Well, well, fellas -- way t' get some views, dropping the Peterson name. Does this make you Jordanites? Does Tammy fit into your Christ-ian definition? Definitely? Indefinitely? Christ didn't invent "christian." Some historians/politicians did. Christ wants us to see, to learn, to confess HOW/WHEN a "christian" is NOT dead in Christ -- is NOT surrendered to eternal salvation in His merciful life-giving Blood. Try this out: do I want to be loved more than God is loved? This is evil, in a nutshell. Not a "definition" of evil -- the practice of evil. What the abject eternal enemy of Love offered God's first creatures -- "you can be LIKE God." Equal, or even superior to Divinity, Creator of heaven and earth. We inherit this urgency with our natural conception. CAN I be, more loved than God? Tsk. Check yourselves, fellas. Is that what you're after, as "christians?" As "christian" critics? Defining Love incarnate? Try this; "He who is not for me is against me." We didn't invent that. It's not a definition. Rather, a practice. 🕊
@LordLanceLotLegacies Says:
To add my personal insight, I see the brilliant maneuvering Dr. Peterson was weaving and the creating a psychological nightmare for these twos, and the looks ricky was given the body language says it all. Another profounding study example Dr. Peterson! Well done Gent, the world is a little clearer with you helping explain the narrative. You sir are invaluable, Thank you.
@LordLanceLotLegacies Says:
Timestamped summary
Cancel culture, fueled by a decline in free speech and a lack of viewpoint diversity in higher education, is a destructive force that needs to be addressed through rationality, open discourse, and a cultural shift away from victimhood.
@LordLanceLotLegacies Says:
Key insights
Challenges in Higher Education and Educational Practices
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The speaker commends Greg for pointing out that the current approach of hyper-protecting and infantilizing young people is not effective and goes against the principles of cognitive behavioral therapy.
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The self-esteem movement in schools produced neurotic narcissists and led to a decline in literacy rates, highlighting the negative consequences of misguided educational practices.
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Telling the truth requires letting go of what you want and being open to the unknown, which can lead to true adventure and meaningful experiences.
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The fact that Steven Pinker felt the need to establish an organization to promote free speech at Harvard suggests that the university has become dreadful in terms of allowing open discourse.
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The decline of prestigious institutions in the United States, such as Ivy League schools and the state school system in California, is seen as a complete catastrophe and is hard to believe.
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The rising cost of higher education and the burden of student debt border on criminal, as administrators exploit students' future financial prospects.
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The rise in self-destructive neuroticism among young people is a cataclysmic phenomenon that needs to be addressed.
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The demoralization of young people by labeling their ambitions as pathological and world destroying, along with the vision of a necessary apocalyptic future, has had a detrimental effect on their well-being.
Impact of Cancel Culture and Free Speech
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Cancel culture succeeds by making the cost of dissent so high that it effectively silences opposing arguments without the need for persuasion.
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The expression of psychopathic and narcissistic behavior has no constraints on social media, enabling the trolls and online criminals who possess dark tetrad personality characteristics to thrive and potentially bring down the entire system.
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The rise of politically correct authoritarian doctrine and cancel culture may be exacerbated by the emergence of female-dominated institutions and the immense technological capacity that enables reputation savaging and gossiping on social media.
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The speaker expresses concern about the potential loss of free speech in Canada, stating that it is already gone.
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"If you think you can just get rid of bad ideas on campus through legislation, well, I've got bad news for you. They're already trying to do that all across the country."
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The speaker argues that telling people what they must say is a thousand times worse than telling them what they can't say, highlighting the importance of free speech.
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"Just courage is contagious and cancel culture thrives off of making everyone feel alone and as though they're the only person around them that thinks the way that they do."
Effects of Toxic Femininity and Gender Dynamics
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The authors discuss the difference between feminine and masculine tendencies in relation to free speech, highlighting the rarely discussed phenomenon of toxic femininity.
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Female administrators and professors in higher education institutions may infantilize their students and misuse their protective instincts, which can be a concerning phenomenon.
