998 Says:
My questions for those who support poly, does marriage reflect the relationship you have with God? And how to have multiple wives and not worship multiple gods?
@IeshaLewis-c9f Says:
Adding and Multiplying are 2 different things 🤔 Exodus 21.10 speaks of Adding
@workoutgameout Says:
It states that a king shouldn’t multiply wives or gather excessive wealth. Yet the preachers who say not to have multiples wives, sure as hell got riches.
@jamesreed2475 Says:
Frank Turek is a one liner waiting to happen that just hopes you dont crack the book and actually read. But does it mean God approves if he doesnt condemn? Those who practiced (Abraham) continued as a prophet with the full bleesings of his covenant. Jesus never allowed sacraficing of children among his people without grave consequences.
@Mr95_78Bullie Says:
You should go back and read sir.
@C.F.MARABLE_GLOBAL_SHOPPING Says:
THE WESTERNIZED BIBLE IS A FALSE BIBLE...
@ZaharYahawadah144 Says:
Blasphemy. Twisting the scriptures.
Deuteronomy 17:17 (NLT) The king must not take many wives for himself, because they will turn his heart away from the LORD. And he must not accumulate large amounts of wealth in silver and gold for himself.
This is referring to a king. He can still have more than one wife. But not in excess. Solomon was an example of excess and it destroyed the kingdom.
2 Samuel 5:12-13 (KJV) 12 And David perceived that the LORD (Yahawah) had established him king over Israel, and that he had exalted his kingdom for his people Israel's sake. 13 And David took [him] more concubines and wives out of Jerusalem, after he was come from Hebron: and there were yet sons and daughters born to David.
2 Samuel 12:8 (NLT) 👉🏾I gave you your master’s house and his WIVES and the kingdoms of Israel and Judah👈🏾. And 👉🏾if that had not been enough, I would have given you much, much more.👈🏾
Davids sin was taking someone else’s wife. Not having multiple women. The Most High HIMSELF gave him the women.
Deuteronomy 21:15-16 (KJV) 15 👉🏾If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, [both] the beloved and the hated; and [if] the firstborn son be hers that was hated👈🏾: 16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit [that] which he hath, [that] he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, [which is indeed] the firstborn:
Malachi 3:6 (KJV) For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Even Abraham had multiple wives.
This never changed. You people are an abomination.
You Christian’s are bugged out.
@holybibledefenders8793 Says:
yeah everyone in monogamy falls in disaster too, something called the grey divorce
@holybibledefenders8793 Says:
deut 17 , was talking about not returning to egypt , read the full chapter
@godfromthecreator Says:
Listening to a white man for any spiritual advice is crazy 😂😂😂
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