Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and former Vice President Mike Pence discuss his current run for the 2024 presidency, the U.S. Government's overreach in economic matters when it should be playing referee, the indoctrination and sexualization of our youngest citizens, the realistic way forward on the Russia Ukraine front, and how we might finally stabilize a nation wrought with cultural warfare.
Mike Pence, an American politician and native Hoosier, served as the 48th vice president of the United States from 2017 to 2021. He previously served as the 50th governor of Indiana from 2013 to 2017, and a member of the U.S. House of Representatives from 2001 to 2013. Before this he practiced private law, led the Indiana Policy Review Foundation, and hosted 'The Mike Pence Show,' a syndicated talk radio show that also aired as a public affairs program on TV once a week. He only recently announced his candidacy for President of the United States, and is currently on the campaign trail.
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:12) Intro
(1:11) Why run now?
(4:11) A return to normalcy, Coolidge
(6:52) The question Democrats won't answer
(11:21) Education, who controls the curriculum?
(14:09) The ability to choose
(18:30) Competition improves quality
(22:28) Hate speech and the incitement of violence
(23:17) Pence's stance on the Russia Ukraine war
(29:46) A good emergency
(30:21) Repel the invasion, post war boundaries
(37:05) Is NATO a threat to Russia?
(42:34) The lack of international respect for the Biden Administration
(43:57) Joe Biden's failure with the Afghanistan withdrawal
(47:23) Those who choose to look strong rather than being strong
(50:13) When Pence last spoke to Putin, 'That can't happen again'
(53:00) One hand outstretched, one on the holster
(54:25) Serving with Donald Trump, and why Pence is running against him
(1:00:19) What a 'Conservative Agenda' means for America and the world
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Love how everyone in the comments is just trashing Mike pence
@sarahsal2 Says:
Watching this in 2024, over a year later- I thought Mike Pence did a great job and was disappointed when he dropped out of the race. He comes from a place of experience and strength and I appreciate how much he loves the Lord.
@zeroxwolfx Says:
The amount of hate this guy gets from Republicans is really telling.
@adamkatz6532 Says:
Didn’t even realize he was running
@jonafaria Says:
i actually appreciate Mr. Pence.
i hope when President Trump wins again
in ‘24 they can be friends~😀
@frankdehobbit8989 Says:
28:03 That is front page news right there. So it was the US after all.
@celeste-236 Says:
The VP had the right to challenge the vote on January 6… Pence buckled.
Trump never put himself before the Constitution…he was betrayed by many Republicans, like Pence, who represent the worst hypocrites in our current political system. The level of corruption at the top, as seen in the way the DOJ is so politicized by their CONTINUAL witch hunt against Trump while they ignore the MANY criminal acts of the Bidens shows how bad off America is right now.
Jordan, your foolish lack of understanding of why Trump was so successful & loved (& will be re-elected)& why he was surrounded by traitors is very disappointing.
@evanbeckert3936 Says:
Mike pence is garbage. But love Jordan
@AlexFlanderzzz Says:
As a Brit that has only watched 30 mins of this interview before continuing, I’m half intrigued, and half disappointed so far… Mike Pence was totally a silent partner as Trump’s VP- and wisely so.
DT was the first Pres since Reagan to not spend a lifetime in career politics before being elected and brought a fresh and brash edge to the two party debate.
That’s why I don’t think MP can compete today- he had the chance to flip his image as former VP, but recycles ancient rhetoric. It’s not enough to be the nostalgia candidate of the 1980s. RFKJr declaring as an independent and not selling out, would be the biggest leap forward in US two-party electoral history…
@DIDDLOTIC Says:
Mike Pence speaks like you typed "typical career politician" into an AI prompt
@a.a8669 Says:
Jordan why did you give this guy the time for an interview ?
This guy is lying about everything he said here..do you not know that?
Pence has defended his role in certifying the results of the 2020 election, saying he's "proud" of what he did on Jan. 6 and declaring there's "almost no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president."
@docd0071 Says:
USA have slowly becoming more and more radically left in the past few yrs to be quite honest, seeing more educational institutions agreeing to fu*ked up rules related to gender equality, homosexuality, transgenderism that even plagued competetive sports, even to a degree of isolating female competition. Indoctrination of the youth to concepts of gender reassignment and the woke movement. During Trumps time, America became more and more of a socialist state culminating to a riot at capitol hill. I mean is there ANY?? candidate who is in the effing middle of the political spectrum?
