This episode was recorded on October 26, 2021.
Dr. David Buss and I discuss his groundbreaking work in evolutionary psychology. Our conversation forays into human mating practices & strategies, female preferences, dominance hierarchies, (fe)male aggression, emotional regulation & status, the dark triad (narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy), inherent inequality, and much more.
Dr. David Buss is a professor of psychology at the University of Texas who has also taught at Harvard and the University of Michigan. He is considered the world's leading expert on human mating strategies and is one of the founders of the field of evolutionary psychology.
His books include The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating, Evolutionary Psychology: The New Science of the Mind, The Dangerous Passion: Why Jealousy is as Necessary as Love and Sex, The Murderer Next Door: Why the Mind Is Designed to Kill, and Why Women Have Sex.
Get Dr. Buss' latest book, When Men Behave Badly: The Hidden Roots of Sexual Deception, Harassment, and Assault:
https://amazon.com/When-Men-Behave-Badly-Harassment/dp/B08ZT82RH6/ref=sr_1_2?qid=1642690863&refinements=p_27%3ADavid+Buss&s=books&sr=1-2
& previous works: https://amazon.com/Books-David-Buss/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3ADavid+Buss
Follow Dr. Buss on Twitter: https://twitter.com/profdavidbuss
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Chapters
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[00:00] Intro
[02:09] Career Background
[06:50] Human Mating Strategies
[09:18] Patriarchy & Mating
[10:52] Female Preferences & Resource Acquisition
[14:54] Sexual Selection Theory: An Overview
[25:23] Patriarchy: Origins
[27:36] (Dominance) Hierarchies
[40:20] Women & the Dark Triad (Narcissism, Machiavelianism, & Psychopathy)
[57:59] Attention & (Fe)male Selection
[01:04:24] Violence
[01:07:47] Emotional Regulation & Status
[01:13:59] Disturbing Ethical Conclusions
[01:20:25] (Fe)male Aggression
[01:23:29] Monogamy & Violence
[01:28:30] Inequality
[01:33:40] Why Strategies Differ
[01:42:45] Outro
#Evolution #Hierarchies #Patriarchy #Violence #Gender #Monogamy
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What about those of us who did, in fact, pick the wrong partner? I guess we are behind on sexual evolution thing, at best… Oops, asking for a friend.
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@o0oo888oo0o Says:
We still need an 8 hour version dear Mr. Peterson, dear Mr. Buss.
@mikeroche8544 Says:
1:08:00 REPUTATION SAVAGING LIE , well it MUST WORK or why would they do it?!!
@bojanmisic9295 Says:
So two men now what women need want etc?!
@SapiensofSriLanka Says:
Yes true I am from Sri Lanka , DB has greatly influenced me
@pietrasantiagoo Says:
👏🏻👏🏻
@jeffn1384 Says:
It's a shame that many of the topics and views covered cannot be expressed in mixed company (mixed means gender, age, political persuasion) without getting shouted down.
Imagine telling some pro feminist anti patriarchal types that men are like they are because that's how women have made them through their mate choices over the millennia. Can't wait to try it !
@samaria3843 Says:
Men decieve unprovoked with confidence knowingly thats why inexperienced women can be attracted to these men....they are also conditioned by men and trusting older women follow these men.
@MauriceOConnor-t3s Says:
Jordan, your enthusiasm and knowledge is brilliant however your interrupting is frustrating, many times your guest didn't have the chance to finish his thoughts.
@swurvling Says:
great discussion, very insightful!
But did Dr.Buss really say "bye Gordan" in the end??😅
@yeonakim858 Says:
Man its been 3 years already . When's that relatively near future?
@yuvalchernihov1938 Says:
27:35 i feel that a healthy balance can be achieved where men do care about resources but only enough that would provide for the female and the offspring and have the energy to spend time with them also giving them the emotional support, like having an average salary enough to make a living should be enough as long as your also dedicating time and care to your spouse and offspring , people who are too much career oriented might neglect their child and people who cant care for themselves would not be able to care for family
@mimi1girl2dempsey3 Says:
Humans are both irrational and predictable at the same time.
@KathleenTonnesen Says:
Excellent interview and information to digest. Thank you! - kt
@kennyx8482 Says:
Dr Buss, i just think you are a remarkable human being. thank you so much...from sri lanka
@kennyx8482 Says:
23:35 y the FUCK is it difficult to get a study through that simply asks a question in public and a reponse to that...nobody is being raped ...fkng ridiculous that its difficult to do such a study.
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@Legladiteur Says:
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@iitiim200 Says:
Excellent
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🎯 Key points for quick navigation:
📊 Research reveals significant IQ disparities, highlighting cognitive inequality and its societal impacts.
👨🔬 Discussion on gender-based evolutionary selection: men are favored for competence, women for fertility.
