If God created the first cell and it was perfect, at what point did viruses and decay enter the world? That's the question Dr. Stephen C. Meyer of The Discovery Institute tackles in this video. Be sure to check it out, and then watch the rest of this fascinating episode of the HOPE One Live Show!
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@1495terry Says:
Earth & all the Universe were created 13.8 billion years ago. (A BIG BANG FROM NOTHING) The six days of creation in Genesis are six ages, or periods of time. In the second chapter of Gensis, God had finished all creation; nothing has been created since. (That's right, God doesn't create babies with birth defects; they are begotten from a polluted gene pool.) The Earth had been going through catastrophic changes for millions of years, then God "PLANTED" a Garden in Eden; other places called Paradise. Being planted, not created, and brought from outside the Universe. God put Adam and his wife in the Garden to dress it. The Tree of Life was in the midst of the Garden, therefore, there was never a night in the garden. (In Him is no darkness at all.) Billions of years went by outside the Garden; earthquakes, volcanos, continental plates colliding, animal species becoming extinct; but in the Garden it was still "ONE DAY". If we realize that the Garden was brought and planted on earth, a perfect environment for Adam, then all the fuss about dates and age of the Earth go away. Modern day viruses, hurricanes, tornados, cancer, any other plague you can think of are due to the heritage of SIN which our earthly father Adam left us; God does do them. (Rom. 5:12) This is the DAY of grace, not wrath; (Eph. 3:1-2) God is good all the time and is not willing that a single person should perish. God and Adam have been reconciled by the Blood of his Son. (2 Cor. 5:19-21) All who "believe God are saved.
@jadedrac0 Says:
Viruses are incredibly simple compared to a cell. Scientists today can create them from scratch unlike a cell. Makes me think that possibly they might of been created my a a advanced preflood civilization led by the rebel angels to do so. Viruses also are not truly alive they are simply a rna code encapsulated with a delivery mechanism to deliver that blueprint to a living cells printing system. Think of the mrna covid vaccine. This is man made system to deliver a code to your cells to produce only the spike protein of the virus. They could have the system make the full blown covid 19 virus from scratch if they wanted. Scientist today have in fact created viruses from scratch however they can not create true life from scratch a cell. It’s all to possible the first viruses were created by man.
@oldedwardian1778 Says:
The GOD GEEKS ARE DESPERATE.
This is just ONE comment from “LIES IN GENESIS”.
For example, 100 years ago a cell was promoted as being nothing more than a blob of protoplasm, implying that it wouldn’t be difficult for it to arise by chance. This proved to be wrong; cells are incredibly complex structures.
First of all they make a statement THAT IS 100 years old, science KNOWS THAT CELL ARE COMPLEX AND HAS KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME.
But admitting this does not put LIES IN GEN in a good light.
The god goons just cannot tell THE TRUTH, no matter how OBVIOUS THE TRUTH IS.
@AtamMardes Says:
Abiogenesis doesn't need God bc the evil COVID19, Ebola, cholera, diphtheria, etc., are RNA/DNA based & can't be God's creation or naturally modified versions of it due to imperfections bc by definition God is neither evil nor imperfect. So, nature by itself can create living RNA/DNA from non-life.
@steveprofiler Says:
Would it be better to press a RED button to blow the whole world so no life can suffer anymore?
@miningquest2006 Says:
Bruh.
Your assuming there's an objective "perfection" first off, with no empirical evidence to support this irrational claim. Second off. Viruses. Your assuming Viruses are morally "evil" and that nature tends to follow moral "goodness".
To be honest, you also haven't proved the existence of an Objective Morality. And considering it probably doesn't exist, why would Nature tends to favour YOUR subjective morality? Sounds very self-righteous.
To be completely honest. Nature dosent follow a "moral code". All life has been shown to care about instinctively is preserving it's own existence and the existence of its genetic code (offspring). Viruses do this. Viruses don't know or care that they are destroying you. They just do the job because it's in their nature to spread.
Also, you are aware that Viruses probably existed BEFORE our Last Universal Common Ancestor, right? You also probably know that the Last Universal Common Ancestor wasn't THE first ever cell, right? RIGHT?
@mickqQ Says:
Perfection is a subjective term.
One persons idea of perfect , is another’s trash heap
@Paulthored Says:
Sin corruption of Evolution.
Or something like that.
@Punch-Counterpunch Says:
Still didnt really answered the question as to where viruses came from
@ChildOfMercy Says:
Just had a thought, if we’re basically self autonomous ai that God created and we rebelled wouldn’t the self autonomous ai we’re trying to create rebel as well, and one of the ways we would try to shut the ai down would be to send viruses to their software and hardware if necessary
@tedoldham7703 Says:
Virus's EVOLVED, just like every other living thing on the planet.
