Should We Legislate Morality or Religion? #Shorts

Should We Legislate Morality or Religion? #Shorts

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@oddoutdoors Says:
"Congress shall pass no law respecting any institution of religion." That's very specifically saying that religion can not be a basis for law. If you were to act morally according to the Bible you would be a monster. This is why we don't base laws on religions.
@davidevett724 Says:
Something else that should be recognized about how the government is fulfilling prophesy in how they see the wrong as right and the right as being wrong. Welcome to the last days before Christ return, repent and be baptized and prepare the way for the time is at hand.
@outdoorsman426 Says:
Yet it was government and church officials that helped to ban cannabis. Something that was here since the beginning, was legal for thousands of years and God clearly stated was good for food. Genesis 1:29, Genesis 9:3, Romans 14:3 1 Timothy 4:1-5 clearly talks about the falling away, false doctrines of demons, people forbidding others to marry and commanding to abstain from foods that God has said was good, states not to prohibit something that God said was good. (Prohibition) like they tried with alcohol. 1 Timothy 4:4-5 clearly states nothing is to be refused if it is received with Thanksgiving for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. I am sick and tired of peoples legalisms just like the Pharisees did and Jesus Christ rebuked them repeatedly.
@minnesotamonk Says:
Jesus was offered dominion over all the powers and principalities of this world and he rejected that offer to Satan's face. The Christian moral code does not exist to be enforced or imposed upon the world by means of worldly power. The Christian moral code exists for CHRISTIANS that they may bear compelling witness to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Those who believe we should impose the Christian moral code or "Biblical Values" upon the world are merely bowing down to Satan...
@HerbieDOTnet Says:
But your religious view is for sure not mine. So keep religion for yourself. Mind the First Amendment.
@jasong9774 Says:
Those are all very good points I agree with 100%. On a related note, church leaders and commenters need to consider the 9th commandment when strawman'ing or otherwise twisting words when someone isn't saying the correct terms, but is trying to convey their concerns over two important issues to classic, constitutional conservatives and our founders. (which was debated rigorously) a. Where do you draw the line? b. Law is by definition, a code of morality. However, it is by man so should not be used as our law. God's law is what we focus on. Too many times, often well meaning Christians teach the law of man as the same or even higher level than God's law. When law then allows for something, many naturally argue it is moral. (edited to add the following clarification) Christians should teach the law of God which includes submitting to authorities and law where it does not conflict with God's commandments. God's law is his heart and comes from it and a believer will judge angels, so should be able to divorce their pettiness and pride and carefully consider their judgement. When this is taught and modeled, the flock will naturally seek God before blindly accepting man's law. This also thus forbids the petty attacks like calling others that have a different reading as "wolves in sheep's clothing" before even trying to engage in a debate. Let all be judged by God. When this topic is brought up, in my experience at least, fire from the hip responses flair almost as bad as the tempers. Very few sober minded, cool heads prevail. (that does not mean the over self-confident, stoic mask and cherry picked arguments plus ad hominem attacks)
@beefsupreme4671 Says:
Well said
@jjevans1693 Says:
FRANK IS A FOOL WE DON'T NEED YOUR SKY DADDY TO TELL US RIGHT FROM WRONG.
@annemorency3317 Says:
Well stated Dr.T 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👌🏾👍🏾🫶🏾
@vendingdudes Says:
This is exactly right. How so many people get it wrong is beyond me.
@willhunting8733 Says:
All laws legislate morality…I don’t know what rock in the us this guy lives under, but I’ve watched laws be drawn up to oppress the poor to the benefit of the wealthy and elected leaders many times. I’m a Christian, but suggesting that gov’s legislate morally is a gross misrepresentation of the workings of society. Stand up for righteousness’s sake rather than pretending everything is peachy!
