Inspiring, educational and profound. Thank you gentleman 🙏🏻
@JoseValencia-fr8wh Says:
Archetypes are ancient “demonic” spirits .
@christopherdowns2430 Says:
America was great why was it great you must be because of all these things that we've discovered in Christianity
@christopherdowns2430 Says:
NT Wright! Scott Hahn! Where are you? No one can better connect old testament understanding to Christ and modern Christianity.
@davidmoncayo454 Says:
I am filled with awe and gratitude of being able to enjoy such a profound, fun and mystical conversation.
Thank you.
@Theogvineofthedead Says:
The existentialism is so encompassing, its comfortable. Thank you for this conversation.
Fluffy ground pillows with arm rests. This is deeper than you know. And in turn. Deeper than I think I know. 😅
@keithmartin6815 Says:
Anyone who recognizes the Demonic influence should remember the book of job. Read job 14:12-14 Man also lies down and does not get up. Until heaven is no more, they will not wake up, Nor will they be aroused from their sleep. 13 O that in the Grave you would conceal me, That you would hide me until your anger passes by, That you would set a time limit for me and remember me! 14 If a man dies, can he live again? I will wait all the days of my compulsory service Until my relief comes." Consider that job put faith in the prospect of living again. This is interesting because in the " tale of Gilgamesh" living forever was a wish that could not be granted by the gin. Demonic presence . Although many relationships with demonic entities have filled our various religious schools read how the bible described these teachings. 1 Corinthians 10:20,21 No; but I say that what the nations sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers with the demons. 21 You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of demons; you cannot be partaking of “the table of Jehovah” and the table of demons." To have the demonic force named and offer instruction is identical to going up to the mountain to receive the book of the law. And from these scriptures it's clear you can't be talking food from both tables.
@diangoodas Says:
What is "wow" ?
@lizruiz4164 Says:
Dr. Peterson, right at the 50:22 mark you say “that’s quite a trip. “. I believe what Dr. Vervake is speaking of is the concept of Ecclesiastes 7:15-18.
@tessapriddy6592 Says:
Beware of Dr. Vervaeke. Those are demons he’s having visions of and coming into agreement with.
@BlossomAndGuinea Says:
Every word is so meaningful
@KarhuSarvi Says:
Unbelievably beautiful conversation. Thank you!
@LaneyBabys Says:
❤i love Jordan Peterson❤thank you for enlightening me.
@LC-jh3es Says:
My faith is a Faithfulness to a process of self correction (within) not any one faculty as the voice of the divine (without). Full person= soul (within).
Deception= body personality (without).
@andybuhr1474 Says:
Jordan - you interrupt too much; the man is completely capable of expressing his thoughts fully with you having to jump in and assert yourself. I often became annoyed because... whilst he was right in the middle of something interesting, you continually interrupted the flow.
@Lucida1818 Says:
Over intellectualising “knowing what we do not know” 😅
@raphael1808 Says:
47:07 😮😮
@raphael1808 Says:
46:13 😮
@raphael1808 Says:
43:30 😮
@raphael1808 Says:
46:14 😯
@raphael1808 Says:
52:25 deep
@raphael1808 Says:
49:52 deep
@justinorange8903 Says:
43:00 min in - opponent processing
@jimjacobs3436 Says:
You’ve highbrowed yrself out of accessibility.
@AngeloMagni Says:
I love Jordan Peterson but it drives me crazy how he keeps interrupting whoever the interlocutor is
@SWBodyguard Says:
"We have a Jesus crisis!" - Marylin Manson
My fucking hero.
@tytoalba7406 Says:
The funny thing is that the word "demon" comes from the Greek "daimon", daimons or demons-in Greek mythology are guardian spirits of human, they are also the voices of conscience and teach morality. According to Platonism, demons are ideal, disembodied, benevolent and asexual spirits who protect a person. In the iconography of the pagan Greeks, there were many different images of demons, but the most frequent and popular image is a girl or a young man of androgynous appearance with wings and in white clothes. They were also believed to sing beautifully and play harps.
@mikejames-io7rm Says:
Two sincere men doing spiritual work. I would really like to hear Peterson and Vervaeke talk about process metaphysics and Alfred North Whitehead
@cleverestx Says:
To find out if people (and of course YOU) have meaning in life: "What do you want to exist even if you don't? ...and how much of a difference do you make to it now?" - Dr. John Vervaeke
That is SO PROFOUND! I just had a transformative moment hearing this so beautifully articulated.
