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@AnAMAteurtraveler Says:
I want to agree with Mike and I do on a ton but I have a few doubts that I want to submit to the comment section. One, without a state wouldn’t cartels and mafias become responsible for security like in old southern Italy and parts of Latin America where the cartels run the show? I mean in El Salvador for example the government took the place of anarchy and the people seem to have responded overwhelmingly positively. Two, I know governments often become corrupt and don’t live up to this principle but in theory isn’t it a positive that governments standardize punishments so people get the same treatment no matter who they know or how much money they have? Again I’m not an idiot, I’ve been arrested (drunk driving) and dealt with the state in several countries. I’m well aware corruption and bureaucracy usually make this not the case in real life but isn’t it a step up from the alternative. Although maybe on the other hand if problems can get worked out more locally and without bureaucracy it runs more smoothly. Idk but I’m curious what the comment section has to say
@1000miles2paradise Says:
On the one hand, I hear Michael talk, and I think “This guy is ridiculous and insane” but on the other, it makes me wish I could talk with him on some things he touched on. Enlightening fellow, whether you agree or disagree with him. I really enjoyed this one, Tom. Definitely a great contrasting conversation.
@eeronat Says:
Malice thinks Bilyeu's entire thinking is infested by Hegelian theory and that he doesn't realize it. That's why Malice gets ticked off by "we."
@timothytendick1550 Says:
"Rules, boundaries and limitations" the dog whisperer's most stated line
@lewisjohnson8297 Says:
This man is crazy. He describe every single hierarchy that is not mitigated through rules. All rules are imposed upon those who would rather behave otherwise. If the hierarchy can enforce the hierarchy, it is "government."
@aaronskoy957 Says:
"You're smarter than someone 6'3" is tall" Haha! Well, I'm 6'4" dad-gum-it that makes me smarter than Albert Weinstein.
@mikeballard8404 Says:
Texas will be not only more free but they will be better off and will start a new country
@Learninghowtodougie Says:
This is how fights start in a bar
@mikeballard8404 Says:
" You're either with us or them ". That is the prison mindset in a nutshell. In prison it's by race.
@RKPT9 Says:
There is only one outcome for a world where differences of huge ideological social norms exist.
There will be conflict and in that state sides will be taken.
That is where Anarchism becomes obsolete as the individual itself.
@markartist8646 Says:
Naive is not the word. That's disgusting and misleading.
It's ignorance.
@mamushibeyene1532 Says:
pilese Hilp Me Menye
@permaculturemom9848 Says:
I like some of the things Malice says but the social darwinism is too much. I'm a teacher and kids learn and surprise you all the time. They are not lost causes - not by a long shot. Two white guys talking about 'helping' inner city kids - who are you doing this for? For them or your egos? Ugh.
@nunobarros915 Says:
"Building expectations, but understanding all possible outocomes."
@arthurarbeid8588 Says:
"Malice", wow. lol. What a terrible last name.
@123lou4444 Says:
This guy is extra sharp......
@gnostic1955 Says:
Yes, we have free will!
@christophermartin1973 Says:
Who's in charge, you or your bodyguard?
Well, if he feels like it, the bodyguard - which is the problem - not having an authority of some sort to appeal to when you are wronged.
We did this for most of human history, all we got is Warlords - I'd love a technological social anarchy system but we just aren't there yet.
@spencerisaacs Says:
Your breakdown was: you know you’re talking to your like minded or new open minded growth mindset people, he has a thing about people using the word we.. lol
@jdez0583 Says:
I can't take grown men who wear a hat backwards seriously.
@oakgnarl5021 Says:
Voting is NOT "just a waste of time", though it of course also is very much that. If political authority is morally invalid, then so is voting. You absolutely SHOULD NOT vote as you have absolutely no right to vote upon any action that you do not have the right to perform unilaterally as an individual, such as whether or whom to "authorize" to rob (tax), cage, or murder peaceful people. Hans Sherrer explains clearly the moral hazard of voting in 1999:
Voting is the most violent act someone can commit in their lifetime.
This little noted anomaly about voting is directly related to the modern conception of the State as an entity deriving its grant of authority to act from the consent of the governed. The aura of legitimacy surrounding the government's actions is enhanced by the perceived role of voting as an expression of the “people's will.” Whether non-threatening or violent, the authority for each and every one of the government's actions is presumed to flow from the consent of the people through the electoral process. School children are told this from their earliest years.
