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@jeremygardner1225 Says:
academically, it’s interesting that this pattern of genocidal conquest is rare outside of Europe and the US.
I used to think it started in the colonial era, with the banking dynasties and mercantilists getting richer than the monarchies and establishing proto-capitalist incentive structures that were intrinsically unstable and warlike by design, but Caesar’s killing a third of Gaul and enslaving of another third shows the pattern much earlier on. It’s a feature, not a bug, of western civ.
When China would war internally, they’d generally follow with a few hundred years of stability after and they were never expansionist in a major way without Mongol leadership. Even the mongols killed with a certain strategic logic that wasn’t essentially about erasure. A lot was destroyed, especially in Baghdad, but again, the logic was a contrast of extreme terror and mercy. Not cultural erasure and replacement.
I thought maybe it was just the construct of white supremacy and some kind of psychosexual obsession with purity re: recessive genes and narcissistic superiority at a time when military technology was uniquely advanced compared to the rest of the world. But again, that doesn’t hold up because of the examples from before race was explicitly constructed along this weird colorist metric.
Then I thought maybe it’s just the extreme linguistic and geographic/tribal divisions in Europe that created the cultural difference that normalized that pattern. But similar extremity of tribal diversity exists in even rougher geographies in Africa that do have plenty of violence, but not this scale and consistency over time of normalized genocidal tendency.
What variables are left? The tiny bit of Neanderthal dna? That sounds racist as hell to me and I don’t really buy it lol.
Selection for psychopathic leaders through secret societies that encourage ruthlessness? That’s a bit more conspiratorial than I’m comfortable with but maybe?
Something to do with diet and how it affects the mind? There’s that theory about led poisoning in Rome correlating with the psychopathy.
I honestly don’t know why this is such a distinctly European pattern. Plenty of brutality all around the world but this is so unique.
@Southernconservative03 Says:
Bro why not have someone on here that’s speaking truth about the terrorist
@emmillym5384 Says:
He is talking complete mumbo jumbo. The entire conversation is a series of platitudes based on air. What does "equal rights to Israelis " even mean? They don't live in Israel. They don't pay tax in Israel... what "rights" or access "should" they have? Can i get French rights?
@michaelcavella4597 Says:
wow he brought up Chomsky in first 3 mins. I'm moving on. k bye
@Nihm420 Says:
Omar is a propagandist. Destiny destroyed him all 3 times they debated.
@lindontilson471 Says:
It's tough shit, lands have been conquered throughout the centuries. Palestinians don't get to claim anything. I don't like it but this shiz needs to end
@kenjones8083 Says:
In 1942 the Arabs in this area of the world had a leader who joined the leader of Germany to kill all the Jews. This is not about land it is about Muslims wanting a Caliphate. Muslims believe that any land that was part of the caliphate in the past is still muslim land. Is Spain next? From the river to the sea means all Jews dead.
@jaykova8495 Says:
If international law matters at all Israel is in the wrong atm and should be held accountable its that simple everybody is just talking meanwhile people are just being killed in Palestine. Children being SNIPED in the head What is there to think about at this point?????
@terrylovesenegal Says:
Watching this six months after reveals how totally to the point Omar Baddar was unfortunately. Gaza is being erased from the map with so much vileness it is unbearable to watch and know what is happening with the extinction of all Palestinians still alive - how with no food or water and constantly bombed. And now we are not even allowed to cry for the constant slaughter of children. ISR is breaking humanity to its core.
@NisA-hw2wj Says:
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@JohnBozman Says:
This guy is a straight up Islamist-apologist. No blame on Ham*s, the terrorist group that celebrates murder and rap*. Just spend the entire interview attacking the only democracy in the Middle East, surrounded by monarchies, islamist regimes and dictators that murder their own people. And he talks about "gas-lighting". What a complete joke. #Propaganda #PeaceInTheMiddleEast
@YePoozi Says:
Thanks for having him on Tom... subbed! ❤
@BadSantaa Says:
IzsRAEL never wanted peace ever since 1948 and 1967 and so on... That's just facts and history no way around it.... The greed and evilness of taking other people's land and property... I'm thinking that they're God's children over other human beings.... Is disgusting...... A good documentary to watch is israelism and YouTube IDF soldiers breaking the silence.....
@rolotomasi5935 Says:
And then the Palestinian pundit raises climate justice. Probably got the shot and agreed with Mandates while calling for freedom in Palestine. Divide and rule at it's finest folks. Designed for you to lose.
@rolotomasi5935 Says:
As if mansplaning was a concept of how to talk to Palestinians.
@rolotomasi5935 Says:
When you get points for letting the oppressed speak tells you everything wrong with this guy and his followers. This shill is trying to shave narrative and frame it with talking points. He's a 3rd tier intellectual and a dishonest one at that.
@JB-qy5gv Says:
Been watching Tom's content for almost a decade. Was happy Tom had Omar on. Was disappointed though that Tom talked a lot about deconstucting Omar's "base assumptions" but unfortunately he never acknowledged or deconstructed his own base assumptions that exactly mirror official lobby group talking points. Talking points that Omar easily showed could be untangled by just looking at independent human rights reports.
@RockMacDonald23 Says:
Free Palestine forever.
@coopercooper8406 Says:
‘Greater Israel’ is what it’s about. It’s a land grab. There’s a patch on every IDF shoulder.
They also want to erase the Palestinians.
@richardclark8656 Says:
Much appreciation to you Tom for having Omar on your show. This is such a basic moral issue that needs a greater audience in this country. We have been so incredibly propagandized for all of our lives here.