📚 Dr. David Buss, a pioneer in evolutionary psychology, shares the influence of Darwinian principles on human mating behavior insights.
🌍 Women universally prefer resource-abundant men: resource access as mating criteria indicates evolutionary motivations.
🎯 Sexual selection theory suggests mating traits evolve for success, emphasizing competition and natural attraction.
👫 Mutual mate selection predominant in humans, with women choosier due to higher reproductive investment risk.
💑 Varied human mating strategies identified: long-term pair bonding, casual hookups, and cultural polygamy practices.
🔬 Evidence shows women prefer intelligence in partners, maintaining selectiveness across different relationship contexts.
👩🔬 Women tend to be more selective when it comes to short-term sexual partners compared to men, reflecting a significant difference in sexual attitudes.
💔 A sociosexuality inventory shows that men are generally more comfortable with the idea of sex without love compared to women.
📊 Discussions on patriarchy highlight its complex causal origins and link to female mate preferences and male strategies focused on resource acquisition.
🏆 Competence and benefit conferral, rather than domination or infliction of costs, are key factors for attaining status within groups.
🤝 Generosity and the ability to punish free riders are important traits in acquiring high status, often linked to reciprocity and cooperation.
🦁 The "Dark Triad" traits—narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy—are discussed in relation to attraction and status dynamics.
👩🎓 Younger women may initially be attracted to individuals showing Dark Triad traits due to a lack of experience in distinguishing true competence from feigned competence.
📚 An evolutionary perspective provides insight into relationships and status formations, challenging simplistic views of patriarchy and dominance hierarchies.
📈 Diverse status hierarchies in society allow individuals with various talents, like video gaming or sports, to gain social recognition and status outside traditional hierarchies.
🏆 Multiple hierarchies provide more opportunities for individuals to excel, suggesting a critique of viewing power as a singular patriarchy.
😈 Dark triad traits like psychopathy are characterized by a lack of empathy and resistance to punishment, impacting social and interpersonal relations.
👫 Disagreeableness in men can be challenging; women seek balance between agreeableness for bonding and disagreeableness for practical toughness.
🏍️ Younger women may be attracted to risk-taking behaviors of dark triad men, but these traits are detrimental for long-term relationships.
👑 Women who mature tend to avoid dark triad individuals due to their increased risk of infidelity and deception.
🔬 Sex differences in mate selection emphasize physical attractiveness for female status due to evolutionary preferences linked to fertility cues.
💡 Recognizing biological underpinnings of human behavior, such as status-related emotions, offers a realistic approach to understanding human nature.
🌍 Evolutionary Perspective: The discussion explores how adaptations must link to survival or reproduction rather than just psychological states unless those states contribute to evolutionary success.
📚 Theorist Critique: Becker is critiqued for not acknowledging Jung and for proposing that human endeavors are fabrications to escape mortality, which is seen as partly misleading.
🌟 Sex Differences: There's insight into how men prioritize physical attractiveness and women prioritize status/resources, leading to mutual objectification concerns.
📈 Hierarchy's Roots: Status hierarchies are shown as evolutionarily ancient, deeply ingrained beyond societal constructs like capitalism.
🦞 Biological Comparison: Status hierarchies are likened to those in animals, such as lobsters, to illustrate natural dominance and serotonin's role across species.
🤔 Value Differentiation: Humans value individuals differently based on attributes like competence and benefit potential, sparking debates on equality.
🔪 Aggression Insights: Young males show early signs of physical aggression, influenced by socialization and peaking during reproductive competition.
🧠 Intelligence Assortment: Assortative mating for intelligence can increase variance in offspring, potentially boosting social inequality.
👫 Male vs. Female Hierarchies: There are fundamental differences between male and female social hierarchies, with male hierarchies being more transparent and easier to navigate for men.
👁🗨 Women's Social Perception: Women are generally better at decoding non-verbal cues and understanding social dynamics, such as relationships, due to evolutionary needs.
💭 Mind-Reading Abilities: Women may have evolved better abilities to infer psychological states, possibly linked to higher agreeableness and empathic traits.
🤲 Maternal Adaptation: Women's personalities might be adapted for caregiving, emphasizing agreeableness and heightened sensitivity to risk, benefiting child-rearing.
🛡️ Desire for Protection: Historically, women's preference for partners who offer protection remains important, though the need has lessened in modern environments.
📉 Decline in Violence: There's been a long-term decline in homicide rates, though the pandemic saw a temporary spike, highlighting fluctuations in societal safety.
❤️ Evolution of Love: Human evolution includes adaptations for both violence and altruism, with a focus on fostering environments that enhance benevolence.
🌟 Positive Potential: Encouraging environments can suppress negative traits and highlight positive, benefit-conferring aspects of human nature.
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@WilliamKirkland-j4r Says:
These boys need to spend a bit of time with a series of experienced Male Bar Tenders. Those guys will let you know about their observations of Women spotting a 'desirable' man and don't hesitate to have a go that very night. Frequently, a gal will come with one man and leave with another.
