Brilliant conversation - this conversation was true dia-logos. It was beautiful to see them truly seeing and engaging with each other. There was a depth to this conversation that was only possible due to this quality of engagement.
Thank you - you both shared some amazing things to think about and engage with on a philosophical and practical level (especially as I’m recently married and am engaging with Love at a depth I’ve never thought I could).
Thank you Jordan and Tor 🙏
@NorwayT Says:
Fascinating Conversation, Jordan B. Peterson. I do think Tor Nørretranders has quite a naïve view of what Love is, as an opposite of Evil. Sure, the Love, specifically Agape, that is a consequence of Judeo-Christian Morality is diametrical opposite to (Satan's equivalent of "love", namely) Evil. But I don't see for instance Romantic Love necessarily as an opposite or opposing Force to Evil. I've "been around the block". I've been an Agnostic, Atheist and Buddhist (mostly for its Philosophical Teachings). But I realized: —Nothing but Almighty GOD can fill that GOD-shaped hole in my Soul. And when it comes to remedy Satan's own Evil — only GOD's Love and the generation of Love we get from practicing HIS Moral Laws can really fight and destroy Evil in the ultimate.
@goingtogetugly9657 Says:
It seems to me the conversation is primarily about the contents of consciousness and not consciousness itself.
This may be inevitable when consciousness is approached via a paradigm of scientific materialism: Everything has to be understood in mechanistic terms. The question becomes 'How does this phenomenon work?' rather than 'What is this phenomenon?'.
@alexguvez Says:
This is a really gem episode. I thought about that a lot and now it is so structured with words by these amazing men. Bravo!
@user-sh9rh6sk5z Says:
Thanks
@tim2269 Says:
45:28 Yes ! Very interesting.Divergent world view ,meaning and ego structure
@aky2k10 Says:
Why does the host need to talk so bombastically for so long!!? This is always a big put off and makes it hard to listen to.
@markcounseling Says:
1:35:10 The pinpoint of consciousness arises within or as the experience of relationship. Very profound point. I feel like JBP meets one of his own teachers here
@markcounseling Says:
1:10:46 This guest is just really really good!
@markcounseling Says:
46:13 OMG. With this, I understand my fundamental orientation or psychological bent in life, the hunter-gatherer mindset, and I understand my wife's mindset, the farmer, as well, and how differences in perspective therein arise.
@user-re2iq7bq4m Says:
Further to the discussion of agriculture, I am reminded of the 7-year cycles required in the promised land when the children of Israel returned from Egypt. The land was to lie fallow every 7th year, which affected farming practices throughout the 7-year cycle. During the 7th year the people ate what the land produced naturally, plus what they had saved from the 6th year (in which God promised abundant harvests).
@JaceyNix-es8cv Says:
I am so thankful for these conversations.
@markcounseling Says:
30:18 Wow, the symmetry breaking that is the beginning of Life. The pointing. I wonder if Michael Levin has any thoughts on Watson's work.
@sirreptitious6645 Says:
Eating local naturally occurring food, as at Noma, was always a novelty the relatively wealthy could indulge in precisely because most of their daily sustenance came from reliable and relatively inexpensive conventional sources. Eating “Noma-style” is highly unsustainable. If very many tried it they would soon be traveling hundreds of kilometers daily to try and (unsuccessfully) find enough food. Not very local, not to mention the ecological cost of traveling all over the countryside scrounging for enough to survive on. I’ll leave that to the “Survivor” type reality show people and be very thankful for the abundant and relatively inexpensive food I enjoy from modern agricultural practices.
@joykeebler1916 Says:
- i(I)'m just kidding as to my last three previous comments Don't take seriously
@joykeebler1916 Says:
- well no more attempting to make a personal bong in art class
@joykeebler1916 Says:
- well no more listening to Grateful Dead albums backwards at 45-speed
@joykeebler1916 Says:
- well no peyote button soup ,with psilocybin mushrooms tenderly brought to boil and as to adding lastly cannabis sprinkles on top
@joykeebler1916 Says:
- part of the image is that of memory written as a vinyl album in the mind
@joykeebler1916 Says:
:a personal: the God as also within the comment last and previous towards so the meaning
@joykeebler1916 Says:
- the al p ha and the o me ga / the beg inning and the en ding | the fir st and the l a s t as to being [t o w a r d >s] comprehended and read...
@hezengods4157 Says:
I believe that the 16bit intake, that you consider it to be a compression, is in fact an encryption key .
@zacksymes Says:
We’re dreaming while awake, and that’s by definition — running internal models that may or may not reflect reality properly. Starting to sound a lot like Hindu mysticism.
@user-lz3jj6vc9h Says:
Главное,относиться к другому человеку,как ты хотел бы, чтобы относились к тебе. Уважение и принятие того, что мы все не идеальны.И так же относиться к окружающему миру. С уважением и чувством любви. Но в отношениях между людьми есть две стороны. Надо,чтобы оба стремились к диалогу. Иначе,ничего не получится. Слушайте своё сердце!И ещё,новое открывают люди,которые нарушают правила.Их любопытство и исследовательский талант дарят нам всем научные открытия.Просто они увидели новое за пределами этих правил. Мне так это представляется.
@christiandoscher1016 Says:
allusion to illusion
@christiandoscher1016 Says:
after mushroooms epsisode.
@LilaSilk Says:
Thank you so much for this incredibly interesting information! At about 07:50 what comes to mind is the gut feeling, or seventh sense, could it be the unused information that beckons to our conciousness?
@dougwilliams9525 Says:
It was in watching Jordan in this video, especially around the midpoint when he brought in Jehovah placing Moses in the cleft of the rock, the Tower of Babel, and Cain and Abel, that I realized I should also be looking for opportunities to bring these and other Biblical stories into my conversations. He really has inspired me to push forward assertively but graciously with these illustrations that are embedded with rich meaning.
@mrsmith2201 Says:
Saint Jordan Peterson
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Vulnerability
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Rael ity
@jasonmills8592 Says:
You are greedy for knowledge, and i see what you do with it
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Pry fight
Private
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Relay shun
@jasonmills8592 Says:
VAV
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Vav
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Following instructions is basically cheating, how are you smart lmao
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Love the rock, idiots
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Jot this down.
@jasonmills8592 Says:
CCCC
@jasonmills8592 Says:
You are being farmed, used as an engine to produce intellectual property for warlords
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Names separate, that's a book man wrote
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Name
En a me
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Zen
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Rude. My roots are fine.
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Why can't it be burgundy? Maroon?
@jasonmills8592 Says:
O'doyl rules!
@jasonmills8592 Says:
Language is fancy name for an organized collection of lines.
Your arrogance allows you to presume you control your creations.
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