@GreatBehoover Says:
I remember John Kerry saying "I will not legislate morality" I was like...🤔🤔🤔🤔😳😳😳😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Name one law that ISN'T due to morality!🤣🤣🤣
@ace_of_spades4801 Says:
I don't exactly agree with separation of church but I do think this saying applies here against frank: "Lawful doesn't mean moral"
@brianandersen1629 Says:
This time, Frank has gone off the deep end. For those of you who want to deny the separation's existence in the Constitution, I want you to consider the level of education you have in law. You don't get to say it isn't there because you don't want it to be. This is just like slavery in the bible. Christians want to twist it and does something it isn't. Save your comments and responses to this. I've heard a gamut of lousy excuses. The same type of lousy excuses are being provided for the denial of separation of church and state in our constitution. Lawyers have cases on this premise throughout the entire history of the United States.
@davidlenett8808 Says:
So when does Frank send homosexuals to a penal colony, or, if he follows his God's law, when does he make it a capital offense. Also, will we be bringing back slavery?
@terryaucoin4708 Says:
I agree! Lets make a religion illegal to teach until its proven.
@HonorKnight Says:
At this point Christian Churches should rule the state. Especially California. Tired of seeing these Gays put rainbows on crosses and Flags. Tired of them walking around all Willy nilly.. we need structure and discipline. Law and order. Look at SF.. it’s ridiculous.
@robertjordinelli3041 Says:
You're trying to push your religion on everyone.
@justingary5322 Says:
Exactly Atheists, iconoclasts and pagan people always lying about what the USA Constitution says in defense of being seen as victims it's hypocritical. AMEN 🙏❤️👊. We're not setting up a theocratic nation just moral integrity system in human hearts and minds from who we believe is God Almighty. Again many Atheists are taking Scriptures out of context to fit their own godless agenda against Christianity and theism. God bless brothers Frank Turek and Cross Examined ministry. I used to be an atheist and agnostic but they're positions are both assumptions about reality made without any evidence just emotional and strawman arguments against Christianity and theism. Creation and design requires a Creator we call God. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a 23 year old teacher's assistant and college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " On The Origin of Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
@dalex60 Says:
As immoral as most Christians are, why bother? If all it takes is accepting Jesus as god to be saved, then morals / morality are non-issues! Christianity is a garbage religion!!!
@jamesw4250 Says:
Shouldn't legislate either morality or religion. Yet this is what Christians are attempting to do in many states. Red states.
@MrGordonbrett Says:
Every *honest* person is trying to do that. Hard left right now isn’t trying to legislate their morality, they care about power and power alone. They would have their enemy jailed for the thing they do day to day
@tunacan6166 Says:
The Seven Tenants of the Satanic Temple are more ethical than anything in the bible.
@itsJPhere Says:
What if the things you want to legislate lead to more suffering and death? Abortion is one example. You want to ban abortion, and that leads to women suffering and dying.
@prismaticlightpods6698 Says:
The following of Jesus is not a religion, as it is faith that draws you closer to Jesus. Religion is not faith-based as faith requires love.
@stephenkaake7016 Says:
its legal to kill me, no one cares
@chrisminblkdiamond Says:
If mankind was inherently good. There would not be any laws to coerce him to not commit evil acts.
@noneyabidness9644 Says:
If you don't legislate your morality, another will legislate theirs. That's how it works.
@55Quirll Says:
You can't legislate mortality Frank, it was tried against alcohol and it failed. Leave morality to the individual.
@somerandom3247 Says:
ill pass on christian morality thanks. Slavery, stoning people to death, murdering entire towns, no thanks....
@katamas832 Says:
But the morality you are trying to legislate is based on your religious beliefs, not in any concrete principles and well thought out moral systems. Just "God says it in the Bible so it is moral/immoral"
@ApaX1981 Says:
No frank. We reason to why we ought to do stuff. We think about it. Unlike you.
@maryblushes7189 Says:
Exactly!
@derekardito2032 Says:
Legislate religion out of existence and you will end up with morality, Iceland, Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Japan are proof that no religion promotes morality, the most Christian country in the modern world, the USA is the immoral nation in the modern world, societies decide what and what is not moral, not immoral religions.