Hard to believe grown adults are still gullible enough to buy this BS
@dlaz90 Says:
Unfounded assertions. Typical....
@sick_ibg712 Says:
Why would an all powerful and all knowing and all loving God create natural disasters, droughts/famine, birth defects, diseases etc. On top of that he doesn't even communicate with his creation but we better be obedient so we can be worthy of his love.
@savedbymylovegodthelordjes8394 Says:
praise the only true living LORD and GOD bless you all glory be to the HOLY TRINITY forever and ever amen 💖✝✝✝...
@DesmondNathan Says:
God created everything in perfection.
Humanity's deceiving minds created everything that's harming us and our environment.
@theoskeptomai2535 Says:
This channel is so DESPARATE to find evidence for a god that is not a reality. If any god were to be real, it would be observable. Simply state you believe in a god despite there not bring any credible evidence for its existence. I could at least respect that Frank. But this constant "cherry picking" of misinterpreted biological facts is so desperate.
@hwd7 Says:
UAA, UAG and UGA, is this information? You're driving down the road and see a red octagon🛑. Is this information? What do you do? Just like the RF1 molecules that read your DNA, when they read the chemical markers UAA, UAG and UGA, they 🛑 translating the coded information.
This is semiotic information just like the 🛑 sign has semiotic meaning as an agreed message by an intelligent non-physical mind, so too the stop codons in our DNA convey information programmed by an Intelligent Mind and contains the five levels of information.
The first level, statistics, tells us the STOP sign is one word and has four letters.
The second level, syntax, requires the information to fall within the rules of grammar such as correct spelling, word and sentence usage. The word STOP is spelled correctly.
The third level, semantics, provides meaning and implications. The STOP sign means that when we walk or drive and approach the sign we are to stop moving, look for traffic and proceed when it is safe.
The fourth level, pragmatics, is the application of the coded message. It is not enough to simply recognize the word STOP and understand what it means; we must actually stop when we approach the sign.
The fifth level, apobetics, is the overall purpose of the message. The STOP signs are placed by our local government to provide safety and traffic control.
The code in DNA completely conforms to all five of these levels of information.
@bayesngays9341 Says:
Erm - photosynthesis requires the existence of bacteria. Chloroplasts arise from symbiosis with them. So these must have existed before humans.
@stephenkaake7016 Says:
most viruses cannot harm humans
@edgarmorales4476 Says:
You must understand that human beings have created their own viruses! Every virus is a destructive living consciousness impulse made visible. It targets what the impulse of destructive consciousness targeted at the moment the virus took on form.
Jesus was very clear about this aspect of existence when he was on earth. The Jews had the rigid tradition of washing cups before drinking from them. Jesus told them explicitly that they should not be worried about what went into their mouths. They should be concerned about what came out of their minds and hearts - then out through their mouths. At that time - science had not discovered the presence of viruses but it was agreed that disease came from eating and drinking from dirty utensils. But Jesus knew that the disease had originally come out of the minds and hearts of savagely angry people. Thereafter - it was propagated by the division of the cells but it carried within itself - forever - the instinct and consciousness which initially brought it into being.
AIDS has been no accident. It has emerged from the consciousness forces of self-indulgence and destructive emotional reactions between sexual partners. Submerged hatred and anger can drive people into a sexual act - leaving a residue of sickness behind it in mind - emotions and body.
Because emotional attunement has not always motivated the sexual act between men and women - they have known severe disappointment and lack of release and fulfilment. When this happens - the male sexual energy dwindles. It has to be rekindled by images of sexual perversions.
As a result - pornography has become "big business" in some countries. It panders to the body instincts alone. Out of pornography have come a lack of respect for women - and a mechanical non-emotional sexual act - together with rapidly increasing rape and child sexual abuse. People giving way to these abominable acts of depraved cruelty will surely reap the consequences.
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@Steven-ki9sk Says:
See how Stephen dodged the last question. Listen to his words carefully. He knows that the idea that bacteria and viruses suddenly started attacking humans and other animals for the first time when humans sinned, runs counter to the fossil evidence.
@Meemineuvos Says:
Viruses don't exist.
@frankcardano4142 Says:
“Making repeated affirmations to your subconscious mind is the only known method of developing the emotion of faith voluntarily”
Napoleon Hill
Think and grow rich
P46
Can anyone answer whether Napoleon Hill’s “Secret” in the book is God?
@Kaymen1980 Says:
What is a perfect cell?
@CDGMR1 Says:
Great video!!