The idea the State derives its power to act from the consent of the people sounds romantic. Few people, however, are aware that by definition the State’s power is for the specific purpose of engaging in acts of violence. No grant of power is necessary for anyone, or any organization to act peacefully. This is no secret among scholars, and sociologist Max Weber's definition of the State is considered one of the most authoritative:
“A state is a human institution that claims the monopoly of the legitimate use of physical force within a given territory. ... The state is considered the sole source of the `right' to use violence." [1]
The legitimizing impact of voting on the government's exercise of power intimately involves voters in the use of that power. Which means that non-voters tend to delegitimize the exercise of a government's power as an expression of the “will of the people.” So if no one voted in an election or only a small percentage of people did, the government couldn't profess to be empowered to act as an agent of the “people's will.” Without the protective cover provided by voters, the government would have no pretense to act except as a law unto itself.
Consequently, the government's actions and the voters who legitimize them are linked together. Thus at a minimum, voters are spiritually involved in every act engaged in by the government. Including all violent acts. This involvement in the government's violence isn't, tempered by the nominal peacefulness of a person’s life apart from voting. By choosing to vote a person integrates the violence engaged in by the government as a part of their life. This is just as true of people that didn't vote for a candidate who supports particular policies they may disagree with, as it is for those that did. It is going through the motion of voting that legitimizes the government to act in their name, not who or what they vote for.
This means that the violence perpetrated by any one person pales in scope or significance when compared to that which is authorized to be taken by the government in the name of those who vote. The combined ghoulish violence of every identifiable serial killer in American history can't match the violence of even one of any number of violent actions taken by the government as the people's representative. A prominent example of this is the economic sanctions imposed on Iraq after the Gulf war in 1991. These sanction prevented Iraq from rebuilding its destroyed sanitation, water, and electric power infrastructure that were specifically targeted by the U. S. military for destruction. Supported and enforced by the U. S., these sanctions are credited by UNICEF and other organizations with contributing to the gruesome deaths of an estimated 3,000 to 5,000 children a month for over 8-1/2 years. [2] All voters share in the government's contribution to the unnecessary deaths of these children caused by disease and a reduced standard of living. So the over half-a-million deaths of innocent children in Iraq in the years after 1991’s Gulf war are on the blood stained hands of every voter in the U.S.
The same dynamic of voter involvement in government atrocities is true of the many hundreds of civilian deaths caused by the bombing of Yugoslavian cities in the spring and summer of 1999 that the United States participated in. This was a small scale recreation of the atomic bombing of the non-military cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945. Hundreds of thousands of innocent women, children and old people were killed from the initial bomb blasts and the long-term effects of radiation exposure. [3] Those bombings had been preceeded by the U.S. military’s killing of many hundreds of thousands of non-combatants during the firebombings of Tokyo, Hamburg, Dresden and Berlin. All of those people were killed in the name of the voters that had elected the Roosevelt administration in 1944 by a landslide. Voting, like a missile fired at an unseen target many miles away, is a long-distance method of cleanly participating in the most horrific violence imaginable.
So declining to vote does much more than cause a statistical entry on the non-voting side of a ledger sheet. It is a positive way for a person to lower their level of moral responsibility for acts of violence engaged in by the government that they would never engage in personally, and that they don’t want to be committed in their name as a voter. Non-voting is a positive way for a person to publicly express the depth of their private belief in respecting the sanctity of life, and that violence is only justified in self-defense.
The social sphere in which most people live is notable for the level of peaceful cooperation that normally prevails in it. The majority of people strive to better their lives by working together with other people in the pursuit of their mutual self-interest. [4] This community spirit of non-violent cooperation supported by non-voting, stands in sharp contrast to the societal violence endorsed by the act of voting,
ENDNOTES
[1] “Politics as a Vocation," Max Weber, in "From Max Weber: Essays in Sociology,” edited by C. Wright Mills, Oxford University Press, NY, 1946, p. 78.
[2] See e.g., “Sanctions of Mass Destruction,” John Mueller and Karl Mueller, Foreign Affairs, May/June, 1999. vol. 78. no. 3, pp. 43-53; and, “U, S. Weapons of Mass Destruction Linked to Deaths of a Half-Million Children,” in “Censored 1999: The News That Didn't Make the News - The Year's Top 25 Censored Stories,” Peter Phillips and Project Censored, Seven Stories Press, NY, 1999, pp. 43-46.