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"If no one gets to be successful, then everyone gets to be miserable."
@LordLanceLotLegacies Says:
TLDR People are discussing the existence of toxic femininity and the negative impact of toxic behavior regardless of gender.
@jandl2394 Says:
Racist DEI combined with WOKE extremism may be the greatest threat to our liberties since USSR
@jeffla1294 Says:
love all your work! but could you let your guests talk more. in this case would love to hear more Rikki Schlott. tks for all your work.
@justrichard2491 Says:
I don't normally comment because realistically I don't believe many people actually read the comments under YT videos. But I have heard Mr. Peterson say (paraphrasing) "people don't do that in real life because they would get punched" with enough frequency that it almost seems like that is an intentional defense of a system that rewards physical intimidation. Personally, I don't think punching someone because they insult me is correct. But to be fair, destroying someone verbally with ad-hominem attacks, or silencing them using personality cults and gossip also isn't correct. So in the online space, what option is left except to change the system itself by either removing anonymity or imposing rules that curtail freedoms? Please realize, what I'm saying here is that neither the masculine aggressive reaction, nor the feminine aggressive reaction is valid. Rather, we should be condemning both as a legitimate way to address counter-viewpoints (both online and in person).
Online discourse has, if anything, removed the typical, masculine aggressive response from the equation. All that is left is the feminine aggressive response, and their methods are proving effective in that space where intimidation falls flat. But we shouldn't be seeking a way to empower intimidation. The "say that to my face and I'll knock you on your ass" response is really just bluster, but also I think it is a move in the wrong direction. And I'm not saying men should adopt the feminine tactics. Rather, we should all be working on fixing the environment.
Removing anonymity is the classic masculine solution. And of course it is! Removing anonymity brings the male intimidation tactic back into play. The weak trolls would scurry away into the shadows. But, is that what we really need?
Maybe with the popularization of AI we could devise a system that monitors what people post and provides a little thought-bubble whenever a logical fallacy is introduced. I hesitate to suggest fact-checking bubbles because what passes for "fact" is so frequently disputed. But at the very least a thought bubble could pop up when, for example an ad-hominem attack is presented; or when a clearly invalid argument is proposed. We have amazing, real-time systems that check our spelling and grammar; I suspect that a system that check for logical fallacies might at least alert people that the speaker is taking liberties where they should not.
Anyway, if you read this, thank you for your time and attention.
@jtking76 Says:
Starting at 41:15 Greg Lukianoff makes some points about the dangers new technologies that drastically expand the dispersal of information that I never considered. What makes JPB's podcasts so great is that they rarely fail to present ideas that I never before considered.
@KlausHergersheimer-g2v Says:
The damage done to our institutions, by so called progressives, is incalculable. As the woke activist generation enters the workforce problems will only become more apparent.
@rudolfhough6226 Says:
No one is saying that the female toxic attitude would change if THE PILL was banned,......that is the cause of all the bull in modern tech.
@pjscustomsllc3885 Says:
"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise." -C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man
@kob8634 Says:
16:19 QUIT IT!!!! STOP saying "women's violence is relationship violence". I grew up in a 10 person home with 4 females and I can testify unequivocably that women's violence is MORE, MUCH MORE, dangerous than average male violence which can, sometimes, mean almost nothing. Female violence indicates a life-long problem person and a life-long problem attitude that will never ease. And, then dealing with the "non violent" versions of the same thing is school was truly tragic for my childhood. Made HELLISH by females until I was in my twenties at which poin they wanted something from me and then started LYING about themselves and the world. Yes, if Peterson had been born 75 years earlier I might not have been so confused by these cunts.
@johnsantello8515 Says:
I love Dr. JBP. What's up with his wardrobe?
@Neveragain2025 Says:
ricky caught herself in the grand scheme of things
@kjvail Says:
Wokeness is absolutely toxic femininity.