@3r2w1c Says:
One woman and multiple men is what the united states government funded with welfare, and it's widespread across america. Mostly among african american women and multiple partners, different fathers. So it doesn't sound rare at all.
@Solutionsarejustcompromises Says:
Why this talk doesn’t have like 15m views is beyond me. Watch any dating show after this and you’ll see things in a perspective you can’t unsee anymore.
@yurigansmith Says:
Excellent talk.
@ZuZu_Petals Says:
13:05 it's too simple. Let's make it more complex
@FulaneDeTal-v4y Says:
I read When MEN Behave Badly and although I believe it was a fascinating read, I wonder why it wasn't titled When HUMANS Behave Badly...
@arnoldmullins8475 Says:
People are worlds apart in many ways.,And finding a good choice is a key element; especially when you desire ethical differences
@arnoldmullins8475 Says:
I am learning, but this video is very insightful., for today's World
@user-lc5km9xs5c Says:
I'm waiting for the video on boundary and privacy violations.
@user-lc5km9xs5c Says:
Facts are not unpleasant. They're just facts.
@Vanuska1980 Says:
Being stupid is the same as being dead. You don’t know it, its just painful for those around you.
@danieldover3745 Says:
Man I love the comment about "resources as proxy for traits," I keep thinking of the romance story trope of the rich spoiled prince vs the darkly beautiful knight. If we assume women genuinely want resources the most, the heroine would choose the spoiled brat prince, but instead, they always favor the muscled, strong-willed, ambitious and dangerous knight, despite the fact that he has far fewer resources currently. It's metastable: his greater charisma and ambition will likely see him overthrow the weak, soft princeling, but the romance novel doesn't think that far ahead, or even extrapolate to that point. It's just the girl falling for "the poor bad guy" over the "rich brat."
@RobertSchaefer-nl4xp Says:
I guess the ultimate conclusion would be that women are drawn to whoever is getting the most attention in the moment. That can change in an instant.When you have those moments, bang the whole herd like it is the spoils of war. Ha
@RobertSchaefer-nl4xp Says:
Its a gift to the world to get inside the minds of these two geniuses. But, these studies are all based on what women say, not what they actually think or do. Ha
@bobwallace7487 Says:
Being able to access these brilliant human beings is such a blessing. My life grows through the wisdom of others, and it makes me hungry for more. All topics! Dr. Peterson your public path might sting in a few areas….i am grateful for you.
@dmimz7691 Says:
Imagine being paid to just spit bullshit over and over….
@bethellingworth7814 Says:
Idi Amin - Uganda - 1971 to 1979. Absolute nutter!
@angelterziev6363 Says:
Amazing guest Jordan, thank you. I would suggest to reduce the interruptions towards the guests a little bit, because your guest could not finish many of the thought streams he strated to verbalize.
@elsW123 Says:
On women's choosiness: is there sufficient robust scientific research into, and are you taking account of, the cultural and psychological pressures exerted on women, cross-sectionally and longitudinally through time and space (I mean historically and geographically), when making sexual choices? My impression is that you're massively over-inflating the element of choice, and that what women prefer and what women actually feel socially and/or psychologically compelled to do (especially in scarcity) are completely different realities. I love the notion of history being a long breeding programme of women selecting reproducible men and laughed aloud about the suggestion that we women could choose to breed out patriarchy (by which I understand, in short, male, or masculine, dominance of most domains) by choosing weaker mates. But I fear that this is as disempowered a position as your wife, Jordan, feels the feminist position to be. I'm concerned that your under-estimation of psycho-socio-cultural factors (yes, I'm a leftie; yes, in a nutshell I imagine I'm talking about power – but also about dearth of decent mating options if we seek in a mate, for example, physical strength, practical skills and mental acuity as well as wisdom, kindness and compassion) has really, really grave implications for ideologies founded on only partially understood phenomena and therefore quite flawed premises. There is archeological evidence of female hunters in prehistoric civilisations. Were these rare exceptions? Are we sure about that? I think we know that women with equal opportunities develop similar (or is it higher?) competencies to our male counterparts? Aside from physical limitations during pregnancy and raising infants, to what extent is our choice of mate really based on actual or potential resource provision? In less patriarchal societies, present and past, were we pregnant or lactating for most of our years of child-rearing age, or were we in fact choosy in being free to say no to sex (or enact natural contraception methods)? In all of this, to what extent is our post-Classical reality representative of our much longer global cultural evolution? I think that it is not, and that your lenses have much too narrow a field of vision, in every dimension.
@rumannkoch Says:
Divorce, especially a nasty contested one, must be a high trigger for emotional disregulation for a man as he is publicly humiliated, whereby his competence as a man (husband, father) has been critically undermined, thus peaking his homicidal ideation.
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