@marksluimers4241 Says:
This feels like a decent effort to get into the 1972 campaign with a few prepared talking points and catchphrases to connect to the people watching any or all of the three networks on the tele-vision.
Like many commenters noticed before, the difference between this and the RFK junior interview is night and day. This is a career politician. Everything is rehearsed, including the hand gestures. Mr. Pence might be a competent politician and administrator, but this just feels wrong. The wife calling in to check in is pure cringe by the way.
Who is Mike Pence appealing to? Non-upset taxpaying voters that didn't really like Trump but would like to vote Republican?
@davidjewell9197 Says:
Thanks for this information love both you men
@bsun3219 Says:
Mike Pence view on Ukraine makes me nauseate.Also speaking of America as keeper of democracy ,when it is known that most conflicts in the world are initiated by America ,because of its" interests". Thank you dr Peterson for making him uncover all his snakes .When he prays ,probably he communicate with devil.
@acheartist Says:
"We need new leadership in the Republican Party...." Mike Pence We need term limits and Adios to these career politicians. All of them! This happened on your watch, Sir.
@abrahampumarada9532 Says:
mumbo jumbo false as fuck
@karisuomenniemi9177 Says:
Very good talk!
@darthbigred22 Says:
JP proving he really doesn't understand Judas in the Bible or now.
@josephjohnson8473 Says:
Mike Pence is excellent at not answering questions. What a great career politician. 🤢🤮
@alexhuffvn Says:
I like Mike Pence. I'm leaning toward voting for him in the primary.
@jfk-shotbybanksters479 Says:
The one and only country, which is in need of american leadership is the US - no country else - the american exceptionalism or the strange idea that america could be the sole undispensible country in this world is .....vomitingly wrong !
@gdog5130 Says:
Snore
@IosteNesto Says:
Dear Mr. Pence, Shall a Christian conform to this world?
@amym9771 Says:
Surprisingly disappointing interview. Peterson didn’t ask any challenging or in depth questions and Pence stuck to uninteresting programmed answers. Could have spent 5 minutes watching Fox News and learned as much.
@mr.supercar1042 Says:
He honestly keep lying because it is his job
@lobbiedove5014 Says:
Ukraine is US policy. What "predated" this conflict was put in place by us policy as with other countries whereby it was done in the name of "peace". Not a good answer Mr. Pence. Also ruler of the free world with the military is contradictory imho.
@lorih9182 Says:
Pence is a typical career politucian who graduated to treasonous traitor in 2020 (allegedly 😉)
@porschetarga407 Says:
Pence Baloney.
@porschetarga407 Says:
Boo on pence. You did not get January 6th right. Absolutely shame on you. No respect. You were bought by the woke.
@ingriedsiegbert9799 Says:
There is something odd withbhim. I cannot eyplain it. It‘s a feeling. Furthermore, i guess you first have to fix 2020
@jeffschall2062 Says:
When in the face of a protest you ran like a little girl pence, instead of grabbing a bullhorn and talking to the people. You can pound sand son!
@nerforeos675 Says:
A lot of you don't like Pence's stance on Ukraine, but he is correct according to the best geopolitical and military analysts in the world. Regan did the same thing when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. This is just the new "Peace through strength" for 2023. And it works. Right now is not the time for experimental politicians. We have bigger fish to fry than the woke moralists. We are in an existential battle against REAL authoritarians. Like real World War 2 level bad guys.
@marianatoth5125 Says:
... 😎 "american engagement, american leadership" 😎 [READ american ELITE'S *bloody colonialism:* nations *killed,* dumb and dumber *controlled,* earth *poisoned, scorched* ..., - LOOK AT Ukrayina, THAT'S "the american dream" - BLOODY 😎 american 😎 GLOBALISM 👍 .... - 🤣 *don't you love it ???* - what's not to love about *slaving and being jabbed ... in prisom-towns* ... FOR "the american" 😂 deep secret GLOBAL mafia DREAM 🤣🤣👍... , *what's not to love about it ???*
@ronnychristenjoyer6778 Says:
Michael Penice
@NeverComply42 Says:
The mainstream media likes Pence. That's a big red flag.
