If only SX built a proper launch pad, it was pretty much doomed from the start, I’m surprised it worked as well as it did considering the damage to the engines.
@DailyCorvid Says:
SpaceX is about to perform a rapid unscheduled disassembly, to a cheering crowd. Lol.
@LordZontar Says:
AAAAAAAAAAND Vulcan-Centaur JUST successfully launched and made it into orbit early this morning ON ITS FIRST ATTEMPT. And while carrying a commercial payload that will be sent on its way to the Moon. And without the ULA engineers and employees cheering like idiots at a WWE wrestling match at every little development in the flight.
@andyharman3022 Says:
Launch is at 1:01:02
Booster separation at 1:03:59
@ashleymoore9063 Says:
Facts trump fiction when it comes to space travel . They will always be people who is cheaper enough to buy electric vehicles for the next couple of years at least as the press works hard to suppress all of the bad publicity of accidents and some breaking runaway thermal breakdown and stone like depreciation . How we seem to have gone backwards in rocket launching over the last 60 years is unbelievable.
@ashleymoore9063 Says:
It was all about starlink and control of the worlds communications
@dimitar4y Says:
lol instantly trash the interstate
i do expect elon to vaporize either a billion worth of equipment/building or get a few hundred people killed. Question is will he be sent to jail then? He's already got too many counts of fraud that would've landed a layman several lifetimes... Funny how the world works.
@MrPlome Says:
When will a new video about the Cybertruck come? Would love a video from you about how it turned out.
@xGaLoSx Says:
I really don't get the hate for how they're choosing to progress the project. They're learning more from these tests than they are simulations. It was no different with their Falcon 9 rockets and how long has it been since they had a failure there?
@davoforrest5 Says:
I appreciate your work and channel because of your willingness to swim against the rush of the muddling masses. I know this is a difficult task because I teach science in a public school , place where there is a dearth of objective or absolute truth.❤
@MrStevenMosher Says:
chemistry boy adds 0 value commentary
@aswansara Says:
Thunderfoot looks like he is about to come out as Trans anytime !
@thelemonwho Says:
1:09:14 The cosmic timing of that laugh and proclamation of "I think that's debris falling down!"
It's like he struck it from the sky instantaneously! 😮😅😂
@WickedServantEbay Says:
'Moon landings'
The guy who makes busted vids still believes in the heliocentric model huh
@1schwererziehbar1 Says:
34:05 - 34:40 "We can't actually make the F1 engine enymore."
Most interesting part to me.
@Nauda999 Says:
@1:17:45 "You can not get large group of people to agree on anything"
My counter arguments would be that large group of people agree that United States dollars have value and should be widely used.
Also existence of Christianity, Islam and Hinduism are examples how large groups of people agree on something.
@goodgremlinmedia2757 Says:
Are you ever going to acknowledge you were wrong about the wild success that is Falcon 9
@kenfryer2090 Says:
in a few years time the space x team might create something as good as the saturn rocket 60 years ago. way to go. and they only blew up two rockets with their "iterative". great work.. what inspiration. at this rate they might catch up with 60 year old technology by next year
also im looking forward to the dangerously flawed idea of a huge landing vehicle failing for landing on any planetary body and taking off again
im pretty sure dozens of refuels required to go to the moon is a very big flaw that eill come back to bite them.
its obviously a bad design but they have to iteratively realise that instead of using science logic and design principles.
its like reinventing the wheel as a square.. and iteratively realising it was a totally rubbish idea that could have been calculated using engineering principles
don't give praise to space x for making a piece of crap fly when its still going to be a peice of crap
@dukenukem5768 Says:
At 1:09:23 that was the whole rocket exploding. Control did not even realise it for a while, thought they had merely lost communication.
@scottishadonis Says:
What is not delusional about what Muskavich says…
@yooyo3d Says:
The 2nd stage exploded at 24000km/h which is not orbital speed, so I guess debris will fall to Earth... sooner or later.
The orbital speed is ~27000kmh.
@digi3218 Says:
I didnt watch this stream but you know I had to click on the video to read all the comments 😂
@DavidRDavidRoss Says:
Perhaps the Rocket Nazi should stick to things he's actually good at like being an antisemitic piece of shit and singlehandedly bankrupting social media companies.