@terilynnnelson572 Says:
It is beyond shameful and appalling to me that in the United States, the truth about Israel is not allowed to be discussed in mainstream media. The only message mainstream media allows is an ignorant, simplistic pro-Israel lie. The truth will come out eventually, but far too late for the tens of thousands of Palestinians who have been viciously massacred by Israel. Frankly, I am not familiar with this host, but his repeated use of the phrase "YOUR FRAME OF REFERENCE" was bizarre and insulting to anyone who knows a little bit about this issue. Mr. Baddar was speaking TRUTH, not OPINION. Jesus dude, please educate yourself!! I know you're youngish and probably busy, but for God's sake, there is so much you could read and watch and observe to educate yourself just a little bit. I feel like you sat down without knowing a single thing! SO insulting that you did NO homework.
@hammerhead2362 Says:
Good discussion. Omar’s evaluation of hezbollahs abilities were vastly proven wrong but to be fair to him that was surprising for most people. Even many zios.
@jorge-7121 Says:
Tom is such a moron
@AllsWell77 Says:
But how would shooting, raping, beheading, setting fire make your case?
@saratonnan Says:
This is the first time I've heard a podcast present the Palestinian perspective. So many in the west don't know the history & belive that Hamas is just a terrorist group that attacked Israel unprovoked. Decades of living in an open air prison is plenty of provocation.
@ahmedzaki9434 Says:
Only podcast who really shows the truth
@debbiemitchell9106 Says:
I love your advice to listen and find off-ramps…. To search for solutions by searching for the fundamental issues under the voices. When different perspectives speak in terms to attract a loud following, frequently the core issues get so buried in “marketing verbiage” or ideology friendly speech rather than core issues, discussion of resolution becomes win lose instead of win-win reconciliation.
@Holy_HelixT Says:
It was a great conversation. But when Tom talks about Mandela being a hero of his and it still puts him on the fence on the israel/palestine issue. That's a big red flag in my book.
@lq9713 Says:
1:41:55 Exactly.
@davidcoomber4050 Says:
Why don’t Israel and the rest of the countries in the Middle East sort out their own problems that have gone on for two thousand years all over a piece of dirt that nobody in their right mind would want to live in
@frankrea6351 Says:
Fantastic information -- Thanks Omar Baddar and Tom
@LenaMayDean Says:
I hope those who’ve been brainwashed for so long to justify these wars can still actually understand the truth
@SubangiIgor Says:
:58 - the kind of Palestinian state Israel is offering is no different from what USA offered to native First Nation people and by the apartheid South Africa to the Zulu people - it has a terminology called Bantustan. If you read these other two history there are striking similarities. After Lakota upraising USA divided the land into many small disconnected pieces called Indian reserves isolating Lakotas into small bands of few families. These families have to traverse USA state lands and roads to reach other Indian reserves if they have to go meet their extended families. Similar was done to Zulus in South Africa in orange free state that they made smaller tiny semi autonomous states for zulus and are surrounded by the apartheid South Africa which is controlled by Europeans. This plan completely limits what these people can do and they be under totalitarian control of the super state.
Western Europeans have never been genuine when it comes to making peace.
@jeromeschwartz4778 Says:
Again , who fired first ??? , I'm not siding withe the Palestinians ... I have a problem with them pointing their fingers at Israel , and not at their own corrupted leaders , and yes it is a Religious war .. and a fight for land .. Innocent people are killed on both sides of this war .. Give up the hostages from Israel .. and you could change my mind .. And what did Putin have to say to Iran's Leaders about 3 weeks ago ??? Never will I go by people that have said DEATH TO AMERICANS .. Which Israel never has said that .. This old man didn't forget what they have been saying for the last 20 years ...
@NidoZozo Says:
just discovered the channel Great rage of guests !
@Quranic-f5z Says:
happy to see omar baddar in your podcast tom
@royshar1289 Says:
He literally doesn’t know shit. Every single argument he had to present was based on made up assumptions. Tom this is ridiculous
@royshar1289 Says:
Such an ignorant guy and so many dumb people in the comments.
There is no occupation in Gaza since 2006.
Over 70% of Palestinians support what Hamas did in October 7th.
Israel is still providing of clean water and electricity to Gaza.
The Palestinians agenda was never two states solution. When Israel established it was after a war they started on Israel.
Go learn history.
@royshar1289 Says:
Such and idiot. So many wrong assumptions. Tom this is a joke. I don’t think you would interview someone that attacks the British military during WW2. Israel is fighting for their life against barbarism.
@meiravperry42 Says:
What a gross lie. I hope you sleep well with your lies.
@ItsLin-ye4cn Says:
Insightful
@compulsivexplorer Says:
Some bio on Omar in the description would be appreciated.
@fue_ma Says:
Hey Tom I have been watching most of your interviews for a while now and I admire the intelligence, the depth and moral direction you always portray. This is an overdue episode. I am still in the first few minutes but I had to drop this comment, hoping you actually read comments. I am Lebanese, and I have been away from your podcast for a couple of months as I was kind of disappointed that you kept bringing themes away from what is happening in this part of the world, as it does represent a reflection, a very very scary one, on where humanity is going. It is not ai, it is not the economy, it is not lack of resources that will lead to humanity destruction; it is in fact the normalisation of atrocious cruelties, the abomination of actual human values. The "probable" (need to keep space for a tiny light of hope) future of humanity terrfies me.
I will watch this episode and then might share my opinion❤
@assefashgehrmai103 Says:
You sound so naive, the Germans say “Schlaumeier “
@2GsCanRapTV Says:
FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸
WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT A TWO STATE SOLUTION?! iSRAEL STOLE THE PALESTINIANS LAND!!!
EVEN THE OTHER JEWS AROUND THE WORLD DONT AGREE WITH iSRAEL
iSRAEL IS A CANCER
@mariabart5827 Says:
How do you propose to end the war and peace in Middle East.
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