@xxxanonymousxxx1726 Says:
If it wasn’t for my unwavering trust in Jordan Petersons desire to pursue an honest intellectual conversation, I would’ve sworn I just wasted an hour of my life being courted with the status quo political theater indicative of the mainstream media. Just reeks of a façade.
That being said. I can find myself in agreement with some of the things he said. The problem is, whether intentional or not, his answers are scripted and therefore come across disingenuous. In giving the benefit of the doubt, I can understand how one could fall victim to regurgitating carefully thought out opinions and talking points when campaigning for the Presidency. I imagine every one of us has a somewhat canned response to the repetitive every day interactions we experience in our own lives. Though not on full display for all to critique.
However
MR PENCE, or any other politician whom by chance should happen to read this..
We don’t want to be sold a dream with carefully worded empty promises. We don’t want polished opinions and catchy slogans. We want honesty and integrity delivered without the fear of tiptoeing outside the realm of political correctness, or the constrictions of the conventional format. We want the truth.. Unfiltered and from the hip. REAL. This country belongs to the people, not the politicians. So if you are truly in this for a noble cause. If you truly have conviction in your vision with the confidence, and competence to bring it to fruition. If you truly believe it is in our countrys best interest to hire you to be our voice. Then use that voice to speak to us, not through us. This country is in desperate need of a leader, not a politician…
@debbiehughes48 Says:
BS BS BS
@debbiehughes48 Says:
He’s wrong about Ukraine and Russia! He’s getting money! He’s made trips to ukraine! He’s being PAID! It’s a USA proxy war with Russia using Ukraine! Pense supports the Nazis! Ukraine is losing badly, independent media reports that. Ukraine is taking 14 year old boys out of their mothers homes, sending them to the front lines! This is wrong. He said unprovoked attack by Russia! Ukraine shelled Russias border for 8 years!! Unprovoked?? WTH? This guys a traitor and a joker!! No way he will EVER be President! He can’t be trusted!
@debbiehughes48 Says:
Oh your interviewing the traitor to the American people!! Now look at the mess we are in!! 😡
@Normal-mom Says:
He failed as VP during the last election. All he’s spewing is a bunch of campaign nonsense. I’d rather sit out an election and let the country get worse before voting for another do nothing republican.
@DxV04 Says:
Thanks, Jordan but I will pass on this one!
@shahaman5694 Says:
Thank you for your stance on Ukraine, Mr. Pence.
Dr. Peterson, the notion that Russian people hold more conservative views is a misconception that needs to be debunked definitively. I understand that, like myself, you greatly admire Russian authors and philosophers from the past century. However, we must acknowledge that times have changed, and we are now dealing with an entirely different country that has greatly manipulated its population. Putin's claim of being a "bastion against Wokeism" is a manipulative tactic aimed at both Russians and the Western world. Unfortunately, it seems to be effective. His pursuit of power drives him, and this conflict serves as a means to fabricate a false legitimacy.
America has a power to stop this, and they should act. Allowing Putin to win (however one should define what would be “win” in that complex situation) creates a big and bad precedent for future leaders.
@zb1307 Says:
There is no chance of this stiff winning anything
@elsenored562 Says:
11:22 Peterson: "... The faculties of education in the United States and in Canada have a hammerlock on teacher certification ... which they've done nothing to deserve. ...
12:25 "When you think about strategy to forestall the narcissistic progressive agenda, what sort of strategies do you have in mind that could be employed at the _federal_ level?"
14:18 Mike Pence: "I believe that giving parents the ability to choose where their children go to school — public, private, parochial, or home school — is the cure for what ails education in America."
@scratch57 Says:
may he never obtain public office again.
@MrPerry61 Says:
I hold Pence personally responsible for all the destruction Biden has since his “election”. Pence is a traitor in my opinion.
@keywestfrau Says:
I'm only 6 minutes in and already Pence is talking like a politician!!! Can't he be a normal guy???
@annsolomon5263 Says:
There is a time for shouting......Jesus overturned the tables in the synagogue and angrily threw out the traders! Americans are tired of the old arrogant ideology of America being the world's leader and policemen, while having its compassion abused by other countries. They are paying a heavy price, hurting and they've had enough. They want their leaders to be more focused on HOME. But the politician who understands them is being bullied beyond belief by his own side and the other. Americans are at shouting point, and Pence just doesn't understand his countrymen.
@annsolomon5263 Says:
Americans don't like the OLD normal anymore....they are looking for a new normal.
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