Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Eric Metaxas discuss his most recent book, 'A Letter to the American Church,' which argues a betrayal of faith by those who stay silent in the face of tyranny. They parallel the arbiters of speech across history against those populating today, and detail the responsibility to act against falsehood that is intrinsically present in the Abrahamic tradition, yet increasingly absent in the American church today.
Eric Metaxas is an American author, speaker, and radio host. He has written award winning biographies, such as 'Bonhoeffer,' as well as children's books like 'Squanto and the Miracle of Thanksgiving,' Metaxas hosts Socrates in the City, a recurring popular event where he interviews writers and thinkers on theology, moralism, and philosophy. He also hosts the nationally syndicated Eric Metaxas Show, more broadly referred to as 'The Show About Everything.'
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:20) Intro
(1:17) Writing to Christians
(7:53) Inspired versus instrumented
(11:56) The higher path is present, if not visible
(15:43) Those who arbitrate our speech and thought
(21:08) Takedowns on Youtube, RFK Jr.
(23:13) What's more despicable than the love of money?
(26:54) When you should stake your claim
(34:22) Martin Luther, speak what you believe to be true
(38:57) How do you trust your own judgment in biblical matters?
(39:57) The meaning behind 'don't use the lord's name in vane'
(45:43) Cain and Abel, attempting to fool God
(48:50) An insufficient sacrifice
(51:10) New religion, same devil
(55:14) Holding your tongue when you have something to say
(57:58) The fathomless truth found in scripture
(58:49) You are on the hook for your faith
(1:01:06) When you know the truth and lie
(1:02:24) Why Metaxas became a Christian
(1:04:49) Symbolism in faith, dreams, and visions
(1:13:44) How the acceptance of Christ changes you
(1:17:18) The ultimate loser reigns in Hell
(1:21:59) A positive response from the church
(1:25:06) We are in a battle between good and evil
(1:26:16) What victory will look like
(1:28:37) You cannot remain silent and pretend you are faithful
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Haha! This one was funny. I really enjoyed their interactions. Mr Peterson seems to intellectualize Christianity, while Christians have a deep spiritual, intuitive, faithful and emotional connection to the theology; it was interesting to watch the interplay.
@AwakenedOne-qu Says:
What is a real religion? Does anyone know?
We do know morality and the US doesn't have it.
@eileen-ht7ur Says:
Firsr time God revealed to me He was real and that He is and that He loved me and present in time with me in the here and now. He showing me He was everywhere and all knowing all happening at the same time which being strongly aware God "is" that God "is" changes everything I have ever known and a sense I was lost and now God came to me so I would know Him and not be lost or without Him. In the past, several times I had tried to read scripture and I couldnt understand. After, God revealing Himself not of me, seperate from me I knew in my mind He "is" so I thought maybe now if I try to read the bible that I would understand scriptures and I did and I was able understand what I was reading and saw Jesus in exodus with the first Passover lamb and blood on door post would cover me and angel of death past by as in the account. I believed it was a forshadow or telling of Jesus Christ and to take the blood was faith in action. Like they did in exodus, the people believed what God told Moses and did what God told them and the whole action was of faith believing. How the blood of Christ covers us and His righteousness put to our account. I knew it was nothing of me or did I think this up in my mind or of my knowledge but God and the Spirit and I came to believe in Jesus thru the word and good teachers of the word.
