Raspberry Pi OS (Legacy) is a new version of the operating system for users who require the Picamera Python library, the Raspicam apps, or the OMX media player. This video demonstrates camera access in Pi OS (Legacy), as well as the new option to use the legacy camera interface and Raspicam apps in Bullseye.
My previous 'Raspberry Pi OS Bullseye Update' video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kr_yS9OhLM
My previous video on 'Raspberry Pi Time Lapse Photography' is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fer4SssH4FE
The news article from Raspberry Pi announcing the developments covered in this videos is here: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/new-old-functionality-with-raspberry-pi-os-legacy/
Raspberry Pi OS can be downloaded from: https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/operating-systems/
More videos on SBCs and wider computing and related topics can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/explainingcomputers
You may also like my ExplainingTheFuture channel at: http://www.youtube.com/explainingthefuture
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:05 Bullseye Legacy Camera Support
05:57 Raspberry Pi OS (Legacy)
11:37 OS Expectations
#RaspberryPi #Legacy #Picamera #ExplainingComputers
Really useful explanation. I am only now encountering this problem in 2024.
@colinchandler1500 Says:
Yes, would've been nice to know this before i was up till 2.30 a.m. trying to get a camera to work on bullseye. Thanks Raspberry Gods. 😐
@TEAST23 Says:
I think it should be made clear that this ONLY WORKS ON 32 BIT LEGACY OS versions. 64 bit legacy does not work.
@gelfling6 Says:
Chris, just got the v2.1 camera and latest version (23-02-23) seems like a whole new ballgame. just took its first picture with the libcamera-jpeg command. ouch! new commands to learn (and putting the old v1.2 camera in the box.) thanks for at least including the command for libcamera-jpeg, just a matterof learning the new interface.
@Griffon37 Says:
Chris, can I ask where your red Pi base comes from as it looks like a great solution for desk access and stability
@Michael-pw1gc Says:
I do have problems with the bullseye os. My camera don't get recognised and if I try to youse libcam-hello my os give me a error massage of something, that is documented but the fix don't work
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR Says:
So maybe 64bit OS is the way forward for the Raspberry Pi SBC.
@jensschroder8214 Says:
Aggravating. If I want to use the camera with python, can't I use the current Bullseye operating system?
I can only use the older 32 bit Buster version?
@briankleinschmidt3664 Says:
Floor to ceiling. I feel you're in a pinch, but you're not missing any meals. - not on purpose. Much love, brother.
@betafoofoo270 Says:
Chris, thanks very much you are a godsend. I don't really understand coding very well and I have been having problems running my camera on a open source application/project (PySpectroscope by Les' Lab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_goVwwxKE4). I think you have just explained how to resolve the issues I'm having with my camera - your tutorials are really clear and professional, thanks again.
@cjlowe1650 Says:
Does anyone know how long Pi foundation will support the Legacy version? Before we are force to re-write all our code????
@sanjayrevanna8903 Says:
iam currently running the raspberry pi OS and have been coding for the self driving project and now I have a problem with the camera not being working with the current OS and many have insisted to install the legacy OS , but if I need to install the legacy os will the existing work which I have done be erased ?
@007Pranav7 Says:
I am having an issue ,i.e. the pictures the camera is clicking are blurry. Can you give any solution to that . We are using Buster OS(Raspberry Pi OS(Legacy). We are using 8MP ptz arducam camera.
@bra1nsen Says:
Cannot current show desktop after legacy activation BULLSHIT
@kurtgreter9841 Says:
Very good work, as usual. So far everything is going very well, only the command raspistill -t 0 shows no image. But would be important to focus. Do you have a solution for this? Thanks!
@kane100574 Says:
Thank you! this helped my confusion!
@donaloflynn Says:
They say that the old way of handling cameras is deprecated, but they don't explain why. It seems to work just fine, so why was an alternative method developed instead of just new iterations of the existing one?
@horusfalcon Says:
I hear what you're saying about support for one's favorite OS: I'm one of those who makes a small payment each month to support continued development of my favorite Linux distribution. It's the least we can do, and really does help bring greater quality of development, better diversity of available software, and other benefits to the distro.