@CallegriaofSoulbound Says:
I have a stupid belief and it is stupid in the fact it is so simple and basic and has been said in more ways then could have been imagined. Toxic masculinity only exists as a projection of Toxic Femininity. More importantly, it is a self-evident creation of what female culture in male physique could corrupt having both the emotional and physical destructive upper hand. In short, it is an omission of the greatest fear.
@CallegriaofSoulbound Says:
Jordan Peterson I could kiss you for saying one thing and one thing particularly, "They put obstacles in the way rather then clearing them." This is a fundamental issue in ALL business large and small preventing growth. Managers who should have never been managing because they haven't learned to remove the obstacles instead of crushing their employees against them.
@daisyviluck7932 Says:
There’s no difference between gender and sex
@daisyviluck7932 Says:
Now matter what psychological pretzels you try to twist your mind into, the fact remains that increasing secularism = increasing mental illness and substance abuse. So it’s no wonder that American liberalism brought us to this point
@tedgunderson5009 Says:
I have a female neighbor who has attacked me with verbal abuse shouted up through my floor, social poisoning the well, gossip, harassment, stalking etc and it has caused me incredible amounts of pain and I would have much preferred to have a man hate me and challenge me to a fight than this.
It has been utterly devastating and it will likely take be many years or decades to recover from if I ever fully can. She of course tells people that I'm a psychopath and she is the victim.
@bingobango9932 Says:
Women have not had their freedoms for as long as men have.
Kinda like the Internet, we’re still at the very beginning of… ah who knows what’s going to happen next, Man.
So let’s cut the women ‘some’ slack.
@philstewart5964 Says:
I loved this. You guys are the poster children of the free world where sanity rules!
@scottireland5414 Says:
Not as toxic as it is corrosive.
@davidmeiselman3276 Says:
(1:00:xx) Dr. Peterson finally asks "Ricky" Schlott a question.
@seriousros7280 Says:
As more brave souls speak common sense, by default, the institutions will lose their credibility as they lose their best people. They will be left with nobody to cancel. Truth tellers always hold the power
@seriousros7280 Says:
Many women whether by choice or nature are not mothers. I find the tendency of psychologists to ally all female motivations to their role as mothers very misguided.
@anthonyml7 Says:
I mean has anyone seen the movie “Encanto” by Disney. Best example of toxic femininity.
@jimetal28 Says:
She's not real.
Ive been listening for 10 mins now, and have only heard the word "like" once.
Try it yourself.
I don't know how to feel right now.
@Vetr151 Says:
As a non feminist woman, I prefer masculine man, have a distaste for feminised man ,and detest qrotesque masculinised women pretending to be men. In addition now we have to endure a notion of wife, husband in same sex relationships . .. a systematic process to break down hetero sexual relationships , societal structures, to change and normalise the unacceptable. Now It seems some are hard wired for same sex orientation. So what next?. Was that before or after research from paedophiles & sexual orientation as disclosed by certain psychologists. Children have become life style choices, their rights and needs are superseded by demands of some.
Ordinary people, men, women and children are affected in one way or other . The positive protective types of father , brother or husband figures had high value but now muffled into a corner like lapdogs.
Now I have always stood up for my rights , but would not understate
the protective bigger shoulder of a good man . ... like finding a needle in a haystack
Equality is a joke? It is not about pretending to be a man or woman?
P.s there is no equality or inherent rights in also being referred to as black.
It is a errosion of my asian ID, & denial of my own roots and ancestors,
As an Asian woman, of Indian heritage assumptions are often made about political affliations with class, labour , socialist or Gandhi followers . Complete bunkum.
@xXGENDAMAGEXx Says:
The only way to use all Human capital including women. Is to neglect the need to raise Children. Jordan’s goal to allow people to get degrees based on merit. And for less money by half than what they’re being charged per year. Is a winner of an Idea. The current system is totally corrupt. And other options are also outrageously expensive.
@mqcapps Says:
Forgot about the social media business model
@jamesleth806 Says:
Toxic feminism the destruction of the West How sad.
