Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and journalist David Zweig discuss his role in breaking the Twitter Files, government censorship in society, the extent to which lockdowns were effective, how they affected children in particular, and how one renegade church would not bow to overzealous regulation.
David Zweig is a writer and journalist, with multiple books published, such as 'Invisibles' in 2014 and the upcoming 'Abundance of Caution' that centers on the effects of the COVID-19 response on schools and children. He was also one of the journalists who helped break the Twitter Files, focusing on the suppression of information to the satisfaction of the U.S. government and the public health establishment.
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(0:00) Coming up
(1:16) Intro
(1:51) The role of the media
(3:25) How Zweig joined the Twitter Files team
(5:02) Parameters of the investigation
(6:00) Determining relevance
(9:39) Why Zweig chose to tackle lockdowns
(14:13) Having solid stories turned down
(18:44) Bari Weiss, willing to listen
(21:53) What the suppression of voices on Twitter means
(26:23) Public trust in vaccines before the pandemic
(30:45) The biological parallel
(33:00) Overt focus on the pathogen left us blind to the side effects of our response
(35:43) 'Stay in your lane'
(30:42) The problem of having too many options
(41:58) Why we have natural, inalienable rights
(47:55) Early data that was completely ignored
(49:52) Weighing risk against value
(53:45) An astonishing lack of curiosity
(54:40) The evidence based hierarchy: where expert opinion ranks
(57:30) The censorship at Twitter exposed
(59:57) Some censorship is not unreasonable
(1:00:30) Psychology of troll behavior
(1:02:56) The few can corrupt the whole
(1:05:22)The job of a journalist is NOT to draw the line
(1:07:26) Authoritarian information control
(1:13:43) Confusing a model with actual data
(1:14:52) The error in 'techno-solutionism'
(1:18:07) The places that stayed closed and those left outside
(1:22:22) Critical well being dispensed over assumptions
(1:25:10) Asking questions makes YOU the pathogen
(1:27:08) Spying on church members, millions in fines
(1:31:50) Rapidly diminishing returns across time
(1:33:22) The truly affected are those who lost their support systems
(1:35:35) Chasing the truth is both destabilizing and energizing
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Is tackling risk as a whole not something similiar to the idea of trying to tame the leviathan of chaos.
@gioiamiafumagalli184 Says:
Why does Jordan Peterson keep interrupting his guest?
@jaspergabriels8933 Says:
those lockdowns made me chronic sick :(
@alyssawoodman Says:
My jaw dropped when David mentioned the lack of resources and support for people handling autistic children. My son is Autistic and was completely ignored by the medical system both before Covid and after. It took applying for a private grant through a charity organization to gain funding for the Autism assessment. He has now been diagnosed and is receiving assistance. No thanks to the "free" healthcare in Canada.
@thomasnissen3550 Says:
But why where people not allowed to go to churches specifically?
Neither Jordan nor David really gives an answer to this, do they?
If one should be a bit conspiratorial, one could say it's because faith in God and an afterlife gives you a courage and a strength that a fascist government doesn't want you to have, but I don't know if that's the reason :/
@justanamerican3007 Says:
How timely. It was confirmed to me by a state legislature that masks and lockdowns are coming back…..in the next month or so.
@83licata Says:
Great show, David's excitement and enthusiasm is coming through the screen. There was a 3 letter agency, not the FB* took the information helm from these social media companies and the legacy media during 2020( and still have it). Matter of fact this agency started controlling the narrative as a result of the 2016 Presidential race, they couldn't believe Trump won!
@Alien_at_Large Says:
I can't listen to any more of Zweig. He's SO excited about how great he is, and he doesn't answer questions.
@flashhamster3881 Says:
I 😮 my😮
@nonamerequired123 Says:
Hey what lockdowns Jordy? You live in Canada, lockdowns(brought in by the Provincial Governments, majority of whom are Tory) were lifted over a year ago. Get over it. You and the rest were WRONG about everything you said.
@andrews5320 Says:
Please keep talking about this. So many of us were taken in by the narrative and still today some believe that the government was perfectly acting in the best interests of the population during the COVID hysteria.
@ab9957 Says:
You have no right to assume that I have a blizzard of shit coming out of my pie hole and block my ability to breathe the air in front of my face, like i have no right to assume that you're a nazi pedophile.
@leon3283 Says:
David's energy is infectious! Bravo for all the courage and effort during one of the darkest times of our age. This is what journalism should be. Thank you!
@chrys77cross Says:
PLEASE INTERVIEW a Grace Church representative. John MacArthur.
@ibelieve3111 Says:
Hey
@bettyjaneantanavicius9800 Says:
Great conversation!
@evphex Says:
I really like David.
@markcampbell7577 Says:
There is more than two opinions regarding vaccines. The media was wrong and crazy is not only other opinion.
@markcampbell7577 Says:
Nurses and doctors could not stop the supreme court decisions regarding vaccines. Their opinion was not heard in court or on television.
@markcampbell7577 Says:
The danger of vaccines that maybe using cell lines for medicine and are contaminated with PVC leachate causing myocarditis/ ateriosclerosis/polymerization of sugar alcohol and oil in the bloodstream was not stopped even though these dangers are obvious to educated people.
@markcampbell7577 Says:
They are still using acyclovir interferon or interleukin as treatment for AIDS . It is clearly apparent that people are dying of the treatment for AIDS not AIDS. The UN researchers report officially was not delivered regarding the cause of AIDS. Does HIV exist in the absence of epidemiology? We do know a very long list of chemicals and radiation that leave people with AIDS but the epidemiology of a virus is missing.