[3] See e.g., “Hiroshima: Why America Dropped the Atomic Bomb,” Ronald Takaki, Little Brown & Company. Boston, 1995; and, “Hiroshima in. America: A Half Century of Denial,” Robert Jay Lifton and Greg Mitchell, Avon, NY, 1996.
[4] See e.g., “The Evolution of Cooperation,” Robert Axelrod, Basic Books, New York, 1984; “Hidden Order: How Adaptation Builds Complexity,” John H. Holland, Perseus Press, 1996; and, “Reputation: Studies in the Voluntary Elicitation of Good Conduct,” edited by Daniel B. Klein, University of Michigan Press, 1997.
@williamstockdale4833 Says:
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@JRoc7SDV Says:
He said very few... I'll leave it at that 😅
@chrisbrooks3569 Says:
Government needs fear of the people
@chrisbrooks3569 Says:
Or hold are government accountable
@NathanTransportLLc Says:
“ if this be treason, let us make the most of it “
- Patrick Henry
@song8777 Says:
Police don't enforce drug laws. There's a meth lab that killed 3 pets and is 15 from a school playground putting out fumes and poison that are ruining people's health and ability to work and function right by me in a "good neighborhood," in a resort town with money. Heroin smoked 3 feet from the playground and foils and crack pipes left all over where they can get in the sand at the playground and "shake 'n bake" bottles left where kids can get a hold of them while at school. Crack pipes, fent, Molly, all made, sold, processed, used right there. I'm all sick at the moment from being forced to breathe all that while in the house with the windows up and doors shut. People on drugs commit most of the crimes. Anarchism means you can't have a religious belief. I've heard people saying they're anarchists, but still religious. You can't be. YOU DO KNOW IT'S THE ROTHSCHILDS WHO PROMOTED ANARCHY AND ALSO THE HIPPIE/FREE LOVE MOVEMENTS AND SOROS WHO'S PROMOTED DRUGS. Tom, you dress like you're 5. It's hard to take seriously, not that you have to be suit or something. LET LISA HAVE CHILDREN. STOP MAKING HER KISS YOUR BUTT!
@justenking4272 Says:
TOO MANY LONG COMMERCIALS!
@jacobburns7766 Says:
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@danivicario Says:
Normally he's super humorístic. That day he was very serious
@thelearster Says:
Save our Republic and Vote for TRUMP.
@earltaylor6071 Says:
The guest is a serious CRITICAL THINKER! He is very analytical! He is a PROBLEM SOLVER ENGINEER!👍🏾
@maryblessing2205 Says:
I don’t believe reality is truth.
@cathys465 Says:
Screwball ideations all!
@johnankrah299 Says:
Anti venom?
@buzinaocara Says:
I respect the fact that at points Malice gets close to start being an annoying stickler for semantic definitions, but he restraints himself and acts reasonable. That is calming.
@zingbangpow Says:
There are 100 places this gentleman can go for all-you-can-eat anarchy. This is flat earth level hooey.
@kotseed Says:
Intense mob intervention has created instability and mistrust in Russia.
@jacobs1563 Says:
Omfg!!!! A governor who can stand for something 😂😂😂😂😂
@MyDudeGuy Says:
Sad they still believe western propaganda and lies about the soviet though.
@ClaudeStrydom Says:
Breaks my heart to know so many people are missing it
Good job onthe discussion.
excellent work
@BOOTBOSS1 Says:
Nobody should completely trust the government but what he's proposing will never work for much the same reason people left to their own devices are capable of some real awful behavior and sometimes the government and the police have to step in
@cbbcbb6803 Says:
You hope.
@ivytown508 Says:
@2:36 Malice doesn't know math - unusual for a Russian educated person. 1 standard deviation lower normal is 34%. Add the 50% above normal to get 84%. So the % below 1 sigma is 16% not one third.
@AnthonyAirman Says:
Corporation liability hr saftey and prevention has ruined the human existence.
@algonzales1809 Says:
Idiotic
@wiggleplayer5529 Says:
ulala
@madhatter734 Says:
Anarchy at scale is a ludicrous idea. It does not work... it has never worked... it never will work. Thank you Mr Malice for wasting everyones time with your nonsensical fantasy.
@PepeLepew-rm9ft Says:
I think he's talking about democracy no representation you represent yourself you and your fellow citizens are the government.
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