@eileen-ht7ur Says:
Such loftly words and I love scriptures and gospel that a child can understand. The commmand given that we love one another and this they will know you are my disciples and love God with all of our heart soul and mind . Keep in mind Paul said, I recognize no man by the flesh, the indwelling Holy Spirit causes us to be a new creature in Christ Jesus. We dont trust, ourselves if we live in the Spirit in our new nature we will not carry out deeds of the flesh. There's a spiritial battle going on all the time and temptation which we can not live out our faith in Jesus without the power of the Holy Spirit as we have gifts and the fruit of the Spirit not of ourself but its our responses, the way we respond to the truth as we live and other frequent command is to do what is right, do what is right. We find this in scriptures living word, sharper than double edge sword ....able to judge thoughts and intensions of man. Its a real active relationship with God the Father, His Son Jesus and the Spirit who is the Spirit of truth, comforter, counselor and we have the peace that surpasses understanding, the joy of the Lord and we can rejoice and praise God in trials cause we trust God and we know He is faithful. Like, David said, I sought the lord and He heard me and thats why I trust in Him. Jesus said, ask seek and knock and this in prayer and thru His word. Faith comes by hearing and hearing the word of God and be transformed by the renewing of the mind taking every thought captive to the obedence of God. Gods sanctification is life long and will obtain perfect when we are in glory with the Lord. Its not our rightousness but Christ rightousness put to our account. Paul said, I watered , Silas planted but God makes it grow. Its the spiritual effecting the physical.
@eileen-ht7ur Says:
Like King David. A man after God's heart. God didn't remove His Spirit from David after David's sin compared to God removed His Spirit from King Saul after Saul's sin. God knows our hearts. 1 Samuel 16:7
@dwaynebogart7801 Says:
Gotta love you two. Great conversation
@DavidLewis-c2m Says:
Thank you Jordan and Eric, there was a word in your discussion for me🙏💕
@ChrisJansson-g5c Says:
IVE SPENT 5.5 YEARS ON A,I. GIVING. LESSONS TO ALL RELIGIONS. HUGE. AND NEVER. SÀID A. WORD. JORDEN. KNOWS. LOVE. YOU. YETTHE ROOT OF. ALL. EVIL. CFJ. LOL
@ChrisJansson-g5c Says:
TRUEE
@peoplelover2024 Says:
How did I miss this book??? This has been my hearts cry for the past 4 years that we have been embroiled in the hell that is the trans cult with our oldest son. The church has just turned away, "if it doesn't directly affect my life in a negative way, I just turn the other direction". And now, in 2024, almost EVERY Christian has been forced to "deal" with it because it's gotten out of control. Help the families "dealing" with it by STANDING UP FOR TRUTH - EXHAUSTIVELY AND LOUDLY, until the madness is trounced. Help these lost families not to feel alone, which we have been. Completely alone.
@keithmartin6815 Says:
Example #1 when john the baptist was beheaded Jesus did not get involved in politics. #2 when the crowd tried making Jesus king he fled. #3 he came into the city on a mule as the children sand save we pray son of David showing his authority as king #4 he told pilot in answer to his kingship "my kingdom is no part of this world" #5 Daniel 2:44 specifically mentions all the kings being destroyed and gods kingdom standing forever. Examination of these bible answers revealed the truth. As Isaiah 2:2 In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream." Jehovah's witnesses have become the fulfilment because they reject political powers in every country around the world.
@melanieokeefe8870 Says:
I’ve been struggling with the silence of the church. No one could answer my questions. This book confirmed, biblically, everything I’ve been thinking about. Thank you so much!!It is my passion to speak up.
@charlottepatterson2864 Says:
“There’s no Hitler staring us in the face” Dr. Peterson? Surely you don’t deny that the same spirit that energized and moved Hitler is the same one that has resulted in the brutal murder of 63 MILLION pre-born American citizens! Satan has never changed his plan, he only changes his tactics, taking advantage of the circumstances that present themselves. Inevitably though there will eventually be a world leader who will dwarf Hitler. The Bible calls him “the man of sin” (II Thessalonians 2)
@KeithYork-s3r Says:
I like the way he tried to explain how the Holy Spirit/God led him to right the book “A Letter to the American Church”. It is not easy.
@raymondtaylor6049 Says:
What's going on with the tie? 🤔
@timketcham9139 Says:
Concerning his dream, I have had a similar experience which I express as God instilled a knowledge into my being that I cannot deny. It's an absolute truth or reality.