@markcampbell7577 Says:
Coronavirus was discovered as the cause of Poliomyelitis by Linus Pauling and Jonas Salk. The California State University in San Jose published scanning electron microscopy or photomicrograph of the virus that causes poliomyelitis and it was dubbed coronavirus. The first virus we have ever seen.
@markcampbell7577 Says:
There is no doubt that the coronavirus pandemic could be controlled by Salk vaccine. The coronavirus is the known cause of Poliomyelitis and a novel virus would be be outside of the capability of the Salk vaccine to elicit a functional immune response. The new vaccines are limited to one synthetic spike protein antigen and they are frozen cryogenically frozen or refrigerated vaccines that maybe using cell lines for medicine. There is no reason for this vaccine over the normal vaccine for coronavirus covid-19 Polio pandemics.
@Suphlacki Says:
Thank you for letting this guy free style, he killed it!
@RomaFraserEngler Says:
Amen The God Gene
@spudwesth Says:
Worse is to come. The WHO will control our health care. Our cash and coins will soon disappear ; Trudy will control your bank balance.
@willyamos9180 Says:
I lost my business, was injured by the jab, and have spent the last 12 months recovering from C19. 6 months into the lockdowns I became suicidal. Compromised trust is the understatement of the century.
@joshuawiley7200 Says:
A part of my job during coof was doing filtration studies. I had family members shun me for sharing data regarding masks and their effectiveness at filtering vapors. I even shared OSHA documentation regarding what a dust mask will protect you from and what it will not. Seemed rather obvious to me that the narrative was just plain wrong on that. I think I am still stuck between thinking it was just a poor reactionary response, and wondering if it could have been malfeasance.
@markboggs746 Says:
Why? Covid 19 was part of Agenda 21. The people who control the creation of new money want a one world government (and woke religion) which they control.
@seankelly328 Says:
I love your interviews, I learn from all of them
@fuct9569 Says:
Swag.
@trinitytwo14992 Says:
Its all been obfuscation, manipulation, intimidation, diversion, division, and its all be conscious and deliberate. Its WHO< WEF>UN….NWO agenda. Time to get rid of “corporate entities” that have more rights than humans. Time to arrest board of directs, sieze all assets, revoke business licenses, have trials for Fraud and Crimes against Humanity.
Add all the Politicians who signed off on this garbage, including the Provincial governments, local, Media complicity, Education, Bureaucrats. Its a LONG LIST.
@trinitytwo14992 Says:
How about talking about the WHO power grab NOW, June 2023,
or the May 8, 2023 — the worst, “Comprehensive S…Education Curriculum “ you will be HORRIFIED— being censored trying to post this
@PandaLife-lp8kn Says:
You know who else targets Churches, Children, and the stupidest person next to you?....... 👿devil
@harrymills2770 Says:
They didn't just get a few things wrong. They got EVERYthing wrong. And they crushed anyone who questioned what they were doing, with a full-on censorship blitz the likes of which haven't been seen since Goebbels.
Nobody's been held accountable. I doubt anyone will. It will go down in history as tyranny, genocide, and madness.
@CHRISTINA-cv4ro Says:
Awesome show 👍
@nxtlvh Says:
1:28:59 yeah they got targeted individuals man they spend a lot of money follow us around man they do Street theater it's like bizarro land man you liking it clown world you like I feel like I'm in that movie twin peaks or something man sometimes it's funny I just laugh so they got that goin on out here in
@jeremiahthomaskornder9044 Says:
Dr. Shiva. Look him up.
@zaqwertyfish Says:
I didn't trust the government and experts before COVID. I now view them as a malignant cancer in society.
@Shar1022 Says:
I listen to Dr. Peterson a lot, but, it makes me nervous when he interrupted Mr Zweig.
It was just as he was finishing his sentence, or thought. He doesn’t usually do this. This was a very informative, interesting & enjoyable interview. Thank u for sharing it w/us. 👏👌👍
@ataturu Says:
I have so much respect for real journalists.
@edwardgraham8854 Says:
They are the evil ones they dont care about us
@HerbOMatic Says:
Does anybody know if this guy goes to church?
@ladycactus110 Says:
26:15 We need to give more respect to lone lunatics in their basements.
@ladycactus110 Says:
Wish I had known him sooner. He opened my eyes and heart but I was already past 60. 😑 I have felt so alone.
@womenonthemovefitness Says:
I live in the UK. I work in the fitness industry. They kept fast food restaurants open yet closed my industry down. C0vid mortality risk increased TEN fold if you were obese.
@sherry5107 Says:
Jordan, thank you very much for continuing to give us some free youtube content from your Daily Wire paid podcasts. I feel like you heard me when I asked you to please not take away your free content and make us pay for your wisdom. Thank you so much! It is nice to feel heard (even if you ddin't do it simply because I pled the case for us single mothers, and for people in poverty who wouldn't be able to afford to learn further from you). I just can't say thank you enough for continuing to let us glean from you and your wisdom. As always, I love you and your heart, mind, and soul for being who you are. May God continue to bless you, and your precious family, immensely!
@janpeterbaark7540 Says:
I used to be fascinated by Jordan Peterson who seem to be quite erudite and entertaining. Videos like this with a conceived person like David Zweig, who thinks he can talk about the highly complex subject of an epidemic without any education in epidemiology, shows that both may be suffering from the Dunning-Krueger effect. It’s particularly alarming considering that Jordan Peterson is a psychologist with a scientific career behind him.
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