Perhaps, one day, I might move to the Raspberry Pi, but for now I'll stick with the big iron. It is nice to see just how capable a Raspberry Pi 4 is in this video.
@quarteratom Says:
A noob will not want to use Buster. Buster support will end sometime, Bullseye has better support, e.g. has Chromium hardware acceleration, Bullseye is the version people will normally use. It's important to emphasize that Bullseye is the real version, so those noobs themselves don't install Buster.
If I want to use the camera, I know so much about the Raspberry Pi that if I want to use the old Python libraries I'll use Buster, and for command line captures, a different, but still simple command doesn't bother me.
Hiding Buster behind a click in the Imager, or using a different command for captures in Bullseye is not a problem. But the developers should get on developing a new Python library soon, because running Buster or unsupported libraries in Bullseye is not a long-term solution.
Supporting old OS versions is also important, because not everyone will want to upgrade. Real linux OSes also support old LTS versions for like 5 years.
@adityapandey7798 Says:
While i agree with your assessment of free OS and the problems supporting them. I do not think it applies to RaPi. For one: they borrowed the OS, and the groups who create the core programmes are the ones doing most of the work.
Second: the RaPi is a piece of Hardware which the company charges money for, not to sound rude to the people who work there but it is their responsibility to create patches to fit the hardware they are selling. And the old lesson of ' do not try to fix something that isn't broken' applies to all the updaters here.
Another informative video nevertheless.
@alittlepeaceandkarma Says:
Why don't the BBC take a leaf out of the OS book. I resent paying for a license.
@bryngerard4334 Says:
Your LED lights have a noisy driver. I just did an install of cameras in a refurbed building that has similar problem lights. This will be putting noise into everything you use in your studio. It can be solved by shielding the drivers or replacing the lights with ones that are interference free. Not sure that I agree with you about Windows being free. Microsoft always get their cut and we pay in the price of the machine or in an enterprise, through licensing. They also stand in the way of document standards becoming a reality because they continue to muddy the waters with the dominance of Office file formats etc.
I agree that people need to suuport any Linux Distros they use but the Pi makes its money selling hardware. They wouldn't have anywhere near the sales without an OS. Armbian is a decent distro but they need support from the SBC manufacturers to ensure its viability. Many Opensource projects like Apache etc. get funding from various significant players. So I am all for the manufacturers funding Linux distros and enterprises having a version to buy that includes support. Some already offer this.
@ratlinuxgamer2855 Says:
Thanks!
@DiyEcoProjects Says:
Hi Chris, Got my first Raspberry Pi 4 B+ Today :) ... fan of your for years, not time to join in lol.
Have a great year ahead, all the best Kieron
@joeldoyle6359 Says:
Christopher, Happy New Year I sincerely hope 2022 is a good year for your business and continued growth for your channel.
@Kw1161 Says:
Chris: Thanks for another great video, with brain filling information....have a Happy New Year...a safe year too!
@FatallyYours230 Says:
Hi Chris!!!!!!
@mikewillis1592 Says:
Great video - but it seems to be about fixing an issue that should never have occured in the first place. Rule 1 for deploying new computer operating systems is not to break important existing applications. PI foundation appear to have forgotten this rule.
@jonlorton9604 Says:
Chris, I disagree with the import of your remarks about expecting free upgrades to O/S. If I buy a product which has known or unknown faults it is reasonable to expect the vendor to fix the faults free of charge. With industrial automation software, which I spent a considerable period of my working life developing, if a fault was discovered we (I) was expected to fix the fault with a minimum of delay and immediatly apply the update at no cost. If I purchase a physical product it caries a warrenty which covers faults for a period at no cost. Why should software be any different ?
@jfan4reva Says:
Having just spent $140 for Windows 10 Home because my wife doesn't like Linux, I'd argue strongly against your statement about Windows being 'free'. Never has been. It's only 'free' when they bundle a computer with it....
