So thankful to be able to listen to conversations of many minds are at my fingertips, literally. Heaven does not sound boring to me. Watching the Revelation Series from Chuck Missler has been eye opening for me.
@vannjunkin8041 Says:
We're not smart enough to get this much correct brain matter into leadership. We fall into apocalypse and again into apocalypse, without learning. Mainly the social aspects of our selves.
@jeannettejordan7104 Says:
Ferguson makes the statement that people in ancient times had very short lifespans. The Bible gives very long life to the people before the flood. I see both those concepts as myths because we continually find that what we think we know about the past has to be radically revised. Maybe it’s the arrogance of this era that needs to be adjusted.
@25050ful Says:
I get the point, but mixing religious belief with scientific facts and criticizing "asceticism" due to factual undeniable impacts that diet has on the climate in the same way they criticize mystic beliefs is beyond idiotic.
@beauferguson9535 Says:
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@BotHunterCZE Says:
14:13 "Disasters are in many ways politically determined, even if their origin is natural."
@joshlongmusic Says:
Classic self centered position is the "collective" relativism position
@joshlongmusic Says:
Like a child's point of view about the end of the world. When have you ended?
@caeliallard Says:
This is the opposite of Calvinism. Calvinists believe they are so morally bankrupt and so deeply repulsive they need and require God in the form of the Holy Spirit to incline the human soul ti chose God. They believe we are so deprived we in our own desire are too horrible to ever believe in the One True God and He must call us and we are irresistibly placed to believe in this call. We believe that free will and divine providence are not at odds and a mystery. This man has falsely represented Calvinist theology in the most horrible way imaginable.
@mstephenjoy Says:
It is terrifying to now know that: unless people are constantly made aware of the disaster a nuclear war, that the political cost of the prevention may become too high to actually prevent it. I have had a sense for some time now that post apocalyptical fictions were harmful to society because it made the war look survivable, and worse, appealing to a young, listless generation anxious for a role and purpose in society. I am now seeing this desire might be partly what is behind societies apparent willingness to accept a nuclear war. I think that it is becoming inevitable unless we can somehow steer this ship in a different direction.
@user-ts4rd7sv5n Says:
Thank you both for giving my mind such wonderful exercise.
@usmc72409 Says:
20:00 made me think of Newsom and the current CA fires
@phb1955 Says:
The ability of pederson to analyze arguments and provide meaningful counter arguments is nothing short of astounding.
@jaymiller9254 Says:
There is no end of the world only the end of a world
Or the completion of a thought
@jeannettejordan7104 Says:
The people who see themselves as chosen Christian, rightfully look to a transcendent God as the almighty correct governance of all things. They don’t see themselves as the ultimate correct authority.
@DuncanAnderson-o5b Says:
Hitler and his cronies played a blinder. The German people were in the end happy to be led and wanted to be led when it came down to it. No firm democratic tradition probably didn't help.
@SebastianDix-hk3os Says:
I do not understand why JP interrupts a historian with some weirdly worded analogies to the bible only to pat himself on the back for that being a good way to put it and then getting back to the topic. So what - there is a biblical analogy, why is that relevant? That we have thought about this before already? So what?
@georgesoros6415 Says:
Y'know, my father, who was quite skeptical of academics in general, but who, from his WW2 experiences and his working alongside some great inventors, who, by the way, thought most academics fools, too, because they found their fancy theories went to $hit upon the slightest contact with the real world, and who found My Dad, and eventually me, to be an essential link between their truly great ideas and application in the real world. Since I have always been on that edge of engineering (practical, not esoteric) and science, we ran into very many true geniuses. Some great lovefests emanated from our endeavors. Each side brought something, yet were pretty blind of how the other half worked. Much as a marriage. In every discussion in the field, they would put forth the conundrum de jour and it would be more or less knocked about like a tennis match until it was seen by all that the ball now bounced all the time on our court. We would pronounce it solved, but it just meant they left the rest to us.
This never happens any more. It has become death for a designer of complex systems to admit we have left their area of expertise and are existing in ours. So many think they are smart in things they barely understand just because they are truly expert in their own sphere. That scoundrel Chomsky is a reprobate. I doubt he can fill his own gas tank or change a lightbulb, yet he holds forth as a genius. His Nobel is in what? Linguistics? WTF is linguistics to anyone who can change a lightbulb? We used to call that a degree in knitting. Useful, worthy, but never gonna change the world...lol.