@elsenored562 Says:
26:19 Peterson: "If there is a feminine proclivity to prioritize emotion, why might that be?"
• women are more prone to feeling negative emotion
• it has something to do with sexual maturation
@elsenored562 Says:
"Greg Lukianoff is the President of FIRE, the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education."
@mattgascho5116 Says:
I don’t normally comment, but this girl is brilliant
@NoraRoisin Says:
On the subject of how depressed young people may be today (I'm on the younger end of millennial, and am not hanging out with the newer generations much at the moment*), I wonder if being in school, where they are disconnected from 'everyday life,' working with one's hands, and the sorts of things that make families and society function, is also depressing them. They're in an artificial reality until (I suppose) after they graduate all the schooling they end up doing. It may have been a strain on previous generations (mine, perhaps my parents), but such things set in deeper on generations that don't even have parents, or grandparents, who remember times when there was more hands-on stuff to do- more connection to Real Life.
It matters because such things can put a lot of imagined-up emotional issues into contrast and make it more clear how important different feelings one is experiencing are (I have found, with a step back to see the big picture, some emotional problems simply vanish away). It is also good to feel like one is doing something, however mundane, that's worthwhile, rather than studying for when one can supposedly 'contribute to society.' I'm not saying studying is bad, but I think there needs to be more of a balance, and children need to be more connected to actual cross-generational community.
*I am forgetting children under the age of 13-14 here, actually. And they are in quite countercultural families, too.
@jonredgreen Says:
Toxic feminity the topic, the incompetent woman suggests that we can teach more rationality starting in kindergarten - women are different, as she showcased real time!
@josephludwig1126 Says:
Again, she had to delivery her 4.0, useless girl who owes that as a resume.
@ujdd201 Says:
I am a public school teacher and I can tell you toxic femininity definetly exists.
@davidrogers707 Says:
I think most modern day so-called conservatives are only conservative my name not by nature, on the same par as a Bali nock-off Rolex you buy off a street scalper for five bucks or a pair of Jordans from Korea. In an age of virtue signaling and social tribalism people will join what ever side that will feed their ego and gets likes on social media, at the higher levels like politics it's what ever side of the fence that will get their ass in a seat at a table, they aren't loyal to a cause, not even to themselves, their soul is for hire to the highest bidder
@angelafloodgate4437 Says:
Typically the female narcissist appoint a person (or group) as oppressed and proceed to justify all kinds of blatant injustices with the claim that they are just defending the rights of that person. Never mind wether that person asked for or appreciates the “help”.
@andrewlacey7771 Says:
She's so gorgeous
@grumpydrummer8960 Says:
Why waste your time and money on college / universities? Try to get a trade qualification instead.
@grumpydrummer8960 Says:
Why waste your time and money on college / universities and get a trade qualification instead. Better money
@drewcarlson4022 Says:
She's 23??
@andreys7729 Says:
Which one is Jordan?
@usa11227 Says:
Conservative mindset is accepting the world as it exists rather than expecting the world to conform to your subjective idea as to what it “should” be. Alternatively, it is called accepting reality and truth.
@GregSheffer Says:
If Toxic masculinity is a real thing then it is only bested as a real thing by toxic femininity for the reason that up to now it seems to be a non starter for a conversation or it literally isn’t even recognized as being in existence.
@bradleycollins2858 Says:
With respect to Dr. Peterson and his guests, I don’t think we should go straight to opting out of higher education for the reasons given here. There are still institutions of higher education that do not promote the detriment of the patriarchy, and who do not support the propagation of the postmodernism era, etc. Having gone back to college in my mid 30s and now doing my masters degree in my early 40s, I can say that there is definitely value in it and it is a right of passage as a young person or even a young adult or even an adult to go to, excel in, and Graduate from a university. Is not mutually exclusive to have a fair and sane educational path and not be able to combine that with higher education. Going back to college, completely changed me and made me grow in ways I could never have imagined. We cannot forget those things.
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