Who's responsible for the hardening of Pharaoh's heart? God or Pharaoh? With help from the book of Romans, Frank answers this question and explains why God seemingly interfered with Pharaoh's free will. | @Soteriology101
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@Sw1ftCl0ud Says:
Pharoah, Saul, and the Pharisees hold the same character. God ultimately gave them over to their carnal desire. The deceitfulness of sin...
@AngeloLawrenceDeSilva Says:
Our God is just and merciful. He is a God who is even patient with the ones who rebel against him. God didn't harden pharos' heart, pharos actions made God do it. There is a difference between God hardening and Pharos actions made God doing. But when we read the text it gives the idea that God harden pharos heart and punished him. That's the confusion here whether God violated his own principles on free will. This refers to Matthew 13 about the parable of the sower. God gives understanding with knowledge to people. Knowledge is his word and understanding is a gift from God. But people who refuse understanding will never know the will of God and as a result their hearts are hardened. That's why the word says "Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance, whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them". Through Aron and Moses God presented his knowledge to Pharos through the spoken word of his servants and with that surely God gave Pharo understanding which is a gift, but pharo didn't want to understand the knowledge or the word of God spoken to him. Because he refused understanding, what was given to him was taken. The understanding given to him was taken and his heart grew hard. The action of God taking back his gift of understanding is what refers to God hardening Pharos heart. God never violates his principles so God never interfered pharos free will.
@sweepingbricksfilms Says:
Great video. God bless you brother. Jesus Christ saves sinners like you and me.
@Objectivetruth9122 Says:
So we have free will up to a point? Until God gives us over to the desires of our hearts? I thought we were all sinners saved by grace alone.
@小永子 Says:
Everybody has his free will in his own MODE.
@toddstevens9667 Says:
What a dumb question. The question only makes sense if you start with certain presuppositions. And this nonsense about feathers and balances is ridiculous. None of that is in the text. And none of it is in Romans 9.
@mdelaney9008 Says:
Yep He did. Why? So that He got the attention of not only Pharaoh but all of Egypt. He wanted them to know He was real.
@SugoiEnglish1 Says:
LOL . Calvinists don't say Pharoah's free will was taken away ad we never say those who reject Christ finally ad forever had their free will taken away. STOP THE FREAKING STRAW MAN FALLACY.
@redfritz3356 Says:
Pharo refused to let God's people go. That's it. This other stuff is fantacy.
@emf49 Says:
Excellent!
@zankozjan5132 Says:
How do we know that pharaoh hardened his heart first?…. God told Moses he will harden his heart before he evan came to Egypt (when God was speaking through the burning bush)…
@osks Says:
Really Frank? Was the Pentateuch inspired with a pagan audience in mind? Moreover, you ignore the greater matter at issue here - the Lordship of God! If God is and if He is God (and He IS!), then He is absolutely sovereign over absolutely ALL things, INCLUDING the will of man - “Who has spoken and it came to pass, unless the Lord has commanded it? Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that good and bad come?“ - Lam 3:37-39
Scripture is clear (as we in fact see all around us) - man has a will, but his will is not free - either he is in bondage to the god of this age (2Cor 4:4), or he operates under the aegis of the Spirit (Rom 12:1,2) - either way, his will is just not ‘free’ (in the libertarian sense)… It is only in Christ that God’s own is set free from the grip of the Devil (Mat 6:13)
Your commitment to Autonomianism - the unBiblical idea that man is a ‘free moral agent’, betrays an unexamined (and horribly egregious) apprehension of the gospel - that bit between Gen 1:1 and Rev 22:21!
What you are in effect advocating, disavows the very sovereignty of God!
Ultimately, “So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires” - Rom 9:18
@Thanatos562 Says:
Saying God is justified to manipulate your will isn't exactly a good defense against the claim that God violates freewill
@captainmartin1219 Says:
This makes me want to do more research into the cultures of the Egyptian and people of this time period.
@ChevySamk Says:
basically hell before hell begins
@hots4jc Says:
Much like when He accepted Ables sacrifice but not Cains. It was the hardness of Cains heart and the wickedness of his own thoughts that was rejected, not because of some vegetables.
@incrediblystupid8483 Says:
Why are you yelling?
@trentonjennings9105 Says:
Isn't this really just the Frank Turek opinion channel? Other Christians and Christian denominations have a different take on many of his talking points.