@robertsmock5044 Says:
So many people said that they would never take the vaccine and then when push comes to shove they came in and took it because they would lose their job I lost my job because I refused under the principal it's not their right to tell me what I have to put into my body no one has that right people have to start standing up for themselves The true evil is when good people do nothing in the presence of it and they know better
@robertsmock5044 Says:
Everything he's talking about with the season of power we saw it in the last election and nobody did anything Biden did not win the election but he was placed in office and everyone stood back and it's coming to the point where they're going to do it again
@betzaidadurkin2694 Says:
What is so mystical about the
Holy Spirit revealing to men (Human kind)?
The Holy Spirit, the third person of the trinity is here on this earth to reveal to the soul that seeks and is thirsty.
It's no mysticism, is relationship at the inner core of a soul.
In the book of Psalms David always sang and prayed: "My soul thirst for you, oh God and you answered me"!
Thanks Eric M and
Doctor Peterson for been sensitive to what really matters right at this moment!!
@simonesimoneaux-lawson9238 Says:
Could you add an update to this subject since the election is so close
@Zylothical Says:
What a great conversation.
@dianebannard3527 Says:
Mr Eric Metaxis nailed it when he said: God reads your heart. If your intention and direction isn’t godly- but partly or wholly selfish ( ego) - you can’t hide that from God. He knows it. I learned that when I go to His throne in prayer, I bring my sin with me. Instead of avoiding him due to my sin. He accepts me as I am in my sinful state. But keep trying to do better. Satan messes my mind saying I’m too sinful to go to God ( for whatever). Excellent podcast. Too many Christians keep their mouths shut when they need to speak out against unrighteousness
@ArieOudenaarden Says:
According to the Dutch - Turkish writer Lale Gül, many christians are essentially 'secret atheïsts' !!! (In her book: I am free.) Dr. Mark A. Gabriel writes in: Islam and Terrorism (in German) on page 219 about A FALSE CHRISTIANITY for muslims, about confusion around Trinity and about closed church doors. Closed for muslims!!
@marciarohde3930 Says:
Absolutely Truth. Thank you for weighting your book we needed to hear that. Time to wake up 👆 AMERICA 🇺🇸 .
Look what's going on you would have to be blind not to see how bad AMERICA has tuned toward Evil 😈.
Antitrust . One World Government . TIME TO CHANGE IT
@maryhall1181 Says:
My vote will NOT count. It is nullified by the illegals voting, the joke is on me AND YOU. BUT, I AM voting.
@joannahanley6628 Says:
HALLELUJA!! My Favorite Two CHRISTIAN MEN!!….I Have Read ALL OF THEIR BOOKS !! Bonhoeffer Book was AWESOME!🙏🏻🔥❤️😀
@kurtkuhne1260 Says:
SEE- John Bunyans
"Pilgrims Progress"
@kurtkuhne1260 Says:
The entire journey is to get closer to God and His purposes thru Christ Jesus, His Words, teachings, Apostles writings and the entire Old Textament pointing to His coming as both the Messiah & the~
"Lamb of God Who takes away the sins of the world"
- as John the Baptist uttered upon seeing Jesus on the banks of the Jordan River to be Baptised to seriously encounter the Holy Spirit despite our human fraulty's to ever draw closer to all three as One for realize Jesus was the Creator God in the flesh = just as if He came only for you- for He did....seek Him while He may be found...!
@caseyjones4388 Says:
Awesome both of you gave a excellent discussion on truth and what it means for a Christian to speak it and stand up for it as a child of God's. This needed to be acknowledged and exposed about our so called Religious people. God bless you both and thank you
@kelvinripia1196 Says:
People of Yester-Year, Amongst Many, were very Wise!
I seem to Recognise Their Wisdom as I Climb Out of the Shit Hole that I Have Just Dug Myself.
History Ignored is History Repeated!
Julius Caesar said "Experience is the Teacher of All Things"!
God is Perfect!
@kelvinripia1196 Says:
To quote Napoleon Bonaparte "The World Suffers, Not because of the Violence of the Bad People, but because of the Silence of the Good"!
Abraham Lincoln said "It is a Sin to Stay Silent when it is Our Duty to Protest"!