For two academics, you and Neill are great. I agree with both of you 95% of the time. Each of you have said one or two bonehead things I give you credit for because how the heck would you ever know what I know about that? I think the funniest thing about you both is that I find you accurate of so very much and admire you because you had to learn an awful lot I learnt from experience. Things I learnt though sheer having it banged into my head by govt, you guys got while in the cush academia, merely examining data, not fighting the battle down below, which was happening the whole while. Yet you agree with me so very, very much. To a crazy degree. I am more a sensor, not the central processor, in this endeavor.
Having tried to keep a family business alive into the fifth generation in this scummy age, (Founded 2963, in the midst of the Civil War) and still having partial success (I sold out, but when I die they are done. Such men as me are not three a penny). I feel kinship with Elon. It is not strange that he is saying what I've said since before he was ever born. Phrase after phrase are what I've said since I was little, given my Mom and Dad were great geniuses and indeed, amateur philosophers. Govt spending is the true measure of taxation. There is no way around it, Lord Keynes was a dope. Govt will not stop growing unless someone stops it. It has no natural predators. Predators must be created who wish them dead to the same degree they wish us dead. Someone sensible cannot ever stop a maniac. It must always be another maniac. Why do you think the Germans were so afraid of Patton? He looked at war as they did. If they pushed hard, you pushed harder. They screwed him politically but when they almost lost, the first guy they called. Rommel probably didn't pick up the phone...lol.
@zbaktube Says:
I think this is the video where you talk about Hitler's rising. I think you got it wrong.Have you read Theodor Hertzl's works? I mean not just the "Judenstaat". What was his original motivation, why he wanted a Jewish state?
@lcraver4797 Says:
Interesting discussion though I don't agree with Nigel's discussion of one's own death. My wife died nearly 3 years ago and I have had far more problems dealing with that compared to considering my own demise - I've made my will, set up my 2 year old granddaughter's education fund (to which I contribute annually and plan on going on doing so though it's 50-50 at best that I'll see her start there much less graduate). Yet no question I am nearly daily struck by memories of her - including not changing a thing in my bedroom and protecting my children as best I can especially in this Christmas season. Still - this is a very good session with two of my favorite "public intellectuals"
As for Ferguson's comments about Churchill in the 1945 General Election he surely knows that that election is a favorite topic for political science theses = particularly in the contrasts between votes cast in Britain vs votes cast by servicemen overseas. (e.g. quite close in Britain itself, heavily for labour amongst the troops)
@Amusedbutconcerned Says:
People also like bungee jumping.
@Bastiaans18 Says:
I have put this on while trying to sleep. Works great and demontrates why I am rather dumb.
@jackiekunovska8405 Says:
Comforting...sort of
@jackiekunovska8405 Says:
In my opinion...the Apocalypse in bible...written by humans...is some kind of showing a way of redemption to self and Christian followers...when world situation was at t time very dire....so I agree with Dr Peterson.....it is used again and again in history of man to try find sense and redemption again and again
@troylee7897 Says:
I would like to hear them discuss Terror Management Theory in regards to the topic. Sheldon Solomon would be an interesting addition to the conversation.
@jamesbeals8254 Says:
"The End of the World" is make believe.
@itdobelikedat4202 Says:
The problem we have to day is apocalyptic jews destroying western civilization and causing wars
@donaldjamesderrick Says:
11:24 - The Kingdom of God only sounds dull until you try to live it out in this lifetime. And then it turns out to be not dull at all, and for much of the same reason that any form of rehab and therapy leading to real connection, productivity, and active responsibility is not dull.
@AlbertKirilov Says:
One of the few people that struck a cord with "the bolsheviks did it first". He might have been right. And I owe an apology for any early comments, I made.
@SergeantPee Says:
It is no Christian belief that tragedy is a result of sin. Jesus is very clear that misfortune, in the case of say, blindness, is not a result of the sins of the parents.
@michelle5487 Says:
Dr. Peterson with all due respect -
This guy is a douche.
Sincerely,
Michelle
@anuragsinha2013 Says:
Niall Ferguson is not taken seriously in Britain anymore most of his theories about "Positives of the British Empire", his stance on Israel, Capitalism, Rothschild fantasies, Islam, EU, Thatcher, Brexit and Kissinger foreign policy have been debunked and/or not taken seriously by the masses anymore. (Just an observation and not a critique)
The only people who take him seriously are upper class intelligentsia who work in media and have a hatred of Russia or have reservations about China and basically like to dick ride America and see the world through the lens of balance of Power and AMERICA as the best way to achieve their fantasies.