@mikiethebikie Says:
Good comments about operating systems in general.
@Noxeus1996 Says:
Regarding OS support: recently a German law was passed that requires manufacturers of digital devices to provide software updates for the expected life span of a product because for many products at some point the manufacturer just stops providing updates or shuts down a server that is essential for the product to function.
@PatrickConstant Says:
I used the distro on a new PI W zero 2 W, adding MotionEye package and it's work fine. Thanks
@danieldc8841 Says:
Do you need to specify the camera mode to use the higher resolution?
@madmattman5675 Says:
Great video! I just have one quick question: Is there any news on whether the camera will work on a pi02w on bullseye using the new stack? 🙂
Tanks!
@reggiep75 Says:
I preferred buying my operating systems but Microsoft no longer want just your cash, they want your data, your thoughts, your habits and anything else they can feed into algorithmic computers to generate profit from together with selling that data onto other tech bodies for their usage.
@glasspaul1 Says:
Thanks!
@poweruser60 Says:
I've been an avid watcher of EC over the years and thoroughly enjoyed all episodes but I feel I must comment on your assertion that we have no right to expect 'free' software updates, this comment misunderstands the Open Software concept. You claim that nowhere else does this business model exist, the Smart TV marketplace is a classic example where a regular software update is part of the service provision and understood as a marketing cost - would you buy a Smart TV that didn't offer updates and fault fixes. From a marketing perspective Raspberry OS is tied to Debian and must maintain compatibility, without regular updates compatibility couldn't be maintained and the whole raison d'etre behind Raspberry would be abandoned.
@chrissoskavounis4307 Says:
Thank you Chris ! Another great video for the pi users!!! Have you tried the MX version for the pi? It is based on debian(raspberry pi os) but it is very well putted together. For my pi4 i use this one and the manjaro xfce version . Anyway give a try if you want! You will be amazed!!!
@Rouxenator Says:
While my Pi is only used as a home server with no cameras I have not been able to update it to Bullseye. That said, Debian seems to be the only current OS that supports 32-bit processors. I have a couple of Via C7 1ghz thin clients that I successfully installed the latest release of Debian Bullseye on (headless) with no issues and the performance is exceptional.
@steveoddlers9696 Says:
That screen around the 4-minute-mark looks like it's asking me whether I have Soundblaster or Adlib sound.
@kurtweber162 Says:
as always well done and presented. May I ask an off topic question? Any advice on books on Linux terminal commands? Thanks in advance, trying to guess is driving me a bit nuts. lol.
@poppabearskitchen1769 Says:
Excellent job, thank you for your time and effort.
@TheFartfish Says:
Food for algorithm ;-)
@weerobot Says:
Cool...
@beauslim Says:
Linux has a long history of developing some new system (libinput or KMS/DRM for example) and then dumping the old, mature, full-featured, well documented system on the floor long before the new one has caught up. This is one of the reasons I don't run Linux on desktop even though I've been using it on servers for almost 30 years.
@ChrisBohling Says:
I think I missed the point about free OS updates. Is this the same for volunteer distros as for corporate? Considering the cost of new iOS devices, updates are included, not gratis. Of course, Apple prices are part of the Apple lifestyle. 💸
@mc10guru Says:
Ahoy Chris, Thanks for letting us know about the problems with the new RPi OS. My problem is that I consider an upgrade something that can be applied over my present system. RPi OS 11 cannot do that, it has to be a new install. It took me about 7 months to get my system where it is now and don't relish that process again. I use MIDI keyboards etc and just getting MIDI working well took me almost a month.; anyone who uses Linux can tell you how finicky the sound is. I still can't use Pulseaudio and 2 months ago my Jack server broke. This happened right after a power failure messed with my SSD. I can still run my system but any attempt at a BU fails.
My plan now is to get a new Bullseye system setup on a HDD on my RPi 400. When I get it all done and working I'll reformat my SSD and copy the HDD over to my SSD. Ah well, it's a long winter with time to spare here in Ohio USA.
Happy Holidays! MC10Guru
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