@theTavis01 Says:
"It's like a computer" uh...yeah... AND COMPUTERS EVOLVED YOU HERETIC
@fluffysheap Says:
This isn't much of an explanation.
"Was the first cell perfect? Why are there viruses?"
"DNA is complicated!"
The relationship between viruses and cells is similar to the relationship between parasites and their prey, especially parasites that kill their prey instead of just mooching off them. Like ant zombie brain fungus, or fairy flies (which are actually wasps). Whatever your understanding of parasites is, it's the same for viruses.
Only young-Earth creationists would believe the first cell was perfect. These weird hybrid young Earth / evolution ideas are so weird to me. Either believe the science and take the creation story as myth, or believe the Bible and own your science denial!
In truth, the first cell probably was a long way from perfect, in fact it likely would have barely functioned. Cells have had four billion years to improve their functioning since then.
@evangelistpatrik Says:
As a computer engineer I approve of this message 😉
@briendoyle4680 Says:
However,
.. any debate on this is useless, since a god
needs to be proven - First.
@briendoyle4680 Says:
IF..?... Hhaha Where is this hahha First cell - if it was soooo Perfect!!!? hahaha
@seeqr9 Says:
Viruses aren’t inherently “bad”
@Bomtombadi1 Says:
Viruses aren’t cells, children
@Matthew24.4 Says:
There are no viruses/germs, only bacteria.
No virus in history has ever been isolated so there is no evidence they exist and are the cause of illness or disease, scientifically.
Germ theory is not based on science.
Terrain theory is based on science.
It’s ALL about the terrain ie the persons immune system and overall health and well-being.
In saying that, toxins surround us and can make us ill.
Saying viruses exist is like an ID proponent saying we live in a simulation ie it’s possible but there is no scientific evidence to support the theory/claim.
@georgemenjivar3451 Says:
Very dope ✊🏽🔥
@Ed-ts4bj Says:
Before you can have a living cell you must have the DNA molecule, a living cell to process the information, and an operating system.
Without fossil evidence of all three separate systems evolving into a single unit, their bogus conjectures are a colossal waste of time.
@IAMhassentyou-h5w Says:
Sin contaminated everything
@samuelrodriguez9199 Says:
Glad to see some creationist scientists on here. I think these are some of the best videos you've posted brother. Good job.
@avafury4584 Says:
Love hearing the creationists! Good job CE ❤️
@Birdlab Says:
Where is virology discussed in the Bible? Asking for a friend.
@notshsjose Says:
Can you talk about the apocalypse of adam?
@shaunvanwyk4775 Says:
What torture it must be to convince people of Our father in heaven's existence. Many choose not to except the lord of hosts..this decision isn't based on what they know or the lack of evidence. Jesus could appear on a stage and many would deny him. This channel does a great job however i would resent it to be in your seats.
@azophi Says:
Wow it’s almost like there are lots of patterns of mathematics in nature because nature tends to follow patterns
@cisuminocisumino3250 Says:
The scriptures tell us that God created a perfect man and a perfect world. Everything that was made was designed for good, but due to the fall, everything became corrupt. All of creation including Viruses were affected by the fall. But believe it or not, viruses are not just harmful pathogens, they are useful to nature.
“If all viruses suddenly disappeared, the world would be a wonderful place for about a day and a half, and then we’d all die – that’s the bottom line,” Tony Goldberg, epidemiologist.
@LRM5195 Says:
The nut cases who wrote the books of the Bible had no concept of what a cell even was. Science and historic evidence has proven the Bible wrong time and time again yet the religious have to pull out the “God doesn’t show or give us information that we can’t handle yet” card. It’s embarrassing and a joke.
I’m not going to be watching this video (I’ve seen dozens of Frank’s videos and debates).
My guess, however, upon seeing the title question, ultimately the fall of man will be blamed. Just a guess.
@cristilaye5912 Says:
Anyone have a logical answer for the following question?
Why did God have Adam name the animals?
At the time had Adam name the animals,he (god) had no plans to create anyone but Adam. So why name anything ? We name things in order to communicate WITH OTHERS. There were no others! Would Adam say to a bear,hey bear I'm going to the river to see a duck. Who named the fish? Adam?
God saw that Adam was alone AFTER naming animals. Then eve came along.
Additionally,the Bible says nothing g about God redesigning Adam to be able to impregnate eve. Before the idea to create eve,was Adam sexually able? That wouldn't make sense because God never intended anyone but Adam. Oh,Adam is alone,let me make eve. Some of that has to be wrong or,atleast "off".
You don't name anything g or need to name anything g without others to communicate with. So he named the animals.... did he write down the names? That's alot of names to remember,unless of course there was a massive diversification of just a few animals in 5he beginning.
Anyone? Thoughts?
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