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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. Peter Attia discuss healthspan, lifespan, obesity, the profound difference simple changes can make, diseases such as cancer and diabetes, and realistic ways you can actively work toward a higher quality of life.
Dr. Peter Attia is a renowned physician and longevity expert, specializing in metabolic health and performance optimization. With a background in mechanical engineering and a medical degree from Stanford University School of Medicine, Dr. Attia brings the principles of Medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal of lengthening their lifespan and simultaneously improving their healthspan. Through his podcast, "The Drive," and his website, he shares insights on longevity, nutrition, and human performance. Possessed by his passion for helping individuals achieve optimal health, he combines science, data analysis, and personalized care to inspire others to prioritize metabolic health and lead fulfilling lives.
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:11) Intro
(1:23) Lifespan v. healthspan
(5:18) Cognitive decline and exercise
(10:30) Why exercising is difficult to start
(12:10) The benefit from going zero to three hours a week
(14:33) Setting positive behaviors
(17:36) Weightlifting and Cardiovascular exercise
(20:33) Grip strength is a great marker for life span
(22:03) Sarcopenia: loss of muscle mass due to age
(23:10) Rucking as a means to bypass cardio plateaus
(25:20) The best exercise for your lower body
(26:00) Eccentric strength: why the elderly fall
(27:37) Working up to height
(28:47) Diabetes, metrics of testing
(32:13) Decline in insulin sensitivity
(35:01) The difference between healthy and nearly dying
(38:47) What your eye doctor can see
(41:34) How much fat your body can actually store
(45:30) In awe of the liver, how glucose is stored in fat
(48:01) The food pyramid was not produced by scientists
(50:35) The Standard American Diet is SAD
(54:04) Are all calories created equal?
(58:23) Arthritis and diet
(1:00:01) Scientific literature on the carnivore diet
(1:02:41) Restrictive diets, weight loss and inflation
(1:09:09) Appetite and endurance on restriction diets
(1:11:52) Concentration benefits
(1:14:35) Cancer hits its peak first
(1:16:57) What's happening when cancer spreads, self v. non self
(1:20:14) What you can do about cancer prevention
(1:24:12) The challenge in optimal screening
(1:27:32) Lesser known drivers for cancer
(1:29:05) Almost no research funding goes towards prevention
(1:30:51) Where should the resources go?
(1:33:30) Youth and exercise, standing desks
(1:34:37) The system does not do what the name says it does
(1:35:33) Emotional health and longevity
(1:37:33) Fear, lockdowns, and mental impact
(1:38:46) Self care
(1:41:04) Through the lens of a patient
(1:43:05) Self Authoring and Future Authoring
(1:46:30) A three pronged plan for healthspan
(1:47:31) The marginal decade exercise
(1:49:18) You need a reason to change
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Am I the only one who thinks he's pronouncing Dr Attia's name incorrectly? If so, his guest is very polite about it
@PetraGoldberg Says:
Carnivores have the shortest lifespan. Plant - eaters live way longer. And we are just average animals.
@KGG2 Says:
Jordan Peterson has zero education or expertise in the area
@jeffburke170 Says:
Listen to smart ppl who can say "I don't know".
@georgiamk8469 Says:
Thanks!
@marjorietuck9324 Says:
Fantastic Interview! MarJie Australia
@dennisskey9546 Says:
One month of doing Lion Diet, 1. stop snoring 2.recovery from workout 70% less time. 3. Focus higher. 4. Food craving gone. 5. Sleep better. 6. started at 278 . 30 days 248.
@SpenderDebby-x6n Says:
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@chrisn7188 Says:
Kettlebells
@MaryJones-d7e Says:
Young Amy Brown Richard Williams David
@Sec_coach Says:
Dude knows
@Candleflower42-zp3sh Says:
Is Attia pronounced with emphasis on A as Jordon says it or the t, which is how I’ve always heard it?