@justingary5322 Says:
AMEN 🙏❤️👊. We're not setting up a theocratic nation just moral integrity system in human hearts and minds from who we believe is God Almighty. Again many Atheists are taking Scriptures out of context to fit their own godless agenda against Christianity and theism. God bless brothers Frank Turek and Cross Examined ministry. I used to be an atheist and agnostic but they're positions are both assumptions about reality made without any evidence just emotional and strawman arguments against Christianity and theism. Creation and design requires a Creator we call God. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a 23 year old teacher's assistant and college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " On The Origin of Species" and I'm not convinced of macro Evolutionary biology whereas I accept micro Evolution like speciation and adaptation but not macro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
@confusingdot Says:
As someone who holds a more libertarian view, there's a part of me that's legislating a baseline of morality, but the rest is set to allow for people to discover that morality on their own. I don't think the US government should be legislating all morality but should be giving the freedom and liberty to search for it.
@TheContrarian32 Says:
“The separation of church and state isn’t in the constitution “ I see Turek reads the constitution like he reads the Bible 👍🏻
@rockhead1731 Says:
Trying to legislate morality based on a Christian God is precisely why we have separation of church and state Just as you Christians wouldn't want to have your morality legislated by a Muslim extremist I have no desire to have my morality legislated by you Christians. As an expat who has lived in Muslim countries that have Sharia law, there were times that I was truly in fear for my life for just being a non-muslim yet that's exactly what you're trying to do to America
@toddmiller7876 Says:
Whose morality. Treating others, and loving others is easy. If you know you are fallen as well. If you pick and choose, that's the problem.
@matthewscott3727 Says:
Dr. Turek you have helped me keep my faith and keep it strong! Also because of your willingness to teach, I have been able to plan many powerful seeds. Thank you Dr. Turek! I am very appreciative for your heart to love and to teach truth!
@gi169 Says:
Thanks CE👍👍👍
@jamesbarringer2737 Says:
“The laws of Men do not make for God’s righteousness.” Sure, be involved in politics, but I can’t think of anything where the contribution of a typical individual is more meaningless. You can have a profound impact on your family, in your community, in your company or on your job. But unless politics is your job, involvement about national level politics is worrying and spending your time on something that in plain reality you’re simply wasting your time on. If you are going to spend your time in this way, it makes more sense to focus on the Gospel than politics. Even if laws work in changing behavior, which I don’t concede they do in a positive way, you’ve addressed a symptom and not the cause. The Gospel addresses the true cause, and is the true cure.
@Ser_Jerry Says:
Fun fact - the separation of church and state is to protect the chuch from the state, not the other way around. Many other religions have been granted similar rights. Everyone has a worldview and everyone has a right to advocate their worldview.
@Bomtombadi1 Says:
Lol separating church and state means you don’t get to impose your religious beliefs on policies. What a snake in the grass
@electricspark5271 Says:
Atheists: rrrreeeeeee
@anguschiggins2161 Says:
Except, that we don't want Christian morals Frank which is exactly what you want based on the voices in your head. Not a fan of murder, genocide, slavery like in the Bible. Also not a fan of you picking and choosing what you deem moral from the Bible. Where is your efforts to legislate the banning of eating shellfish? Fishing industry might have something to say about that. Oh but let's target the LGBTQ community - it says so in the Bible. We will not be bullied by Christians - period.
@elbertsorrell8394 Says:
AMEN!
@NewCreationInChrist896 Says:
Morality yes because murder, theft, a liar, and all the other sins aren’t subjective. Don’t sear your conscience. Romans 2:15 “Which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;”
@Gek1177 Says:
We can't allow the freedom of individuals to be strangled by religious beliefs. We have to make moral laws that emphasize freedom and liberty rather than laws which reflect the beliefs of one religion.
@johnperry-nx3gl Says:
The separation of church and state IS in the Constitution. Read the First Amendment and apply a little logic and common sense to it.

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