Patrick Henry said " Our brethren are already in the Field. Why Stand we Idle? Is Life so Dear, so Sweet as to be Purchased of the Price of Chains and Slavery? Forbid It! God Almighty! I know Not what Course Others may take? But for Me! Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death"!
It seems I Echo what Mr Eric is Saying because I too Feel the Same. (Though I deliberately shortened some of these quotes)
Thank You Mr P. and Mr M. Great Show and God Bless!
@notheorytrue Says:
Ummm…..Eric, kind of important here. Beginning about 18:30. They’re not fascists and atheists, they’re Satanists led by the fallen ones. They know good from evil and choose evil, They don’t want power, they have it and it’s been handed down through generations. These events are prophecy coming true. You’re doing the whole show and your witness a great disservice by dismissing it and saying it is unguided with no purpose. It is the destruction of humanity, deception and leading as many astray as possible.
@billwallberg Says:
"Light and darkness" baby. Love you Eric. "The Lord bless and keep you"
@rogergleidt1567 Says:
Approximately 50% of church going Christians vote for politicians that institute the ungodly laws we should stand against. Our stand against unrighteous laws and policies would not be necessary if Christians voted Biblical principles.
@karenb2149 Says:
I hope you’re discussing the worship of Trump. He is NOT a Christian and you have all been fooled.
@Subdubz564 Says:
Matthew 24:35 says, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away"
@JMJT325 Says:
Their globalist ways lead to death. We must continue to live in Truth and Light which leads to Eternal Life.
@JeanneClay-sq3mn Says:
Jordan?…… slow down and REALLY listen to Eric??
He knows what he is talking about!
You may not “get” what
being born again means but HE possesses it!!
@tay_eternal Says:
finally, someone who can rival Dr. Peterson while "aiming up"
@geoffreymills9928 Says:
Christians anywhere need to be different as those around them !!
@kimkretzsinger5670 Says:
Eric you made great comebacks to many of Jordan’s questions. I pray he comes to Salvation with you after this interview 🙏🙏🙏✝️✝️✝️
@kimkretzsinger5670 Says:
satan is the ultimate counterfeit of God’s ways for us in every way. John 8:44 satan is the father of lies…he comes to steal, kill, and destroy. Look at what’s going in today’s world. God cannot be fooled! If you are not a born again Christian you will be separated from God in hell for Eternity. Either God is everything or He is nothing. Praying you ask Christ Jesus into your heart for Salvation to be with Him FOREVER in ETERNITY WITH HIM🙌🙌🙌
@kimkretzsinger5670 Says:
Listen to you both often! So excited to see this interview pop up! Can’t wait to hear it all! Thank you both for all you do🙏🙏🙏🙏
@CollinJohnston-ro7ew Says:
❤
@WeldorLife Says:
the guy jordan peterson is talking to is appearantly part of the problem: people who are suppose to know the scripture but are not even people who are in the Church to begin with so whose authority is it they are talking on the behalf of? ...Look... Most who think they represent God or are His Ambassadors are not and they keep talking about nothing that makes any difference.
@itisalsowrittenministry2197 Says:
Numbers says, because the sentence to an evil deed is not executed swiftly, therefore the hearts of men are given to evil.
@jewelshogg3065 Says:
It's a great podcast! I see and understand that this man is saying he was compelled to write it, being led by the spirit of YAHWAH! I liken it when paul wrote letters he would say when he was speaking in the writing and when YAHWAH was speaking! I see this in this expression of his letter to the church! I feel through this podcast a real honouring to Yahwah and a real love to the Western church in truth. The equilibrium of love and obedience. I personally believe it is a mystical encounter because it's hard to explain in this language of frequency, so to speak! I honour this man's obedience in caring for humanity. This is how I interpret the depth of this podcast of his writing! 🙏
@b-thebridge Says:
Salvation is by faith alone. We do works because we are saved and are grateful to the Lord Jesus for dying for my sin.
@bonniesammons2348 Says:
Love Eric Metaxes!
@joannefluet4315 Says:
Eric is an incredible MIND! Your Actions show and display your Faith, your Truths! Your Life is based on your Faith. You Practice what you Believe.
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