@2l84me8 Says:
If there is a divine plan and god’s word is absolute, then there cannot be free will and we’re merely puppets being controlled by this god character.
@samcotten2416 Says:
I read a lot about ancient Egyptian theology at one time, and I remember a lot of what he’s saying here. The creature he’s talking about is the goddess Ammit, with the head of a crocodile, the upper body of a lion, and the hind parts of a hippopotamus. She eats the heart of any dead person whose heart is heavier than the feather of truth, basically just like he says.
@harveygitarista1600 Says:
Is Moses guilty of killing the Egyptian? Why did YAWEH not punish him for doing so? YAWEH even told Moses that it's safe to go back to Egypt because those who wants to kill him are already dead.
@Charlie-xp9lq Says:
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Pharaoh had no choice in the matter , God hardened his heart to bring about the exact event He wanted . Free will free will , Christians bang on about this like it's some sort of super power . Your will is completely powerless when it comes up against God's Will.
@Godsgotyourback23 Says:
Pharoah was not just a ruler to the people of his kingdom, he was also considered by them to be the physical representation of a heavenly diety, a god to be worshiped.
In his effort to show his power as being superior to that of the God of Moses, Pharoah doubled down on his resolve to defy the will of God.
So with every miraculous exhibition of the irrevocable power of Almighty God - His perfect, timely acts of goodness toward and protection of His people, respectively, Pharoah would respond by further hardening his heart.
The goodness of God was constantly being met by Pharaoh's determined will to resist and reject the sovereignty of the One and Only Living God, Who ceaselessly - with no room for doubt - proved His power and authority was greater than that of Pharaoh's.
Although his unwillingness to submit to the will of Jehovah played a major factor in hardening Pharaoh's heart - tested his resolve to remain the greater diety in his people's eyes and within his kingdom and his heart had reached its apex of hardness, in the end, after agreeing to let Israel, God's people, go, Pharaoh's last words to Moses was humbly and simply, "Pray for me."
@jessicamcberty1229 Says:
Romans chapter 1 is talking about reprobates who choose to completely reject God because of their lust and wickedness. When it says God gave them up, it is like God was saying “I’m done trying to call you to me when you are choosing to fall deeper and deeper into wickedness”. The reprobate chooses to harden their own heart by the continual rejection of God’s love and truth.
@RangerRyke Says:
1 Moses didn’t write exodus if he even existed. 2 your doing ad-hock harmonizing. At the point where it says God hardened his heart, that’s all it’s saying. It doesn’t say it’s pharaohs choice at all. It says it’s god’s.
@sonlightmusic Says:
Would love to have a link to the historical references to the weighing against the feather. Thank you for this!
@jeanniestaller797 Says:
The first few plagues came after Pharaoh hardened his own heart. Then we find that God hardens Pharaoh's heart after that.
@W4YN0T Says:
Romans 9:14
14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion,[b] but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
@W4YN0T Says:
Romans 9:11
Though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls.
@tTtt-ho3tq Says:
My question would be what didn't God tell the Egyptians no more slave thingy again?
@philb4462 Says:
Nevertheless, God still didn't harden Pharaoh's heart which is why he didn't release the Israelites at that point. That is what it says in Exodus. Therefore God did tamper with Pharaoh's free will.
@newtestamentchristian6932 Says:
The 10 commandments, You shall not steal. If the person knows this commandment but disobeys it. He is dis-obeying God. God hardens folks hearts through His law. The law makes one accountable to sin. When one knows what Gods will is for him i.e. Gods law, yet dis-obeys it. This rebelling against God is how the heart is hardened. Pharaoh was told Gods will by Moses. Pharaoh rebelled against Gods word. Therefore Pharoah's heart was hardened by dis-obeying Gods commandments. This is How God hardened Pharoah's heart. Everyone who develops a hardened heart, this is the means by which God hardens it. Calvinism teaches God goes around cherry picking those who He directly through a miracle hardens their hearts. These folks have NO CHOICE in the matter. God never directly picks certain individuals and hardens their hearts regardless of what they have done. Hardness of heart only occurs through dis-obeying Gods will for mankind. By going against Gods law, precepts, commandments. If there was no law of God no one's hearts could be hardened. God hardens mans hearts through His word.
@kinggenius930 Says:
To be fair, the existence of free will is wholly incompatible with the existence of an omniscient, infallible God
@steveprofiler Says:
It seems antinatalists are more loving than the God christians believe in.