@TitoQuintana1 Says:
Those who can, do; those who can't trash those who do and claim knowledge they do not have. What I don't understand, if you know so much more about the aerospace business than Elon, why are you doing youtube videos. You should have your own company and be making billions of dollars. Do you not like money, do you not want to help your country. I mean didn't Oneweb go to SpaceX to help them out after the Russians burned them on their deal. Also isn't ESA going to SpaceX hat in hand asking for help getting its SAT up after one delay after another on the Ariane 6. Hey, I'm sure you're right, after all the people like you, told Elon all kinds of good advice about rockets. Like you can't reuse them, and if you could it won't save you any money. Plus, you can't land rockets upright, you can't build rockets that cheap and fast. But Elon, he's an idiot, ULA tried to warn him, but he would not listen. Hey, ULA is now up for sale, having some money issues or something. Maybe you should buy them and show Elon and everyone how right you are, and how dumb Elon is. If you just don't like the man, just say so, That I can respect as honest, but trashing a person and his employees hard work, that's just sad.
@tycho_m Says:
I just love the enthusiasm thunderf00t has for STEM. Ultimately, the reason WDPLAC and all the debunking videos exist is because the guy clearly loves the pursuit of truth, evidence and technological advancement. Elon being a dishonest, snake-oil selling dictator-sycophant doesn't diminish the impressive work the people who do the actual science & engineering work carry out.
@Frosty-oj6hw Says:
The tilt away from the tower in the first ITF was deliberate to ease pressure off the ground based launch equipment and help it clear the tower more safely. The engines that "failed" didn't unexpectedly fail, they were known in pre-flight checks that they had problems and did not fire deliberately, they didn't scrub the launch because it can take off with some engines out, it is designed to have redundancy. A quick search online shows that it's capable of launch with a full stack + payload with 3 engines out, so under a normal launch condition they have 3 engines of redundancy. Thunderf00t BUSTED.
You said it took off with the minimum number of engines, that's also not true. The ITF don't put any payload inside of starship, so the whole stack is a lot lighter than it would be for a normal launch, and thus can take off with even less engines than normal, so even with 3 known not to start, it still has redundancy even after that. it's also worth noting that they do also take off commercial falcon rockets with engines known to be out, because it allows them to gather additional test data on how the rocket launches and flys under these conditions, they can gather the telemetry data from the launch and use that to improve future designs. Re-stacking the rockets is actually quite expensive because they have to drain the fuel and there's a lot lost to the transfer process due to the boil off. Having to reacquire licences for new launch windows and disrupt shipping lanes and all the work that goes into it is a waste of time, if they can launch safely with engines out on the pad, then a lot of the time they just will. Thunderf00t BUSTED.
The uneven thrust doesn't matter in this case, the 2 inner rings of engine can gimbal which allow it to compensate for uneven thrust when engines fail, it's designed specifically for that, to give it directional thrust control. All of this was re-confirmed in ITF2 where it had the same lean away from the tower despite all engines firing - it's deliberate. Thunderf00t BUSTED
Saying that they didn't know the cause of the overall failure is not the same thing as saying they "learnt nothing", this is just a basic error in reasoning. They capture mountains of data of all aspects of the ship as it launches and passes through the different stages of ascent. They're looking at pressures all over the ship, the engine efficiency, the response of the onboard guidance computers, the real rate of use of fuel at different stages, the amount they need to overcorrect to maintain on their flightpath and thousands of other things - Thunderf00t BUSTED
The IFTs are just that, they are test flights. They are designed to test the full stack, see how it performs and gather flight data for analysis. They aren't designed to land for a reason, because they do not expect them to make it all the way through flight, so even if 100% of everything goes right, it ends with a splashdown in the sea of both starship and the booster. You moving the goalposts to set expectations that everything should go 100% perfectly or it's a failure, is deeply dishonest. As you said the idea this will be ready "soon" is not realistic, but they're not saying that. There is a reason that they had a series of ITFs planned because the whole design philosophy is to build test rockets, learn from real launches and iterate on the design. The designs don't need to be perfect for them to learn important things. It's so blatently transparent that you're doing this so that you can mock any kind of failure as unintentional, there's only one person here that thinks a win is to see it pass through all planned stages, and that you. To reject what they are saying and to assert you know better the true intentions is delusional. Thunderf00t BUSTED
It's nice to see you actually give them a congrats for what they've done, I applaud you for that. What baffles me is that your primary complaint seems to be that it doesn't work first time. I just don't get it. You surely understand that SpaceX's deliberate product development philosophy is rapid prototyping, and iterative testing cycles. They have a whole series of launches planned where each time they hope to make progress and improve until they finally have a finished product. You mocking them about failures along the way is just really pathetic, it's so negative and snide and just awful. I hope you knock this off.