@ALavin-en1kr Says:
Non alignment with reality is the biggest problem.
@ALavin-en1kr Says:
Mr.Ferguson does not believe as you sow you shall reap as that is the way he was raised; eat all the wrong food and get overweight and don’t exercise and see how that works out. As you sow you will definitely reap no matter what any atheist says.
@ALavin-en1kr Says:
The real meaning of apocolapse (the dictionary definition) is not the end of time or of the world but life as it is lived on a daily basis. This word now is taken to mean end times or the end of the world.
@victorjose8336 Says:
El Apocalipsis como lo creemos conocer no lo llegaremos a ver nosotros pero si como cada día habrán graves disturbios a nivel mundial por las grandes desigualdades entre una parte de la población cada vez más rica y codiciosa y una amplia mayoría ( lógico ) cada vez más pobre que naturalmente será vista como la mala y delincuente por este sistema podrido y corrupto.
@dianefester9663 Says:
R8lidiculous to even suggest that heaven could become boring. Our problem is simply our limited conception. As God says, my thougts are n9t y9ur thoughts, mine are so much higher than yours as the heaven isclfrom ea4th
@arlenegojocco7518 Says:
Great discussion and insights! I learned a lot especially about the Law of Unintended Consequences. Thanks to you both!
@carlkelly2900 Says:
Brilliant discussion
@Cerdinok Says:
The essence of morality is loving one’s neighbor as himself in service of the Highest. Oppenheimer was immoral because he loved himself so much, he was willing to make an instrument of mass destruction against his neighbor.
The essence of immorality is believing one is so good, he must teach others a lesson. Call it narcissism, call it psychopathy.
It takes a mortified man to throw himself on God’s mercy.
When one loves himself so much, he believes there is nothing evil in him to be saved from. When he hears that the Most High may have given mercy to his neighbor, he is angered because he cannot fathom that God gives mercy to those who never could deserve mercy.
He cannot fathom that those receiving the free gift of mercy know that they do not deserve mercy. He cannot see that wicked sinners must be elected by God to receive mercy because *they don’t deserve it.*
That is why Scripture says that the believer had full trust in the God “who is reckoned to him as righteousness.” The believer must be chosen because he cannot choose himself. He cannot himself choose to receive righteousness if he believes he already has it.
And by definition, righteousness is knowing the Most High, loving him, and following him. Who can do that by himself? He must have full faith in him who is reckoned to him as the righteousness he should crave because he can’t love God with his whole heart, mind, and strength alone. That is what “elect” means: God *chooses* to give us love because we cannot.
“I am elect” means “I am a sinner.”
It is a blow to ego, it is love of one’s neighbor.
@Cerdinok Says:
The kingdom of God has no beginning or end. The Lord reigns now and ever. We somehow misunderstand God’s merciful patience with man’s rebellion against him as if there is no kingdom of God at all.
However, the Lord is here. His kingdom does come with frequent visitations. Remember the Invincible Armada against Reformed, faithful England? Why pine for the Marxian destruction of everything in an end of the world?
Remember, when the Lord shall come in glory with a rod of iron in hand, the end of the world is in new life of the resurrection of the dead, of everlasting union with Christ in the Wedding Supper—and the new skies and new earth of wonder unweened.
Marxism is materialist because it is antichrist. It denies Christ’s everlasting kingdom. Therefore, it denies the eternal and denies the resurrection to everlasting life. It insists the delusion that all existence is material, which is to stay that dust is all there is. But if we are dust and only dust, we are already dead.
@Cerdinok Says:
Is it so much quasi-religion or rather psychopathic delusion?
@JohnBennett-d3u Says:
On the narative of overreaching which is touched upon in this conversation, I feel it is important for an individual to sometimes overreach in order to see their limitations which in turn leads a person to face and embrace humility.
@Crozier777 Says:
Sci fi is so dystopian because they’re so Godless. It’s not exciting. I’ve read the Dune series. It was depressing. The Lord of the Rings, however, was an exciting trilogy that reflects Christianity in many ways.
@TheAirSchool Says:
This made me think about non western contemporary babels and non western contemporary gigantism.
@TheAirSchool Says:
Well Isis e much more than the queen of the underworld. She is also daughter of the queen of heavens and - just like Mary - a healer, not exactly chaos
@BofaDeezKnights Says:
I like when Jordan Peterson makes himself manifest in my YouTube feed.
@Paeoniarosa Says:
I get tired of Dr. Peterson's constantly trying to see things through the lens of Christianity.
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