@timothyvenable3336 Says:
This is a cool and interesting point. But ultimately it takes away from Romans 9, when Paul clarifies that “God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden”…
If the passage in exodus is only symbolic, to say that pharaoh was evil, it takes away from the mercy God shows to those who believe. It totally destroys Romans 9.
Rather, God hardened pharaohs heart for his own purpose and for His glory
@Mavors1099 Says:
Religious fundamentalists are always saying that Bible is the word of their god, but when they find a passage that they don't like, they just refuse to believe it.
@T0Mmichael1234 Says:
Bonesy a.k.a. James W
- *It EXPLICITLY states god hardened his heart (this mind you is after Pharoah WAS ABOUT the let the Israelites go).* -
Now you say,
- *God makes it clear that if he didn't harden Pharoahs heart that Pharoah PROBABLY WOULD HAVE let the Israelites go.* -
Well what is it bonesy? I've got a great idea pal, how about you point out the scripture that clarifys Pharoahs thoughts on what he was going to do?
HAHAHAAA, *Laugh My freaking Face Off* bonesy. Can you make up your psychotic mind.
I didn't ask you for your opinion or personal interpretation, I want the actually scripture that states what Pharoah was going to do. Your interpretation is irrelevant, just *like your thoughts on a God you don't believe in.* Which btw, is significantly more irrelevant than anything else you have to say, including anything about "star wars" or "Harry potter" or "Lord of the rings" *dude.*
Our realities are obviously quite different, you apparently can't get enough of *"discussing the hypotheticals"* you don't believe in, so much so you spend large portions of your time indulging in them making them *part OF YOUR reality.*
Dang dude, your concept of evolution doesn't seem to be satisfying you very much, kid. I get it though, theorytales are quite empty, like an atheists head. Hence the need to indulge with Christians as you do.
@Unconskep Says:
God doesn’t do anything, there is no such thing, you need to prove Gods existence, before you claim he can do anything.
@Thyalwaysseek Says:
Hey Frank, is that like how Jesus was carrying a lamb around his neck everywhere he went and when he spoke a sword came out of his mouth? Interesting when describing the symbolism of Ancient Egypt you take it literally but when it's a symbol of Christianity you don't, why is that?
@96tolife Says:
The presence of God was a threat to Pharaoh's power. Therefore, he hardened his heart toward God in opposition to Him.
@The_Biblical_Layman Says:
Oh boy this is what it sounds like when you try to do gymnastic around the bible. SMH. That was painful to watch.
@didickcheeseburger Says:
god hardening pharaohs heart could just be the wording of the writer. maybe pharaoh hardened his own heart and god just knew what would come to pass without direct intervention. maybe theres another dynamic to the relationship of gods will playing out through our free will and we cant understand it so we write it the best way we can understand it although we dont really do the reality justice
@jacobtempleton-gw1hu Says:
The wages of sin is death. The earth is not full of innocent people. The earth is full of criminals on death row. God could have been just in giving Pharaoh capital punishment a long time ago. The fact that He didnt is patient and merciful. The fact that God hardened Pharaoh's heart is much less intense than just giving him the capital punishment he deserved a long time ago. If the warden at a prison wants to get the criminal on death row to mop the floor before he gets executed, that is just. If God wants to use Pharaoh for his glory by hardening his heart then that is just too.
@ifiok-dan7926 Says:
Only God knows a man's heart.
When we choose to not do His Will, we harden our hearts. When we reject Godly advice, we harden our hearts even more.
In allowing us to have our way as we refuse to do His Will, our situation becomes like that of the king of Egypt.
God gives men over to their wicked heart.
@dustinclark8680 Says:
I may be wrong but after the Israelites escaped through the Red Sea and the pursuing Egyptian army was crushed by the weight of the sea but didn’t the Pharoah survive? In the remainder of his years didn’t he tell others about how El Shaddai was real?
@mlauntube Says:
Interesting, but what are your sources there Frank? Just based on the majority of these kind of teaching I hear from the pulpit, I'm betting this is not true.
@TheMirabillis Says:
God knew what Pharaoh would do prior to the Creation of the World and still brought him into existence. That makes God the real villain in the story.
@scottwhitener9702 Says:
just curious if anybody else here hears the subtle tune of the mighty fortress organ rising in volume somewhere in the distance...
@Scorpion-my3dv Says:
Pharaoh had already begun to harden his heart long before God ever did. God, at a certain point, just let him stay in the position he had already chosen.
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