@jjnxyz4368 Says:
The irony of the king of clean flying rockets with terrible fuel burning and planet damage.
@karlschleifenbaum5793 Says:
This guy was surprisingly supportive of SpaceX, although he hates about everything they do in his prerecorded videos ... :)
@soquick69 Says:
Him talking about the Kessler effect at the end is hilarious. They were not at orbital speed.
This is the second launch of a totally new rocket based on intertive improvement.
@Harry-uq9qd Says:
We need some kind of betting (with free resources, not actual $) on when it'll be successful. More fun than a poll because long-term. I hope/bet they get it up successfully next time, then...4th time for total mission success, for putting something up in space or something?
@marinoceccotti9155 Says:
Better but still not good. The many (too many) engines booster was not a good choice. Many engines means many way of some pipe failing. Waiting for the next launch.
@GamingAmbienceLive Says:
The second stage lost all fuel without even getting into orbit how the fuck is it supposed to get to the moon or mars
@Therealpro2 Says:
It's always funny to see rabid hate of anything that is related to Elon Musk. Hilarious!
@Shantri Says:
Thorough examination of the launch https://youtu.be/ka5id7ZQKL4?si=7TDUSLVh3MzZuTOv
@BD90.. Says:
The moment Phil looks away it exploded 😂
@vernonbrechin4207 Says:
Fans tend to become masterful at excluding critical reviews from their consciousness. I wonder how much more money Musk will extract from U.S. taxpayers.
BREAKING DOWN STARSHIP IFT-2 LAUNCH November 18, 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka5id7ZQKL4
@SorinSilaghi Says:
It's funny when you talk about SpaceX price gouging when launching astronauts and you have to stop yourself from saying "because they don't have any competition". Turns out Boeing still hasn't launched any astronauts to the ISS.
@SorinSilaghi Says:
I like this not scripted format a lot. It shows how little you actually know beyond the most basic understanding of the physics involved.
@darkjudge8786 Says:
I try really hard with Thunderf00t but fuck me. Literally a bigger failure than the first one with 2 explosions and worse failures and this clown doesn't even notice? He wasn't listening to the spin and bullshit and just ended the stream without realising how much of a clusterfuck this was. Maybe go back to debunking humidifiers and juice squeezers.
@NorthernChev Says:
LOL. "Here's a chart showing how far behind SpaceX is on Starship goals, versus some comment Musk made saying the timeline was much sooner...". This is the hill you've chosen to die on? This seems to be the crux of your Musk videos lately. Musk missing the goals of his ridiculous off-handed comments. Which, as we all know, there's no other type of comments from Musk other than offhand, but here we are nonetheless, planting our flag on another video pointing out how stupid Musk's timelines and comments are. I almost long for the days of you debating religious idiots on the street.
@StarBinArtist Says:
What a jealous loser 😢😅
@robames1293 Says:
Marvin the Martian (Looney Toons) "an earth shattering Kerboom"
@NZ-fo8tp Says:
No threat to low earth orbit, debris was travelling too slow and low.
@robames1293 Says:
I am watching this days after the event. It's interesting reading the comments of the Mustovites criticising Thunderfoot for producing FACTS, These people probably are Trumpists too and believe whatever their saviours tell them, Feck the facts
@01296501923654 Says:
Congrats to the local endangered wildlife on dodging a potential extinction level event!
@doNaldMusk-h28-hfkslP18 Says:
Wow that’s amazing, soon we’ll be able to send the first man up in space! 😮
@williampennjr.4448 Says:
posting fake news is not free speech.
Must always based his prediction on the assumption that ever goes according to plan. A lot of things didnt go according to plan, like a 2 year pandemic.
@buntaiify Says:
ummm.... "he's a moron" then answered....
@isavedtheuniverse Says:
While this certainly was an improvement on the engine performance/reliability...was it overall an improvement? The first launch was intentionally terminated. This launch just blew up on its own.
@dougniergarth236 Says:
An entertaining show Phil .
Congrats to the SpaceX team!!
Check back in when we know what happened to the launch pad...
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