TL:DR chart at 8:13 shows all of them are approximately 4-5x slower than a RPi5
@haydarjohn Says:
i was wondering why milk v consumed more power then i realised that milk v comes overclocked.
@felixfujishiro2304 Says:
The big problem still seems to be the relatively low benchmark performance compared to ARM (RPi5). No doubt RiSC-V will close the gap over time, but for now it seems to be less a competitive product that would be used as a daily driver and more something for developers to tinker with.
@ThallesCampagnani Says:
Banana Pi F3 has several different Linux distributions. Maybe the crash was a software problem. You could try another distribution to figure out if really is a software problem, or a hardware problem.
Has ArchLinux, Ubuntu, Debian, Armbian, Fedora, etc.
Archlinux have the more recently kernel linux, so maybe they already solved some bugs.
@chromerims Says:
Fantastic video 👍
I hope there's eventually a popular board or device that sells 50k or 100k+ units. Would add momentum.
@rayrai982 Says:
What exactly guarantees that once RISC-V started dominating, RISC-V team won't attempt to impose royalties and licensing?
@cryptearth Says:
I really enjoy your RISC-V content - thank you much for put yourself through this torture
as the jupiter features an open pci-e slot I would love to see gpu tests to evaluate how far the graphics drivers has come - could this maybe an idea for an upcomming video? thanks for considering it
@vishnupriya3261 Says:
Sir I need a raspberry pi 4b /5 for my project. Could I borrow yours for some time?
@thanatosor Says:
The fact that most of RV SBC doesn't need cooling fan is pretty good.
@snikrepak Says:
just ordered my first riscV SBC! been using esp32's for a long time, so im super stoked to learn a new way to do things
@XTRLFX Says:
Note on the Jupiter Power consumption: That should take less power if not using the ATX power supply. You can power it through USB-C. I That should bring it down to where the other Spacemit based boards are.
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@ibrahimtouman2279 Says:
I am looking forward for a similar comparison of "ESWIN EIC7700X"-powered devices, namely 'Milk-V Megrez', 'PINE64 StarPro64', & 'SiFive HiFive Premier P550'.. I guess the 'DeepComputing DC-ROMA RISC-V AI PC Mainboard II' could be also added to the mix
@atommixz Says:
Hi. Thanks for the review. I have a suggestion to use RPi 5 as reference values on each screen.
@marksmithcollins Says:
The RISC5 ecosystem seems being chinese babywalker patronage fund
@chriholt Says:
Well done as always Chris! Pretty amazing that RISC-V boards have come so far that you can do a 5-board shootout!
@ps_3460 Says:
I just finished an AI CNN image recognition PhD paper between the Raspberry Pi 5 and the Orange Pi RV3 (with its two NPUs) And Rasberry pi still knocked it out of the park, even when the Orange Pi had. a faster SD card
@jc-0h Says:
It would be nice to see SoCs developed for the open-source market. Seeing what has been accomplished in the open microcontroller realm like the Arduino, imagine the possibilities of truly open SBC hardware. Even if specs were several generations behind commercial, people would find ingenious ways to keep that hardware relevant.
@cal2127 Says:
were you able to get hardware accelerated graphics working on the orangepi rv2? i havent had any luck so far.
@TheBodgybrothers Says:
Nothing like a risky groupie
@SajjadKabirJoy Says:
Thank you for making such a comprehensive and coherent video, as always! I ran the SilverBench and Gimp benchmarks on my Banana Pi BPI F3 unit, running Bianbu 2.2. Both tests completed, with SilverBench churning out P923, and GIMP's lava filter took just shy of 28 seconds. The only apparent difference in my tests was that I am running the new Bianbu "lite" desktop, which uses Labwc + LXQT, instead of Gnome. Maybe Gnome (or how it's configured on F3) is to blame here?
@liontuga155 Says:
A metric I’d love to see on your next video on RISC-V, or any SBC for that matter, is performance per watt, running an assortment of tests. In a chart with different boards, including ARM and x86. That way, I think, it would be easier to get an idea of the overall progress of the different technologies.
@Snablarns Says:
Looking at the GeekBench results, the X60 based boards get basically identical results.
The Milk-V Jupiter reports a clock speed of 1.60 GHz just like the other boards - shouldn't it be running at 1.80 GHz according to the comparison table in the beginning of the video?
@waveshareelectronics Says:
Thanks for testing！
@brianjuergensmeyer8809 Says:
I have both a VisionFive 2 and a DC-ROMA 2. Both are usable, but both are noticeably slower than my PineBook Pro. From my perspective, I didn't purchase the VisionFive2 or the DC-ROMA 2 with the intent of making them an actual daily-driving computing platform. I bought them primarily to learn the ISA and how things actually work at the CPU level on both (I hadn't done any assembler development since college, but am getting back into it now as a hobby). Even though the VisionFive 2 doesn't do that well at watching Youtube videos, both the VisionFive 2 and DC-ROMA 2 are competent little hacking machines.
@AndrewRoberts11 Says:
Pi stand for Python, at least in the Raspberry Pis they aspire to substitute for; so surely a few Python benchmarks would have been appropriate.