@maxdliss Says:
this is unbelievable
@Anni.things Says:
We are not in Kansas , anymore Dorothy
@matthewknight5641 Says:
Jordan Peterson and Chuck missler saved my life
@GraceSpunge Says:
The word (the key of David) unlocks Spiritual DNA in neurons (adult neurogenesis). Jonah preaches psalms to himself, and is transformed.
(Galatians 3:5)(Romans 10:17)(Romans 12:2)
@Êrnië_Båll100 Says:
So astonishing how complex simple things can be made. Thank God we had Jesus who put all of this and much more in a form that doesn't require a doctor's degree. Just an open heart.
@mahdielzein85 Says:
Amazing conversation.
@amoh5 Says:
With Christian psychology, it seems like a battle between our immature hedonistic selves and our mature honourable selves, pretty nasty alright.
But our mature honourable selves seems connected to a parental consciousness which is probably the God consciousness
@christiandeblanc1201 Says:
The sacred is inextricably linked to the Transcendent. That's why it's sacred. It links us to non-propositional ways of knowing. It unifies the cerebral hemispheres and the head links up to the heart. Brainwaves converge to Alpha and relax down into Theta so we can get the feeling of flow and the numinous. For something to truly be sacred, it must be able to swallow the ego, (i.e., dissolve the left-hemisphere's grip on conscious decision making). It must also be sublime, as it is greater than I and yet still relatable to me, (i.e., God). In dissolving the ego with a sense of greater relatedness, we achieve Nirvana. Thus, transcendent sublime nirvana would be the simplest three-word explanation of the sacred. Yet, just talking about it is obviously a pitiful means of trying to anchor ourselves to the sacred. Breathing techniques, being in nature, grounded barefoot, and thinking artfully about one's life are the best ways to achieve the sacred, but we all know dia-logos will get us there if we are as honest as these two gentlemen are when they speak. They are a testament to the kind of open, honest, dialogue that can lead to the feeling of the sacred.
@Middlescholar Says:
Peterson. Though you don’t like identity politics, but suitable only when it’s “we the west” and “them the rest”? So the west as identity is good? You feel that the “west” can be reduced to an identity group? What about the truth, does it figure in this battle-like identity panic, or no care at all for objective truth if it’s to save the west. Can you save the west by crowding together into a fantastical ideation about the rest and the west? Come visit Egypt Peterson you need to learn a bit!!
@Middlescholar Says:
What about actual living demons with actual political agendas? You letting yourselves be part of their wave thinking the demons are on the other side! Liars to yourselves essentially! You can’t be a good source of ethical talk and thought, if you are also unable to stand against a freakin genocide! What do you say?
@totalblaze Says:
with respect, theese suits are awful Jordan.
@DevInvest Says:
Truth is most sacred.
@septillionsuns Says:
I am very grateful in the attempts at secularizing spirituality to show how we are all quite unconsciously spiritual and that there are many avenues to communion with Wisdom. I cannot abide ideologies, especially ideologies that dismiss "others" their access to Wisdom and paths to "heaven".
@venturemogul Says:
10 min to ask the first question? Peterson really likes to listen to himself!
@Robb3348 Says:
1:05:35 is a crucial moment surely, but I find it semantically unintelligible. Who wants to say what they think JV meant?
@DonnyDaHonis Says:
Bad timing for the ad
@LB-W Says:
Why does John not go further back past the Socratic time to 5th century and Empedocles?
@LB-W Says:
Would you ever have Bernardo Kastrup on
@ricosuave1182 Says:
I am sad and glad to say that this conversation os out of my league..... I ll be back 💪🏽
@jbones3307 Says:
1:16:37 love isn’t devalued when given out because it’s value does not rest in reciprocity
@jbones3307 Says:
58:26 God being an unquenchable fire and the same description given to the lake of fire. Kinda sounds like we’re all thoughts in God’s mind and once the thought is complete it returns to the father or is cast into the fray of thoughts that didn’t hold up to scrutiny. The same way Jordan will write a sentence fifty times to get the correct statement with the most dense meaning.
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