What you are about to watch is an abridged version of the full interview between Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and women's rights activist Helen Joyce. Due to content policies that could threaten our ability to use this platform, a 34-minute cut is necessary. Regardless, the conversation contained within is important now more than ever. If you would like to support freedom of speech and the free exploration of ideas, then please consider watching the full 2-hour interview on the DailyWire+: https://bit.ly/3KrWbS8
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Helen Joyce discuss the takedown of their last interview on this channel, the true tradition of women's rights, and the harsh reality of what women stand to lose today.
Helen Joyce is an Irish novelist and journalist, acting as the executive editor for events and business at the Economist in London. Before this, she trained as a mathematician, graduating from the Trinity College in Dublin, before attending Cambridge. She then acquired a PHD in geometric measure theory at the University College London. She has held many roles as a journalist, working for PLUS Magazine and Significance Magazine, both of which have an emphasis on communicating complex math and statistics to the everyday reader. Later, she would spend three years as the Economist's foreign correspondent to Brazil, living in São Paulo. In 2018, Joyce curated a series of articles on transgender identity, which led her to author the Sunday Times bestselling book, 'Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality.'
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(0:00) An interim solution
(1:17) Coming up
(1:31) Intro
(3:19) Sex-based segregation
(8:57) Why not have freedom of association?
(10:59) The realms where the market does not go
(14:41) Consent used to be a thing
(15:21) J. K. Rowling: taking on the mob
(17:59) The act of speaking up amidst the silent
(26:52) The problem with homogeneity in journalism
(30:02) Sex Matters: focused on preserving the law
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Thank you Dr's Peterson and Joyce 💯🙏 Life saving. Thx for having a voice for those who can't.
@sluggygrumble5164 Says:
This guy is a prat
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 Says:
They have reduced female to a person with feminine hormones and feminine dress . You do need chromosomes or reproductive organs
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 Says:
Femininity and masculinity hormone levels are feelings. Male and female is biological parts. The rest is dress fashion
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 Says:
I WAS DESTROYED BY THE LIES OF THE TRANS INDUSTRY 30 YEARS OF CONFUSION. ARE THERE MALES WITH FEELINGS OF FEMININITY YES ACTUALLY ALL BOYS HAVE HORMONE LEVELS BEFORE PUBERTY IN THE FEMININE BALANCE
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 Says:
MEN AND WOMAN ARE MENTALLY DIFFERENT AS WELL. FOR EXAMPLE LOOK AT INVENTORS
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 Says:
IF BIOLOGICAL SEX IS IRRELEVANT WHAT ABOUT BIOLOGICAL AGE.
@Argeaux2 Says:
She was the Queen of the UK, not just of England.
Americans always get that wrong.
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 Says:
I identify as 30 years younger I want government to pay for my transition
@bristolfashion4421 Says:
Well done, everybody who works hard to promote open debate and the discussion of difficult topics - thank you! 😊
@desertdreamer7 Says:
Thank you for speaking up on this issue that is harming so many of us, especially the children.
@CPHSDC Says:
gotorumbledood
@U_SpoonyBard Says:
Jordan, please try and resist the tendency to interrupt your guests as best you can. I've watched several of your interviews now. I know you are generally on the other end of the table so it can get tricky but you have a knack of disrupting the flow of an answer from your guests that I genuinely want to hear. As opposed to going on a tangent of your own. I don't mean disrespect when I say that, I have the utmost for you.
@pandorakaravanBAND Says:
Joyce is brilliant. I couldn't help but feel during this conversation that, although Peterson agrees with her, ostensibly, that he can't really grok the female perspective.
@markaubuchon2227 Says:
YouTube censorship is such BS.
@larissalange8830 Says:
Glad to hear this conversation. On June 19 I attended an exclusive dinner at Vancouver high end restaurant Mott32. The washroom was coed. I struggled to adjust my bra straps and put drops into my eyes in a graceful manner next to a gentleman wasing his hands and habitually adjusting his crotch as men often do. I will never go to this restaurant again to have my privacy and dignity compromised.
@sinesaii Says:
I would agree with Mrs. Peterson. Men’s spaces and women’s spaces have a place in life. Women have violated men’s spaces, and now they are upset that their spaces are violated??? They do not have a leg to stand on. Either we both get single-space spaces, or no one does.
@tanyasmith6102 Says:
I voiced my opinions loud and clear on my FB page about my opinions on Trans women in sports and gender-affirming care for minors. Result = Very dear old-time friends canceled me. I no longer use social media. It's absolute poison. And although the loss of these friends cut me to the core, at least I can still look at myself in the mirror knowing I will do anything to preserve biological women's rights. It is deeply disappointing that communication on these topics is taboo.
@jesus_built_my_hotrod Says:
A man that dresses as a woman is still a man
@maevey3 Says:
I love her firm but civil authoritativeness. She just doesn't take shite, nor does she lose her cool. She's terrific.
@ShirleyShirley-t5f Says:
These comments emphasise how diverse thinking has become with freedom to express opinions.
@philjoyce7939 Says:
Wow! I'm a fan. (Not one bit related though. Joyce is a fairly common surname.)
@bslkchilders Says:
God designed male and female bodies, evolution is a myth.
@bslkchilders Says:
rumble?
@Marigold502 Says:
Queen of Britain!
@alanmccarthy4004 Says:
Not surprised Helen has a phd in maths. Her thinking and use of sentence structure are so concise and clear, they flow with the same temperament of a proof.
@Unintendedcompetence Says:
I admire you both so very much.
As a 60-year old man, I can succinctly recall Camille Paglia grousing about how transvestites do what they do because they covet the power of femininity and the power of reproduction.