@shenidan2025 Says:
great video once again👍
@cobanzoso1472 Says:
RISC-V video !! :D Love
@CommieOriginale Says:
They must be open to succeed.
@schlickit628 Says:
You can’t even get an arm sbc that works and is open and isn’t a raspberry pi. Expecting to get a good riscv is far too much to get hopes up about
@lionwangsinovoip Says:
BPI-F3 also is 8GB RAM , it support 4GB/8GB
@HenryCavillage Says:
Hello, my best friend......
@Clark-Mills Says:
What a lot of work; *two* coffees (or more likely teas) for you. Thank you! :)
@rick-lj9pc Says:
I want to like RISC-V but it is a real uphill battle- If you need I/O pins save a ton of hassle and get a RP5 and enjoy a stable OS, and spend your project time making something that uses the I/O. If you don't need the I/O an intel N100/N150 will end up faster and somewhat cheaper as the price for them includes the NVME and possibly more and faster memory. Going with x86 also give you more OS options and very stable Linux versions!
If you want ultra low power and or cost- go with a pi zero. What is the RISC-V niche? If you want to play around with RISC-V assembly?
@mjbrenneman Says:
It would have been great to do benchmarks with an old laptop. I think a 10 year old Intel or AMD would have that same performance as these SBCs. That's a shame, but it shows how difficult it is to develop a new processor architecture. I'm optimistic with SBCs but until they get a unified architecture they will be relegated to industrial, phone/tablet and IoT devices.
@tonykeltsflorida Says:
Orange pi RV2 seems to be a good deal for the lower price. However, a lot of room for improvement for the RISC-V universe.
@josemanuelsenoransrodrigue9102 Says:
Fantastic video. Million thanks
@guilherme5094 Says:
👍Thanks!
@voidtoast4880 Says:
The VisionFive 2 is definitely not well supported in software, you need to rely on a community cobbled together distro on their forums to actually make all of the hardware work and updates can break it. What normal computer users think of as a computer aka the PC is a number of standards like UEFI/ACPI with hardware designed for those (x86 is irrelevant) and a RISC-V PC product does not exist on the market.
@eIektrinis Says:
I would like to see "performance per watt", same as they do it with new intel/amd laptops. Then we would see if there is any advantage in riscV.
@trevorberridge6079 Says:
I compared the RISC-V performances by scoring each board with 5 points for being the best in a test and 1 for being the worst in a test. I was going to score crashes as a zero, but changed my mind for two reasons: 1) the boards had actually attempted to run the software; 2) I wanted to be able to give a lower score to the Lichee for being the only one to fail to even install the required software. As a result the final positions for me were: 1) Milk-V Jupiter 11 points; 2) VisionFive 2 10 points; 3) Orange Pi RV2 10 points; 4) Banana Pi BPI-F3 8 points and finally Lichee Pi 3A 5 points. I should also point out that I placed the VisionFive 2 above the Orange Pi RV2 because while their performances even out overall the VisionFive 2 was the only one of the two to achieve a top score.
In conclusion, based on performance in these three tests, the Milk-V Jupiter, VisionFive 2 and Orange Pi RV2 are currently very closely matched with each having a turn as the best of the three in a given test. It will be good to see a repeat of this test when and if the Banana Pi and the Lichee resolve their software issues.
Well done again Chris for tracking what will become a very important development in computing in such meticulous detail.
@leskaighin8903 Says:
I gave up after six hours ... That is dedication. Thank you.
@hermanwooster8944 Says:
I shudder at the idea of MS attempting to build a RISC-V variant of Windows when they're still struggling to maintain ARM and x86.
@Duewester Says:
What would you recommend for using the risc v cores in the Raspberry Pi PICO as source?
@esra_erimez Says:
Ducks! 🦆🦆🦆
@schtive81 Says:
I know nothing about RiscV yet. But could Open Lara be used as a GPU test benchmark? Seems a little weird. But Open Lara can be pretty demanding and has some 'mordern-ish' effects. It seems like it can be run through a linux distro on RiscV, (I could be wrong). Phoronix Test Suite ? Is there an online GPU benchmark anywhere?
@IngwiePhoenix_nb Says:
My VF2 died because an external HDD enclosure I connected backfed too much power and eventually ended up frying it. So I haven't had the opportunity to play more with RISC-V again.
But it seems that the OS situation hasn't changed much. Whilst the JH7110 seems to be almost completely upstreamed, Imagination GPU drivers are still an absolute mess - what a shame... Let alone booting; the reason the updated OS didn't boot is quite likely due to a DTB issue. :/ And the crashing/resetting kinda makes me think "power". o.o
@ronyzmiri Says:
What is needed in my opinion is a compelete tutorial for new and perhaps older people who are curious but have no idea what is Pi compurers...
@johnhunt1725 Says:
Thank you Chris. I'm looking forward to the day you review a RISC-V SBC that doesn't get absolutely smoked by an ARM SBC at the same (or lower) price point, assuming that day actually ever comes. Cheers!
@DJgregBrown Says:
you play back is hardware decoders important so the is their GPUsv not their risc V cores.
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