@williamking5063 Says:
Opinions make people weak and cancel reality to protect their opinion. If reality has only truth and lying in it, so what is compromise? Compromise is the mixing of truth and lying together so no one lives by truth. This is what the bible does under the word interpretation.
@williamking5063 Says:
The Gov’t fears truth people the most and so Tyrants of old gave them a God that is responsible for making man with free will, but God takes no responsibility for man’s sinning. If a man makes a motor and the motor runs bad or sins, whose fault is it? The motors fault or the creators fault? In fact, the bible God kills all men that sin and don’t believe in Jesus. Its man’s fault for free will? No. God has his perfect son Jesus killed by his free will sin creation man so man can be forgiven. Punish the innocent for what the guilty man does? Is that Justice?
@ddevulders Says:
I am a recovering alcoholic that ran into an issue once my relationship stranded. I knew I was in trouble once my relationship ended. I felt my brain doing the same gymnastic that kept my substance abuse alive. and so I decided to transfer my addiction to a hyper focus on going to the gym. I have been going so hard for 9 months at this time that I am actually incredibly impressed with my progress.
There were times where my grief was so harsh I did my routine twice because I still didn't feel like I was at my baseline. And it saved my life. I didn't care about the muscle or the progress I just wanted to be so exhausted I could sleep and I've been able to progress beyond my peers and way beyond people doing it for years because of luck in genetics.
Please work out, just feel that capability of yourself and grow. It's worth it.
@ginacardarella Says:
Something here not mention is walking also helps your mind especially by your self a little bit of meditation goes a long way question are you saying walking slow but far has no real benefit??
@staceyguynup22 Says:
Bart Kay would be a good one for them to talk with
@staceyguynup22 Says:
He needs to chat with Ben Bikman or Ken Berry or others who have delved into the biological and paleological reasons why the meat only works, and is who we are as a human mammal.
@AnneCubitt Says:
please let your guest speak!!!!
@MariahCB-y2z Says:
Do stairclumber too and skip steps
@PeakPerformanceHacks1 Says:
ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.
@LM-jd1ww Says:
Follow "Chris Beat Cancer". He has lived past expectation of colon cancer....
@LM-jd1ww Says:
I have never felt better since I went carnivore. It was not hard to do. I have no cravings. I ear till I am full for breakfast and dinner).
@rgarcia7392 Says:
Thank you, Dr. Peterson.
@TheBBHB2023 Says:
Could Jordan's optimal muscle and weight loss and reduced inflammation be due to steroids in the meat?
@ernestom2059 Says:
Not yet
@MG_118 Says:
I only eat human meat. It’s helped immensely.
@glenanson6963 Says:
You are talking about early detection. It is not prevention.
@stefanogrillo1570 Says:
I respect Peterson though he seems to be overly infatuated with fame and money. That's the only explanation I can think of for interviewing someone like Attia, who was a staunch supporter of vaccination, and unlike people like say Luigi Fontana (or even Valter Longo) has no credentials in research on nutrition. He's just a famous guy (and full of bs as far as I am concerned)
@TravelerAlexander Says:
Im a 36m. I quit eating bread, pasta, rice and potatoes. I eat mainly meat, vegetables, fresh fruit, and dairy. I still drink milk. I occasionally drink stevia or erthyrotol based sweets or drinks. I work out 5 days a week. Over 1 month ive seen the fat slowly start melting away, showing my abs underneath. Ive never been overweight, but i was starting to put some fat on my abd and sides, even with going to the gym. Eliminating those items from my diet has me not only losing fat but feeling better. I very much recommend it to anyone who wants to lose weight, and you will start seeing results after just one month. Its a diet that you have to commit to long term. It's not that hard. I try to eat mainly meat when I'm hungry, and then if I have a sweet tooth after I eat some fresh fruit or an alcohol sugar snack. I drink sugar free caffeine drinks for energy as Im a nurse who works 12 hour night shifts.