They covet.
They don't love women. They don't admire women. They don't support women.
They are jealous of women and covet their power.
And how could this not be obviously true?
@keith.anthony.infinity.h Says:
Sex is important but in reality it is not a binary even in the face of gametes, chromosomes, and genitalia.
@torceridaho Says:
wow, the UK is such a nanny state. where are the real men?
@qwertyfiable5069 Says:
Good first question, long but good.
@fortynine3225 Says:
There is a straight line from woman with breast implants who think those are real breasts up to all this. Physical altering procedures which includes mental delusions for free. With all this being similar to going to a supermarket and buy bread. It is very clear that this has a lot to do with insecurities and delusions. There is enormous sums of money in that industry..16 billion dollar spend in plastic surgery industry in US in 2018 for instance. What we see now must have something to do with this industry lobbying..buying politicians..who shut up critics legaly...and not so much transformer ideology..those are just footsoldiers. Anyway one would like to see that folks like Helen Joyce follow the money trail so we know who is really responsable for butchering all these childeren...you likely will find business and politics are to blame here.
@taliaperkins1389 Says:
In the context of the matter at hand, sex is immaterial -- it does not matter that it exists anymore than that the earlobe has any particular shape or is even absent.
@Random_Road1021 Says:
Good interview but I found it really annoying how often he interrupted her
@mikeswanson6145 Says:
I will now refuse to pay for any YouTube anything. A company taken over by sensitive, censoring, freaks that have never worked a day in their lives.
@neologian1783 Says:
Make no mistake...the title of the video is spot on. This is a war over reality. It's not new. It's timeless probably. At the very least it dates back to the first homo sapiens that figured out they could control others by asserting they possessed insight into a higher reality than the one that was readily apparent to their neighbors. Don't believe your own lying eyes....follow me.....obey me. This is merely the latest skirmish in a very old war.
@theunwantedcritic Says:
How many times is Jordan going to interrupt her and complain about how terrible it is to be a guy? Jordan is one of those who really doesn’t like feminist women
@frankhoffman3566 Says:
In my long life I've definitely seen the speed of change accelerate. Of course even a long human life is a mere blink in the larger scheme of billions of years in the life of the Earth. With these lightning fast changes it's hard to adjust. It is not a mystery why so many feel alienated The values we keep and the ones we discard are constantly in play.
Few thinkers discuss how we might adapt to these shifts. JP discusses these issues more than most. It is a service when people like Ms. Joyce are interviewed. Society definitely needs this kind of analysis.
@abejar99 Says:
Thanks for the heads-up! Going over to twitter
@NotNowCato1254 Says:
Helen is a shining light to be proud of on this side of the pond. What is amazing to me is that she has not only weathered the woke storm since publishing her book but seems to be truly thriving on the challenge. One tough cookie 👏
@JustAnotherChannel100 Says:
Great talk about a very important issue. Very informative. Thank you for covering this topic.
@lisakinsey8797 Says:
If we see “the mob” as scared toddlers, then their behavior makes sense:
• Toddlers desire power and use aggression to get it.
• Toddlers do not understand power or aggression.
• Toddlers cannot comprehend evil, even within themselves.
Real toddlers can be raised, comforted and trained to be normal people.
Adults who still function as toddlers cannot be changed. They form “the mob” that is always going to be there: we cannot change that. “The mob” creates social contagions and is always looking for a “new religion.”
Right now, “the mob” has a voice through the media, social media and DEI. In the past, “the mob” had a voice through the NAZI Party.
What is similar between then and now? Lack of adult supervision.
Now, all we can do is choose:
• Reward appropriate behavior with limited positive attention. (Do not give unlimited positive attention.)
• Extinguish inappropriate behavior by negative consequences. (Hold firm to those negative consequences.)
@jamesrmorris1952 Says:
How long will it take in mixed toilets for a woman to complain a man looked at her and she will be believed and his life ruined when she could have imagined it like radical men hating feminists do and there's evidence that proves that if you are constantly looking for something you will find it no matter what. If you think all men are evil, misogynistic and perverts that abuse women you will see that whether it's there or not, just look at the scare experiment
@tinaari88 Says:
Helen Joyce is strong, courageous and seeks truth as well as speak truth! I hope this video goes viral and helps prevent many youths from going down that dark rabbit hole 🙏🏼
@phokingawesome007 Says:
Every janitor knows the truth. The women’s toilets are far more unsanitary and disgusting than the men’s.
@andrejprodan4016 Says:
First they came for the children, rob them of their souls and in the end of their bodies....Oh God what have they done!!!!!!
@tommikarsikas1320 Says:
Of all the silly shit that the Americans come up with... 🤦♂
@elisteele574 Says:
Commenting to support the channel
@edgarmorales4476 Says:
When Jesus stated: "Love your neighbor as yourself" - he meant that you should have equal concern for the comfort of your neighbor as you have for your own.
It also means that whatever you wish on to other people you would be happy to have wished on yourself in like manner.
It means that you must think the thoughts about others which you would be happy for them to think about you!
It means that your entire consciousness should be directed at caring, concern for others, no matter what they may be doing hurtful against yourself. All human beings are living in a jungle of human desires, goals, frailties, disappointments, angers and frustrations. Out of this war-torn consciousness come many weak and ill-judged responses and actions.
Therefore, behold the frailty, forgive the unkindness and let it go back into the nothingness out of which it came. The only TRUTH and REALITY in life is LOVE - pure UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. Hold fast to this realization at all times.
@cristalle9865 Says:
lol, I wouldn’t call Bari Weiss right wing. Such a difference between the extreme left and the moderate now that moderates look like right wing.
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