@erickotlyarov2724 Says:
Crazy that Jordan had this much research into the questions he’d be asking but couldn’t be bothered to look up how his guest’s last name is pronounced. Obviously it’s a small detail compared to the content of the video which was incredibly valuable but just found that surprising especially since most of Peter’s content is found on YouTube or other audio media (Spotify etc.).
@coachjimmyers878 Says:
My 3rd time watching this powerful, impactful interview between two giants in legitimate self improvement.
7 servings of desert slip up admission / confession by Dr. Attia while on Keto years ago. Thank you for allowing for this transparency - certainly adds to your credibility.
@mariaciupac3522 Says:
Big pharma will never allow cancer to be treated bc they make too much money . Change your diet first and there will be no cancer. Look 50 years ago no cancer now bc of the food , polluted air, chemicals in everything, synthetic meds from China we all get cancer. The west need common sense
@mrporsche4236 Says:
90% of my patients that have passed on were keto or carnivore. The ones that listened and got educated are still alive. This is my statistic for the last 22 years. So not an opinion but a statistic. Your choice
@marianneszymaniak6758 Says:
Dr Jordan Peterson should look into detox and cleansing. Dr Bryan Ardis could help him understand the symptoms. When you cleanse and remove toxins from your body, you are going to get symptoms. It doesn't mean it's permanent. Sometimes, it means that your body is in the process of removing some toxins, and you need greens to help clear it through your blood. Things like milk thistle can support the liver in this process. Symptoms dont mean illness.
@JR-bj3uf Says:
Americans are unhealthy, why? I walk through Sam's Club and noticed the pallets of cookies, chips and snacks that make up the bulk of the middle of the store and these thing sell. It's big business to fuel obesity and these products are churned up in mass. We have become really good at churning out tasty snacks that are bad for you as much as they are desirable.
@MrJones-we8to Says:
How about death of despair including smoking??
@Lesanacom Says:
Dr Peterson, would you consider putting together a weight exercise program for a beginner, using dumbbells. An a progression chart. Using one hour as a time window?🌸
@Reka-l4i Says:
Change your diet change your mind by Dr Georgia Ede
@1969spp Says:
Very good conversation here. Excellent information.
@cleoburrows Says:
I wish they would have given examples on how one can motivate themselves to exercise. I need to do weights to increase my strength and bone health, but I hate doing weights. I don't know how to motivate myself to start. I don't have a negative view of myself either, like Dr. Attia mentioned.
@chucknorris3558 Says:
Didn't know Jeff Bezos was so smart.
@CazalasMichele Says:
63 year old female, carnivore for 7 months and I feel great! Low Triglycerides and high HDL, LDL is not important as doctors believe ❤❤❤
@Dan-qd3rz Says:
Stick to it ed, it's not a diet its a way of life, I personally think you won't look back if you look at the studies. I personally, do carnivore/keto/Mediterranean. All low carb. No shit, no processed foods or sugars
@petercyr3508 Says:
If you want to maintain cognitive health, be in a well fed ketogenic state. Our huge brains need ketones along with glucose.
Exercise with a crappy diet is useless.
@RimJobJesus369 Says:
I am exercising my man meat... for the Lord
@Jay-h9d9h Says:
x3 bar is better than dumbells
@wayned3375 Says:
Every building in built up areas would be clad with materials proven to take pollutants out of the air walls would be built of the same material money from ulez needs to go into that not a tax to make rich richer. Every business should be required to have a gym onsite if over a certain size and maybe some equipment no matter the size encouraged group walks and working canteens needs to come back into work places. Vegetables should be free with so much shopping so everyone puts some fresh produce in their baskets locally produced foods in community’s gardens and uv gardens
@georgeindestructible Says:
Good but he failed to explain why people don't want to exercise then, if it is as important as he mentions it would be an evolutionary advantage adaptation, wouldn't it be, thus way more common?
@TheHappyHooker Says:
Jordan please let us know when you have a collaboration of doctors to research the Carnivore Diet. I would suggest Dr. Sean Baker and Dr. Anthony Chaffee. They have been on the Carnivore Diet for several years. Ty
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